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Here's what it actually does…
1. Codifies Jeff Sessions' "zero tolerance" directive until new immigration legislation is passed.
2. Limits the definition of family to parent-child pairs. Aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc. are excluded.
3. Puts families under Homeland Security custody during criminal, immigration cases. Previously, children and detained families had to be held in facilities contracted by the Department of Health and Human Services.
3c. Authorizes the military to build new prisons for migrant families.
3d. Allows all Federal departments to offer their buildings as prisons.
3e. Authorizes the DOJ to try to wriggle out of the Flores Agreement.
4. Orders parents to be prosecuted first in immigration courts

Text of EO: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/affording-congress-opportunity-address-family-separation/

That last one makes it nigh on impossible for families to regain custody of their children, whole thing could take years and cost a fortune. It's stupid and petulant. I cant build my wall so I will hurt people and make a money pit.

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Petulantly separating families and then saying it's the democrats fault for not letting him build his wall is the start of it. At some point this year people are going to walk into the oval office to find him stabbing Melania repeatedly and saying "STOP MAKING ME DO THIS".

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How long before one of these families is driven to commit some kind of 'terrorist' act?

You can expect it pretty much right after the first pedophilia reports.

That's already happened.

I hadn't seen the reports... Jesus.

https://www.gq.com/story/trump-on-immigrant-children

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A small sample of the abuses committed by officials includes:
    Denied detained children permission to stand or move freely for days and threatened children who stood up with transfer to solitary confinement in a small, freezing room

    Denied a pregnant minor medical attention when she reported pain, which preceded a stillbirth

    Subjected a 16-year-old girl to a search in which they “forcefully spread her legs and touched her private parts so hard that she screamed”

    Left a 4-pound premature baby and her minor mother in an overcrowded and dirty cell full of sick people, against medical advice

    Threw out a child’s birth certificate and threatened him with sexual abuse by an adult male detainee.

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How long before one of these families is driven to commit some kind of 'terrorist' act?

You can expect it pretty much right after the first pedophilia reports.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: June 19, 2018, 05:22:29 pm »
Could this be the straw that breaks the camels back? Surely among even the most hateful of the Republicans this is the line too far.

I heard  that bottlebrush Farage on LBC talking about it; shrugging his shoulders and saying, "welp it's not a hotel, it has to be bad to deter illegals". One step away from Vlad the Impaler, rows of dead to unnerve invading forces.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: June 19, 2018, 12:08:01 am »
I kind of support that idea. The more money he launches into outer space the less damage he can do at home.

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So...why is this post pinned?

My guess is pinned years ago and then forgotten.

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Trying to avoid posting in this thread because I don't want people to think I am Britain bashing. I wouldn't be surprised if the grand repeal bill allows abitrary changes of the law from now until Teresa May declares herself Lord Protector and  or one the three stooges (Boris/Mogg/Gove).

The negotiations have been incredibly frustrating. Or Just incredible in general, we can't trust a word out of Mays mouth. She has committed to the Republic  of Ireland and the EU that there will be no border in Northern Ireland. Committed to the DUP that there will be no regulatory divergence from the rest of the UK, in her own party she has committed to every variant of what the Brexit would be. She committed to the backstop to the EU and Ireland then rejected it saying it needs to be for a limited time (so she can just renege on it at her leisure)?
If we can't get a hard set in stone commitment on the border, its unlikely the negotiations will complete (WTO scenario).

So obviously she can't please everyone, for a while it looked like this wasn't just game playing, it was more a schizo monstrosity trying to negotiate internally and externally. But it looks like that was just some kind of tactic.
Then I saw this:
https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2018/0615/970823-tony-connelly-brexit/

So it looks like the UK went around back channels to member states in the EU to try and put pressure on the Republic to drop the border issue. No official response has been made yet, but I would hope that it will be in support of Ireland, that as a member state our interests will be supported and game playing roman court backstab politics by a nation that's planning to leave will be rejected.

The worst is, I see all this peevishness leading to the worst possible outcome. WTO is bad for the EU as well, but how can you negotiate an agreement with someone who consistently lies and tries to undermine the negotiation by playing games?

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Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Free Russian Orphans with Every Purchase
« on: June 15, 2018, 09:09:33 am »
So, speaking of work...

HR have rescheduled another meeting with me.  Given we've only arranged two meetings thus far, and both have had to be rescheduled (in each case adding an extra week into the process), that is quite impressive.

Oh well, at least this means I can have some beers and watch Egypt vs Uruguay tomorrow.

Which do you think will happen first the management meeting or the legal letter landing on their desk?

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Principia Discussion / Re: Adopt a sacred chaos
« on: June 14, 2018, 03:15:11 pm »
Where do I visit your nightclub?

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Isn't the clear answer to get some of those to come back, if they wanted to be here?

Sure you and Nigel had your reasons for falling out, conversely you are the two most stubborn people on the planet. Or Brenton, there isn't a bad bone in that lads body, I'm reading his book at the moment and its making me remember the energy and positivity Discordia had when we were really active.

