Does the BIP actually change who we *are*?

[hunter s.durden]

Good hospital food? Where do you live, Hollywood?

I wouldn't be quick to jump on saying that no drug relates to schizo, because there is a wide variety of schizo symptoms and a wide variety of drug reaction. I'm sure sometimes they can be similar, especially in the disassociative family.

[BootyBay]

I really envy schizophrenics.

Ty! 

[BootyBay]

Good hospital food? Where do you live, Hollywood?

I wouldn't be quick to jump on saying that no drug relates to schizo, because there is a wide variety of schizo symptoms and a wide variety of drug reaction. I'm sure sometimes they can be similar, especially in the disassociative family.

Uhh... nope.  I've taken ketamine and DXM and DXM is probably the closest but still.. dreams are where it's at.

Hospital food is good if you're at an acute care clinic (not the state hosp. where it's basically the same as what prisoners get).

[hunter s.durden]

Uhhh....What I'm saying is you are one man.

You don't know how every schizo feels, or how every drug user feel.

[BootyBay]

I suppose that amphetamine psychosis is a lot like it (never had that myself).  I was trying to say my own experiences are more like dreams than substances.  I can't really think of any drug that comes close to how unraveled my reality gets (but that's just me).

[BootyBay]

as we are on the subject: http://www.geocities.com/theschizophreniamyth/

Lots of good stuff on the net on sz.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I really envy schizophrenics.

0_o

No...no you don't.

I was going to say that.

as we are on the subject: http://www.geocities.com/theschizophreniamyth/

I'm sorry, it may be an interesting take on the subject, but "some lady with a Geocities page and an apparent inability to cite her sources" is a little hard to swallow when she completely redefines schizophrenia according to her personal agenda, without even a nod to scholarly protocol (Like, well, citing her sources...) AND presents her perspective as fact rather than opinion.

My credentials are my experiences, along with my unwavering belief in the value of faith, honesty and personal integrity.

Well, good for you, lady. And congratulations for picking up the "my disorder isn't a disorder" torch from the ADHD crew... way to spread the credibility.

[Cain]

Faith, honesty and personal integrity are all nice and good, but faith, honesty, personal integrity and a wealth of raw data trumps it every time.

[hunter s.durden]

I have done extensive research on the subject, the biggest being "having" schizophrenia.

I like her take on it, so take that for what it's worth.

[BootyBay]

hunter.. Have you seen the WHO data on schizo?  Recovery rates for 3rd world countries that is (it's 60-70% over a lifetime in those places).

[hunter s.durden]

OK.

Go on, I'm not seeing why you asked me that.

[BootyBay]

I asked you that because I assumed you're interested in knowing less well-known facts about schizophrenia judging by your interest in the link.

[hunter s.durden]

Ah.

I am interested.

Psychology, mainly Abnormal, interests me greatly. It seems most people on this sight have little specialties (Cain knows politics, LMNO knows music), and I'd say psychology is mine.

[BootyBay]

Cool.

I dunno..  maybe you'd like R.D. Laing's work (I think a lot of it has been discredited but it's still interesting).

There's a site called the society for Laingian studies.  They used to have a forum, too, but I'm not sure if they do anymore.

http://laingsociety.org/

Enjoy.

[LMNO]

Actually, I would like some hard data about recovery rates for schizo and bi-polar.  Especially claims of "natural" (non-medicated) recovery.

I have my reasons.