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Started by rygD, March 11, 2007, 05:10:47 PM

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March 11, 2007, 05:10:47 PM Last Edit: March 11, 2007, 05:13:20 PM by rygD
I think there are a few terms we need to get away from with all of this.  I will even go so far as to say that the Discordian Society as a whole needs to get away from them, except while referencing them in the cutesy fun little stories they were used in to get their point across.  At this point they seem to be hindering the advancement of the ideas they represented.  Evidence of this is that these terms changed through time.  Because the last version of "Principia Discordia"  included these terms, must we use them, rather than continue to help the ideas evolve?

With "Aneristic", unless it is a forgery, the first edition of PD never used this term, but did however have these ideas.  Then better terms for the ideas were created.  Why does it have to be stagnant now?  Let's find a term that doesn't limit the use of the term only to us.  I am not very up on what is currently going on over in the damned UK, but I know that, in America at least, the nation as a whole is seeing an ever increasing part of their life influenced by that which can be called by this name.  I was hoping to find a word already widely used that would fit.  I, at present, am unable to find one, and I am too lazy to keep thinking about it.  I will eventually find, or create, one if someone else is unable to first.

Now, on to the one that I see thrown around in all the wrong ways: "Greyface".  Alright, I understand there was a story that included it.  I realise that story may have seemed like more than a story to some.  The point of it was not to call everyone a greyface.  The idea that it was used to spread is what is important, not the fucking name.  Humans*, or at least english speaking ones, seem to like to make references to literature, which is wonderful.  What is saddening, though, is when you refuse to state that the map is not the territory.  Do I call everyone who takes the fall for someone else "Jesus" or "Christ" or those words/names in any other language?  How about someone who seems powerful, but has a weakness that is either not known or difficult to use against them being called "Achilles"?  These are stories that have a message, and the two remain seperate.  Why do so many of you insist on calling people, or groups "Greyface".  We have other words out there that describe these people better, and more accurately.  At those times where it is the most suitable term, which is not as often as some seem to believe, I understand using it, or, even better, using "Greyfaced" or maybe "Greyfacian", but get the fuck over our stories.  Be more original, I know you can do it.

I don't even want to get started on cabbage, so I will repeat that last sentence: "Be more original, I know you can do it".  If not, then you all don't belong in the Discordian Society.  I am sure there is some neopagan group out there that wants you to believe their stories are wholly real.
:rbtg:

Quote from: rygD on March 07, 2007, 02:53:03 PM
...nuke Iraq and give it to the Jews...

P3nT4gR4m

#1
March 11, 2007, 05:16:55 PM
Quote from: rygD on March 11, 2007, 05:10:47 PM

If not, then you all don't belong in the Discordian Society.


I'm just guessing that the irony of this closing remark was wasted on you?

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rygD

#2
March 11, 2007, 05:20:36 PM
I don't even mean it that seriously, I just get sick of seeing this shit sometimes.
:rbtg:

Quote from: rygD on March 07, 2007, 02:53:03 PM
...nuke Iraq and give it to the Jews...

Lies

#3
March 11, 2007, 11:20:17 PM
OMG it's a greyface disguised as a cabbage pretending to be a discordian!
- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!

Sir Perineal

#4
March 12, 2007, 02:48:17 AM
Quote from: Lysergic on March 11, 2007, 11:20:17 PM
OMG it's a greyface disguised as a cabbage pretending to be a discordian!

You forgot to call him aneristic  :mrgreen:
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~Concordian Commissar of the Academic Order of THE HEMLOCK FELLOWSHIP~

Sir Perineal

#5
March 12, 2007, 02:55:09 AM
Oh, and for the OP:

I kind of liked "aneristic," as used heavily in pages 00049-00051 in the PD.  That section was ment to be a parody of modern philosophy, which is ripe with made-up words that serve to inflate the egos of their speakers.

I kind of agree with you on the "Greyface" and "cabbage" thing.  You make a really good point about "Greyface," and with respect to "cabbage," I never really liked it anyway, not to mention that it doesn't seem to be that central to the PD anyway.
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~Concordian Commissar of the Academic Order of THE HEMLOCK FELLOWSHIP~

The Good Reverend Roger

#6
March 12, 2007, 03:00:09 AM
All of you fake Discordians get the FUCK out of my religion.

kthxbye.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Lies

#7
March 12, 2007, 08:13:18 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 12, 2007, 03:00:09 AM
All of you fake Discordians get the FUCK out of my religion.

kthxbye.
All of you fake Discordians get the FUCK out of MY religion.

kthxbye.
- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!

LMNO

#8
March 12, 2007, 01:17:44 PM
Ry, I'd be happy to give up "Aneristic", "Greyface" and "Cabbage", provided you give me terms for the Illusion that there is, and should be, order in the things we percieve; for the characteristic of someone who attempts to assert Order and Personal Morality upon others; and for unthinking, robotic, knee-jerk domesticated apes.

The Good Reverend Roger

#9
March 12, 2007, 05:06:10 PM
Quote from: Lysergic on March 12, 2007, 08:13:18 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 12, 2007, 03:00:09 AM
All of you fake Discordians get the FUCK out of my religion.

kthxbye.
All of you fake Discordians get the FUCK out of MY religion.

kthxbye.


What religion is that?  The First Church of Stoner-Hippie-Dumbshits?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#10
March 12, 2007, 05:06:35 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 12, 2007, 01:17:44 PM
Ry, I'd be happy to give up "Aneristic", "Greyface" and "Cabbage", provided you give me terms for the Illusion that there is, and should be, order in the things we percieve; for the characteristic of someone who attempts to assert Order and Personal Morality upon others; and for unthinking, robotic, knee-jerk domesticated apes.

I just use "fuckhead".
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Suu

#11
March 12, 2007, 05:24:54 PM
Quote from: Lysergic on March 12, 2007, 08:13:18 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 12, 2007, 03:00:09 AM
All of you fake Discordians get the FUCK out of my religion.

kthxbye.
All of you fake Discordians get the FUCK out of MY religion.

kthxbye.


Charming, to the last. *sidesteps for Rog to continue*
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Lies

#12
March 13, 2007, 03:48:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 12, 2007, 05:06:10 PM
Quote from: Lysergic on March 12, 2007, 08:13:18 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 12, 2007, 03:00:09 AM
All of you fake Discordians get the FUCK out of my religion.

kthxbye.
All of you fake Discordians get the FUCK out of MY religion.

kthxbye.


What religion is that?  The First Church of Stoner-Hippie-Dumbshits?
First Church of Zen Irony, actually, I think.
- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!

Heckler567

#13
March 13, 2007, 05:24:22 PM
discordian and society together, isnt that a paridox, societies there to bring order, stability and the social control that the man wants

discordia is the opposite

Cain

#14
March 13, 2007, 05:29:03 PM
What dictionary are YOU using?

"A society is a group of human beings distinguishable from other groups by mutual interests, characteristic relationships, shared institutions and a common culture. "
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