Brenton's very first interaction with me, years and years ago when the first few intermittens were happening, was to hand me a really, really nasty slam on my writing.  Polite as hell, but polite the way a pile of rattlesnakes is polite...and it didn't get any better after that.  He may be a nice guy, but I have never seen it.  In fact, from my point of view, there aren't any GOOD bones in his body, either.  He sort of slithers all over the place.

As for Nigel, it's beyond "stubborn" or "angry" or even "hate".  It's just that 9 years of destructive conditioning was plenty, to be honest, and there is no remaining basis for anything resembling friendship or even civility.  Hasn't been any since 2010 if we're being honest about it.  Not to say that Nigel isn't smart, she taught me plenty...Not least of which, she taught me why abused people will keep forgiving their abuser, until one day they don't.  So it's not stubbornness that's the problem.

I'm all about being active, but I am not sure we could be active in exactly the same manner we were active in before.  After all, it was Nigel that slung the million ton ball of shit while I was trying to propose a new form for this board LAST time we talked about being active.

I used them as an example because the used to post here recently enough. That's not the point. I could list off people and there a probably good reasons not to reach out to any of them. My point was, if it's bothering you, pick someone and see can we can't kidnap them. If not there's no need.


I am unsure where this is coming from; I was just writing an excuse.  The entire point of that is to avoid having to actually justify myself.

What I'd really like to do is forget all about everything before July of 2017 (and especially before December of 2015) and just write some shit.  Something new.  If that helps board traffic, outstanding.  If not, I have managed to fill time between endless budget reforecast meetings.

Well that's something I can support, sure some people disappeared along the way but we got some nice rose bushes out the front of the pd forums.

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Isn't the clear answer to get some of those to come back, if they wanted to be here?

Sure you and Nigel had your reasons for falling out, conversely you are the two most stubborn people on the planet. Or Brenton, there isn't a bad bone in that lads body, I'm reading his book at the moment and its making me remember the energy and positivity Discordia had when we were really active.

Brenton's very first interaction with me, years and years ago when the first few intermittens were happening, was to hand me a really, really nasty slam on my writing.  Polite as hell, but polite the way a pile of rattlesnakes is polite...and it didn't get any better after that.  He may be a nice guy, but I have never seen it.  In fact, from my point of view, there aren't any GOOD bones in his body, either.  He sort of slithers all over the place.

As for Nigel, it's beyond "stubborn" or "angry" or even "hate".  It's just that 9 years of destructive conditioning was plenty, to be honest, and there is no remaining basis for anything resembling friendship or even civility.  Hasn't been any since 2010 if we're being honest about it.  Not to say that Nigel isn't smart, she taught me plenty...Not least of which, she taught me why abused people will keep forgiving their abuser, until one day they don't.  So it's not stubbornness that's the problem.

I'm all about being active, but I am not sure we could be active in exactly the same manner we were active in before.  After all, it was Nigel that slung the million ton ball of shit while I was trying to propose a new form for this board LAST time we talked about being active.

I used them as an example because the used to post here recently enough. That's not the point. I could list off people and there a probably good reasons not to reach out to any of them. My point was, if it's bothering you, pick someone and see can we can't kidnap them. If not there's no need.

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Isn't the clear answer to get some of those to come back, if they wanted to be here?

Sure you and Nigel had your reasons for falling out, conversely you are the two most stubborn people on the planet. Or Brenton, there isn't a bad bone in that lads body, I'm reading his book at the moment and its making me remember the energy and positivity Discordia had when we were really active.

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Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Free Russian Orphans with Every Purchase
« on: June 12, 2018, 11:56:22 pm »
Maybe one day, I don't speak Greek so it wouldn't be the easiest (that's not a disqualification though). There's not a hope of work being OK with that, I don't remember ever being busier, we're seriously considering supply as well as energy demand services, so there's a lot of research to be done on that.
I'd have to spend the time in Greece, service can be anywhere between 1-6 Months unless a war breaks out in which case you end up in active service. They don't provide even a basic income, just food and accommodation so that would leave herself with the mortgage unless I saved up enough to cover it for a long period.
They are basically an alien nation, getting kicked out wouldn't offset the fact that I have only a passing relationship with the country.  What really got my goat is; My mother and father broke up when I was six, my mother moved to another part of Greece and tried to start a new life, she didn't want to come back to Ireland, but as a woman they wouldn't let her work more then 20 hours a week, which made it impossible to support me, my brother and her. Hence why we left. The Country that offered no support to my family has the galling audacity to now think that I in some way owe them service.

I don't consider myself Greek, I'm Irish, if I was to have service to a nation it would be here, to ideologies of neutrality that I respect. I don't recognize them as having any authority over me. If that means never setting foot back there again, fine. Anyway, rant over.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: June 12, 2018, 12:28:22 pm »
To be fair Russia did the same in the UK, it seems to be coming back into fashion. On the bright side, it may not be possible to get conclusive answers as to what they actually agreed in those talks, their memory is built on shifting sands, and unless there was a stenographer in there its entirely possible either or both will claim those talks never happened if it doesn't look like its going well.

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