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Re: Shortest Definition
« Reply #75 on: July 07, 2008, 04:56:20 pm »
I have no experience with Jazz guitar, but I was a horn player in a Jazz band.  We used sheet music for our performances.  Solos, of course were often improvised and not written out. 

I think without understanding and being able to read the music, one might be prone to wandering into Jam Band territory, instead of playing actual Jazz. 
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Re: Shortest Definition
« Reply #76 on: July 07, 2008, 06:43:06 pm »
Don't worry, bull goose is making damn good and sure to chase me all over the forum and insult my compliments.

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Re: Shortest Definition
« Reply #77 on: July 07, 2008, 08:22:56 pm »
I CALL BULLGOOSE!!!

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« Reply #78 on: July 07, 2008, 09:10:04 pm »
I SANK BULLGOOSE!!!

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Re: Shortest Definition
« Reply #79 on: July 08, 2008, 08:33:57 pm »
But I don't want to have another pointless music argument.

I will say but one thing: how the hell do you learn all these jazz songs without reading music? Ever hear of charts? Those are "reading" music, and they're the standard way to pass along the weird, complicated chords. Even the greats can't necessarily tell what that D-7(flat 9, sharp 11) chord is supposed to be without it being written down.

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Re: Shortest Definition
« Reply #80 on: August 13, 2008, 05:38:40 pm »
Since Discordianism seems to be just a fucked up version of Zen, I'll just answer with anything that pops to my mind at the moment. After saying "penis" I'll declare that MY belief system is The True Discordianism™.
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Re: Shortest Definition
« Reply #81 on: August 13, 2008, 08:02:47 pm »
Since Discordianism seems to be just a fucked up version of Zen, I'll just answer with anything that pops to my mind at the moment. After saying "penis" I'll declare that MY belief system is The True Discordianism™.

aside from the entire premise of your post being wrong, good job.
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Re: Shortest Definition
« Reply #82 on: August 13, 2008, 08:33:19 pm »
It's probably that statement on the Wiki article describing Discordianism as "Zen for roundeyes".  I'd like to know who said that... they don't know much about Zen.
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Re: Shortest Definition
« Reply #83 on: August 13, 2008, 10:19:25 pm »
It's probably that statement on the Wiki article describing Discordianism as "Zen for roundeyes".  I'd like to know who said that... they don't know much about Zen.

Or they don't know much about Discordianism.

I come to all of it from a background in Zen practice, so I agree a little and disagree a little.  Zen has very very little to do with the BIP.

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Re: Shortest Definition
« Reply #84 on: August 20, 2008, 08:30:14 pm »
To be quite honest, the BIP is only a minor point inside Discordia.

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« Reply #85 on: August 20, 2008, 09:12:35 pm »
The BiP seems like a possible application of Discordian ideas, as does the whole "Zen for Roundeyes', that is, there are Discordians that seem to interpret discordianism in both of those models. However, the heart of Discordianism, if anything, seems to be that people can interpret it as a "How to break your BiP" or "How to Build your GSP" or "Zen for Roundeyes" or Dada Philosophy, or a Mastermind group, or just a bunch of stoned, tripping people that are mentally jerking off to how non conformist they are.

All of those models seem to exist and there appears to be a good basis for each claim... depending on which 'writings' you choose to look at and which cabals you tend to grok. THAT, I think, may be what Discordianism IS about. Mal-2's essay on mastering nonsense and sense to expose them both as frauds, Omar's eloquent poetic statement about how humans come into existence and play with their reality, ordering things and disordering things until they die... they both seem to strike at Discordianism in practice, if not Discordianism in philosophy as well.

The Dadaist and Pinealist and the BiPer all are ordering and disordering the information around them to create their own view of Discordianism and probably their own view of reality.

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Re: Shortest Definition
« Reply #86 on: August 20, 2008, 09:16:33 pm »
The BiP seems like a possible application of Discordian ideas, as does the whole "Zen for Roundeyes', that is, there are Discordians that seem to interpret discordianism in both of those models. However, the heart of Discordianism, if anything, seems to be that people can interpret it as a "How to break your BiP" or "How to Build your GSP" or "Zen for Roundeyes" or Dada Philosophy, or a Mastermind group, or just a bunch of stoned, tripping people that are mentally jerking off to how non conformist they are.

All of those models seem to exist and there appears to be a good basis for each claim... depending on which 'writings' you choose to look at and which cabals you tend to grok. THAT, I think, may be what Discordianism IS about. Mal-2's essay on mastering nonsense and sense to expose them both as frauds, Omar's eloquent poetic statement about how humans come into existence and play with their reality, ordering things and disordering things until they die... they both seem to strike at Discordianism in practice, if not Discordianism in philosophy as well.

The Dadaist and Pinealist and the BiPer all are ordering and disordering the information around them to create their own view of Discordianism and probably their own view of reality.

I think.



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Re: Shortest Definition
« Reply #87 on: August 20, 2008, 09:26:54 pm »
The BiP seems like a possible application of Discordian ideas, as does the whole "Zen for Roundeyes', that is, there are Discordians that seem to interpret discordianism in both of those models. However, the heart of Discordianism, if anything, seems to be that people can interpret it as a "How to break your BiP" or "How to Build your GSP" or "Zen for Roundeyes" or Dada Philosophy, or a Mastermind group, or just a bunch of stoned, tripping people that are mentally jerking off to how non conformist they are.

All of those models seem to exist and there appears to be a good basis for each claim... depending on which 'writings' you choose to look at and which cabals you tend to grok. THAT, I think, may be what Discordianism IS about. Mal-2's essay on mastering nonsense and sense to expose them both as frauds, Omar's eloquent poetic statement about how humans come into existence and play with their reality, ordering things and disordering things until they die... they both seem to strike at Discordianism in practice, if not Discordianism in philosophy as well.

The Dadaist and Pinealist and the BiPer all are ordering and disordering the information around them to create their own view of Discordianism and probably their own view of reality.

I think.





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Re: Shortest Definition
« Reply #88 on: August 25, 2008, 04:14:32 am »
shortest definition being a misnomer, the most concise definition I give people that they would have a hope of listening to and maybe trying to understand without immediately calling me a terrorist or cultist(you know the Indiana mindset Iason, though it's probably slightly more progressive in Indy) would be

absurdist(or surrealist) Zen.



if I try to be any more clear than that, people get confused and either stop listening or immediately think I'm creepy, as people generally fear what they don't understand.


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except at work the other day when someone had said the chickens I was cutting up died for us to live(cos I'm a veggie), so I said that they died for our sins, and then with each chicken I cut up I named what sin it died for(gluttony, jealousy, sloth, last weekend). Then I mentioned that King Kong also die for our sins and had to explain myself.
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Re: Shortest Definition
« Reply #89 on: August 26, 2008, 12:43:59 am »


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