Who is 'Us'?

[P3nT4gR4m]

My take puts the sheep and the shepherd in pretty uch the same basket as you Jenne but with regards the wolf I basically see him as a sheep that has evolved beyond the flock. The wolf is the free spirit who chooses to prey on the sheep because he has it in his power to do so and, therefore, who the hell is in a poisition to tell him not to?

There are varying degrees of preying and the smart wolf realises that it's not a good idea to overharvest but essentially I see myself, using them entirely as lulz-fodder, as being no different from someone who grinds them down as fertiliser. I have the compassion thing which makes me see them as kinda cute and lovable but I find it hard to condemn those who don't on any other grounds than practicality - a serial killer or mass murderer might serially kill or murder my mass.

[Jenne]

i dont think there is excess in deconstructing

the more you dismantle, the better you understand the components

the better you understand the components, the better you can build

That's the premise I usually go on, anyway.

Ok, good.

[LHX]

As long as we keep the original intent in sight, and don't lose ourselves amognst the pieces.

it seems to be worth the gamble

because the alternative doesnt seem to serve too well

[Jenne]

My take puts the sheep and the shepherd in pretty uch the same basket as you Jenne but with regards the wolf I basically see him as a sheep that has evolved beyond the flock. The wolf is the free spirit who chooses to prey on the sheep because he has it in his power to do so and, therefore, who the hell is in a poisition to tell him not to?

There are varying degrees of preying and the smart wolf realises that it's not a good idea to overharvest but essentially I see myself, using them entirely as lulz-fodder, as being no different from someone who grinds them down as fertiliser. I have the compassion thing which makes me see them as kinda cute and lovable but I find it hard to condemn those who don't on any other grounds than practicality - a serial killer or mass murderer might serially kill or murder my mass.

Ok, so a wolf is a sheep who cannibalized?

And somehow I KNEW you were on the side of the wolf.

Now, the wolf is no hero of the story...he's the antihero, really.

[Jenne]

As long as we keep the original intent in sight, and don't lose ourselves amognst the pieces.

it seems to be worth the gamble

because the alternative doesnt seem to serve too well

Srsly, don't see a problem with this group of people.

Too fucking focused for their own good.

[LHX]

Too fucking focused for their own good.

lol

can the act of focussing be too extreme?

pan in pan out

macro and micro

toggling perspectives and variety FTW

who am i who is us who are they ---> we somehow cover all angles

[Jenne]

Too fucking focused for their own good.

lol

can the act of focussing be too extreme?

pan in pan out

macro and micro

toggling perspectives and variety FTW

who am i who is us who are they ---> we somehow cover all angles

Of course it can!  *points to Felix's thread in this subforum* 

[DJRubberducky]

Well, over in the "Architecture" thread I pointed out that it's hard to do both micro and macro at the same time - if a scientist gets too fascinated with the stuff under his microscope, he may not notice that the far corner of the lab has caught fire.

I think you need a lab partner to help keep you sane.  Or at least man the extinguishers.

[B_M_W]

Yeah, I think in all this disscussion, its good to have someone that will help keep you grounded.

[Jenne]

Well, over in the "Architecture" thread I pointed out that it's hard to do both micro and macro at the same time - if a scientist gets too fascinated with the stuff under his microscope, he may not notice that the far corner of the lab has caught fire.

I think you need a lab partner to help keep you sane. Or at least man the extinguishers.

I agree.  Especially if you are that rather pedantic, focused person who doesn't notice shit around you while you work.

On the other hand, having too LITTLE focus can be a problem too.  I'd posit that's most peoples' problem in life, in general.  Or a lack of focus on what matters vs. piddly shit.

[LMNO]

Yeah, I think in all this disscussion, its good to have someone that will help keep you grounded.

Everyone needs the barstool, sooner or later.

[P3nT4gR4m]

My take puts the sheep and the shepherd in pretty uch the same basket as you Jenne but with regards the wolf I basically see him as a sheep that has evolved beyond the flock. The wolf is the free spirit who chooses to prey on the sheep because he has it in his power to do so and, therefore, who the hell is in a poisition to tell him not to?

There are varying degrees of preying and the smart wolf realises that it's not a good idea to overharvest but essentially I see myself, using them entirely as lulz-fodder, as being no different from someone who grinds them down as fertiliser. I have the compassion thing which makes me see them as kinda cute and lovable but I find it hard to condemn those who don't on any other grounds than practicality - a serial killer or mass murderer might serially kill or murder my mass.

Ok, so a wolf is a sheep who cannibalized?

And somehow I KNEW you were on the side of the wolf.

Now, the wolf is no hero of the story...he's the antihero, really.

There are less of the wolf than the sheep therefore I find the wolf more interesting. The wolf has a view of the sheep that the sheep do not have. He also remembers what it was like to be a sheep, so he has that perspective too. Being able to see twice the number of perspectives will always get my vote. My whole life is essentially approached from a perspective gaining point of view. Each new perspective makes me chuckle so I keep doing it.

[Jenne]

Yeah, I think in all this disscussion, its good to have someone that will help keep you grounded.

Everyone needs the barstool, sooner or later.

Now THAT should be a t-shirt.

[Jenne]

There are less of the wolf than the sheep therefore I find the wolf more interesting. The wolf has a view of the sheep that the sheep do not have. He also remembers what it was like to be a sheep, so he has that perspective too. Being able to see twice the number of perspectives will always get my vote. My whole life is essentially approached from a perspective gaining point of view. Each new perspective makes me chuckle so I keep doing it.

This makes me wonder:

Are we all our own wolves?

[P3nT4gR4m]

There are less of the wolf than the sheep therefore I find the wolf more interesting. The wolf has a view of the sheep that the sheep do not have. He also remembers what it was like to be a sheep, so he has that perspective too. Being able to see twice the number of perspectives will always get my vote. My whole life is essentially approached from a perspective gaining point of view. Each new perspective makes me chuckle so I keep doing it.

This makes me wonder:

Are we all our own wolves?

I was going to say something but LMNO would just call me the S-word.

(feels kinda small when he does that)