Yet another effort, gentleman, if we are to become Discordians!

[East Coast Hustle]

I find it quite interesting that in your writings actually everything and everybody is right, as long as they live up to the formula of chaos, which will come naturally. The teachings of Discordia tell us that the Grey man made the order, not that the order was a result of ordering the chaos. The order is an illusion that needs to be shown as an illusion by Discordians. Like the kings clothes, our dear people are walking around in their order. As long as everybody is telling each other how wonderful their orderly clothes are, there will be order. Then it doesn't matter if the clothes are covered with anarchy, liberal, or even Discordian prints, as long as people have their order in their mind, there is no fun for Eris.

HOW DOES THAT MENU TASTE?

Disorder is just as much an "illusion" as order is.

damn.

[LMNO]

Rat, I give my unofficial title of Resident Discordian Theologian to you.


Have fun with it, mind the spikey bits, and pay no attention to the smell.

[East Coast Hustle]

yeah, I like this guy. he's exactly what people who are hung up on the symbolism need.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Rat, I give my unofficial title of Resident Discordian Theologian to you.


Have fun with it, mind the spikey bits, and pay no attention to the smell.

[Darth Cupcake]

Rat, I officially salute you. Cheers, chap!

People with order in their mind tend to be great fun for Eris and all of her Discordian acolytes. If everyone had nothing but Chaos in the brain, then acts of Discord would provide no primer for thought.

That is pretty freaking important.

Life would become awfully fucking boring if all of a sudden everyone decided chaos was sweet. Without Greyfaces, as it were, how would we get our jollies? I don't even want to think about such a thing!

Besides, philosophical homogenization is never any fun, no matter how much you dig your philosophy.

[Cain]

Of course, even illusions can kill, if you believe in them enough.

And its fun to use them to mess with the heads of others.  But so long as you know they're not real, its all OK.

OFUK, I'm regressing. 

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Besides, philosophical homogenization is never any fun, no matter how much you dig your philosophy.

Indeed, all philosophies are just models, maps, metaphors of possible answers.... "Nonsense AS Salvation", makes a far different philosophical argument than "Nonsense IS Salvation". Nonsense, Discordianism, Chaos are potential ways to interpret our perceptions of reality. It doesn't make them the best way, nor necessarily the right way (or even a right way)... its just an option (one which most of us, here, seem to like).


I think...

[Cain]

Besides, philosophical homogenization is never any fun, no matter how much you dig your philosophy.

Indeed, all philosophies are just models, maps, metaphors of possible answers.... "Nonsense AS Salvation", makes a far different philosophical argument than "Nonsense IS Salvation". Nonsense, Discordianism, Chaos are potential ways to interpret our perceptions of reality. It doesn't make them the best way, nor necessarily the right way (or even a right way)... its just an option (one which most of us, here, seem to like).


I think...

NOOOOOOOOOOO!

ITS 100% CORRECT AND HAS BEEN SINCE THE DAWN OF TIME!  NOW YOU DIE, HERETIC!

[Darth Cupcake]

Besides, philosophical homogenization is never any fun, no matter how much you dig your philosophy.

Indeed, all philosophies are just models, maps, metaphors of possible answers.... "Nonsense AS Salvation", makes a far different philosophical argument than "Nonsense IS Salvation". Nonsense, Discordianism, Chaos are potential ways to interpret our perceptions of reality. It doesn't make them the best way, nor necessarily the right way (or even a right way)... its just an option (one which most of us, here, seem to like).


I think...

This post makes me happy.

[Triple Zero]

The teachings of Discordia tell us that the Grey man made the order, not that the order was a result of ordering the chaos. The order is an illusion that needs to be shown as an illusion by Discordians.

The teachings of Discordia tell us that we shouldn't believe the teachings of Discordia. However, if we were to examine the PD as useful, then consider the following:

1. I don't think Grey man made the Order. From my reading of the PD, the Greyfaced Hunchbrain looked around, saw order and decided that the Whole Universe was ordered. He didn't invent, create or otherwise make order... he simply saw order and ignored chaos (something that some Discordians do in reverse).

B. Order and Chaos can be described as two sides of the Sacred Chao, existing in a constant balance of "active wobbling". That is, an act of discord, will be balanced by an act of order, while an act of order will be balanced by an act of chaos. If order is not balanced, or if chaos is not balanced then the Chao tips and tipping a Chao isn't nearly as fun as rednecks make it out to be.

(snip)

can i just be slightly anal and point out:

chaos = order + disorder

you are confusing chaos with disorder. it's a manner of terminology, not more. but it helps. at least for keeping my head a bit straight in this.

chaos = order + disorder.

order and disorder are both sides of the same coin, the sacred chao, which is (defined somewhere, jokingly as) "one unit of chaos".

otherwise i agree with what you just said it's just that things get hopelessly muddled if we start thinking out from different ideas of words, if you get my point (and that's sometimes already hard enough, not being a native speaker, versus some of the cunning linguists on this board)

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

can i just be slightly anal and point out:

chaos = order + disorder

you are confusing chaos with disorder. it's a manner of terminology, not more. but it helps. at least for keeping my head a bit straight in this.

chaos = order + disorder.

order and disorder are both sides of the same coin, the sacred chao, which is (defined somewhere, jokingly as) "one unit of chaos".

otherwise i agree with what you just said it's just that things get hopelessly muddled if we start thinking out from different ideas of words, if you get my point (and that's sometimes already hard enough, not being a native speaker, versus some of the cunning linguists on this board)

If it works for you... SINK IT!!!!

[Triple Zero]

i never actually really "got" the "SINK" thing from the PD, btw. care to explain a little?

[Darth Cupcake]

i never actually really "got" the "SINK" thing from the PD, btw. care to explain a little?

I don't know if it's really anything to "get."

It's just fun to throw stuff in the water and say it's something else. I like to go down to the beach near my mum's house, walk out on the jetty with a bunch of rocks, and throw them in the water when I'm pissed off. (Even if I throw terribly.)

Example: "I SANK MY SENIOR THESIS!" or "I SANK MY EX-BOYFRIEND!" or "I SANK US FOREIGN POLICY!"

Etc. Sink whatever as needed.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

i never actually really "got" the "SINK" thing from the PD, btw. care to explain a little?

The 'Sink' you talk about is not the 'Sink' you play!!!

[Darth Cupcake]

i never actually really "got" the "SINK" thing from the PD, btw. care to explain a little?

The 'Sink' you talk about is not the 'Sink' you play!!!

Then I either talk too much or play too little...

-DC
Suspects both