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« Reply #75 on: July 07, 2008, 07:56:20 AM » |
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I have no experience with Jazz guitar, but I was a horn player in a Jazz band. We used sheet music for our performances. Solos, of course were often improvised and not written out.
I think without understanding and being able to read the music, one might be prone to wandering into Jam Band territory, instead of playing actual Jazz.
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« Reply #76 on: July 07, 2008, 09:43:06 AM » |
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Don't worry, bull goose is making damn good and sure to chase me all over the forum and insult my compliments.
Bull goose?  I think you should intentionally misinterpret it as a compliment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XSM-73_Goose Spiffy-looking, but needs teh HIMEOBS. Edit: actually, it appears to be a "ground-launched long range decoy missile." 
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« Reply #77 on: July 07, 2008, 11:22:56 AM » |
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I CALL BULLGOOSE!!!
RWHN, someone had to do it.
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« Reply #78 on: July 07, 2008, 12:10:04 PM » |
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I SANK BULLGOOSE!!!
RWHN, someone had to do it.
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« Reply #79 on: July 08, 2008, 11:33:57 AM » |
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But I don't want to have another pointless music argument.
I will say but one thing: how the hell do you learn all these jazz songs without reading music? Ever hear of charts? Those are "reading" music, and they're the standard way to pass along the weird, complicated chords. Even the greats can't necessarily tell what that D-7(flat 9, sharp 11) chord is supposed to be without it being written down.
There. NO MAS.
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« Reply #80 on: August 13, 2008, 08:38:40 AM » |
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Since Discordianism seems to be just a fucked up version of Zen, I'll just answer with anything that pops to my mind at the moment. After saying "penis" I'll declare that MY belief system is The True Discordianism™.
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« Reply #81 on: August 13, 2008, 11:02:47 AM » |
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Since Discordianism seems to be just a fucked up version of Zen, I'll just answer with anything that pops to my mind at the moment. After saying "penis" I'll declare that MY belief system is The True Discordianism™.
aside from the entire premise of your post being wrong, good job.
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« Reply #82 on: August 13, 2008, 11:33:19 AM » |
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It's probably that statement on the Wiki article describing Discordianism as "Zen for roundeyes". I'd like to know who said that... they don't know much about Zen.
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Hoopla the Hooplarian King of the Booze DU HEXEN HASE!From the dawn of civilization, we have existed in order to undermine it. Our only enemy is the status quo. Our only friend is chaos. We have no government ties and unlimited resources. If something goes wrong, we are the cause. Every corner of the earth is under our surveillance. If you do it, we see it. Always. We believe the powerful should be made less powerful. We have heard the voice of society, begging us to destabilize it.
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« Reply #83 on: August 13, 2008, 01:19:25 PM » |
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It's probably that statement on the Wiki article describing Discordianism as "Zen for roundeyes". I'd like to know who said that... they don't know much about Zen.
Or they don't know much about Discordianism. I come to all of it from a background in Zen practice, so I agree a little and disagree a little. Zen has very very little to do with the BIP.
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« Reply #84 on: August 20, 2008, 11:30:14 AM » |
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To be quite honest, the BIP is only a minor point inside Discordia.
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« Reply #85 on: August 20, 2008, 12:12:35 PM » |
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The BiP seems like a possible application of Discordian ideas, as does the whole "Zen for Roundeyes', that is, there are Discordians that seem to interpret discordianism in both of those models. However, the heart of Discordianism, if anything, seems to be that people can interpret it as a "How to break your BiP" or "How to Build your GSP" or "Zen for Roundeyes" or Dada Philosophy, or a Mastermind group, or just a bunch of stoned, tripping people that are mentally jerking off to how non conformist they are.
All of those models seem to exist and there appears to be a good basis for each claim... depending on which 'writings' you choose to look at and which cabals you tend to grok. THAT, I think, may be what Discordianism IS about. Mal-2's essay on mastering nonsense and sense to expose them both as frauds, Omar's eloquent poetic statement about how humans come into existence and play with their reality, ordering things and disordering things until they die... they both seem to strike at Discordianism in practice, if not Discordianism in philosophy as well.
The Dadaist and Pinealist and the BiPer all are ordering and disordering the information around them to create their own view of Discordianism and probably their own view of reality.
I think.
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But the world is full of zanies and fools, who don't believe in sensible rules, and won't believe what sensible people say, and because these daft and dewy-eyed dopes keep building up impossible hopes, impossible things are happening everyday.
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« Reply #86 on: August 20, 2008, 12:16:33 PM » |
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The BiP seems like a possible application of Discordian ideas, as does the whole "Zen for Roundeyes', that is, there are Discordians that seem to interpret discordianism in both of those models. However, the heart of Discordianism, if anything, seems to be that people can interpret it as a "How to break your BiP" or "How to Build your GSP" or "Zen for Roundeyes" or Dada Philosophy, or a Mastermind group, or just a bunch of stoned, tripping people that are mentally jerking off to how non conformist they are.
All of those models seem to exist and there appears to be a good basis for each claim... depending on which 'writings' you choose to look at and which cabals you tend to grok. THAT, I think, may be what Discordianism IS about. Mal-2's essay on mastering nonsense and sense to expose them both as frauds, Omar's eloquent poetic statement about how humans come into existence and play with their reality, ordering things and disordering things until they die... they both seem to strike at Discordianism in practice, if not Discordianism in philosophy as well.
The Dadaist and Pinealist and the BiPer all are ordering and disordering the information around them to create their own view of Discordianism and probably their own view of reality.
I think.

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Hoopla the Hooplarian King of the Booze DU HEXEN HASE!From the dawn of civilization, we have existed in order to undermine it. Our only enemy is the status quo. Our only friend is chaos. We have no government ties and unlimited resources. If something goes wrong, we are the cause. Every corner of the earth is under our surveillance. If you do it, we see it. Always. We believe the powerful should be made less powerful. We have heard the voice of society, begging us to destabilize it.
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« Reply #87 on: August 20, 2008, 12:26:54 PM » |
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The BiP seems like a possible application of Discordian ideas, as does the whole "Zen for Roundeyes', that is, there are Discordians that seem to interpret discordianism in both of those models. However, the heart of Discordianism, if anything, seems to be that people can interpret it as a "How to break your BiP" or "How to Build your GSP" or "Zen for Roundeyes" or Dada Philosophy, or a Mastermind group, or just a bunch of stoned, tripping people that are mentally jerking off to how non conformist they are.
All of those models seem to exist and there appears to be a good basis for each claim... depending on which 'writings' you choose to look at and which cabals you tend to grok. THAT, I think, may be what Discordianism IS about. Mal-2's essay on mastering nonsense and sense to expose them both as frauds, Omar's eloquent poetic statement about how humans come into existence and play with their reality, ordering things and disordering things until they die... they both seem to strike at Discordianism in practice, if not Discordianism in philosophy as well.
The Dadaist and Pinealist and the BiPer all are ordering and disordering the information around them to create their own view of Discordianism and probably their own view of reality.
I think.
 Is that a picture of Kim 'cheese'? 
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« Reply #88 on: August 24, 2008, 07:14:32 PM » |
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shortest definition being a misnomer, the most concise definition I give people that they would have a hope of listening to and maybe trying to understand without immediately calling me a terrorist or cultist(you know the Indiana mindset Iason, though it's probably slightly more progressive in Indy) would be
absurdist(or surrealist) Zen.
if I try to be any more clear than that, people get confused and either stop listening or immediately think I'm creepy, as people generally fear what they don't understand.
I've been trying to work on KYFMS lately. Someone kept asking me questions and eventually I showed them my tattoo, and he said, "ohhh, you're a .. oh I get it, one of those pagan cults", and I had to work to keep his attention long enough to slightly remedy his ignorance. Now I'm tired of people thinking I'm crazy(in a negative connotation), so I avoid religious conversation
except at work the other day when someone had said the chickens I was cutting up died for us to live(cos I'm a veggie), so I said that they died for our sins, and then with each chicken I cut up I named what sin it died for(gluttony, jealousy, sloth, last weekend). Then I mentioned that King Kong also die for our sins and had to explain myself.
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« Reply #89 on: August 25, 2008, 03:43:59 PM » |
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People really don't understand Zen (Chan) Buddhism, do they?
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