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Started by Arafelis, June 10, 2009, 07:01:40 PM

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Cain

It was too outlandish to fit in the emote box.

Jenne

Quote from: Arafelis on June 10, 2009, 08:52:15 PM
I'd have a really hard time being convinced that a project named "Lollercaust" is worth contributing to.  =P


Judging/book/cover.

Damn but you strongly resemble the "lurk moar" meme here.

Lollercaust is actually a genius few can figure out let alone be arsed to do so.  It's the hook that will get the worm, it's a worthy enough project that only the worthy will even ATTEMPT. 

Humor is an artform that is truly difficult to master for optimum gain and maximum effect.

So, I can see, from your past "mah shit don't stink" baditude that you wouldn't get it.

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It's okay Jenne, a lot of people agree with him and also have a really hard time being convinced that his contributions to Lollercaust would be worth it.
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Arafelis

Quote from: Jenne on June 24, 2009, 06:13:05 AM
Judging/book/cover.

I've always felt like that was a really silly criticism.

When you're in a bookstore, do you read every book in there to decide which ones are worth reading?  I find that unlikely.  Cain might.

Most folks, however, make judgments about what they're interested in spending time on based on the project's presentation.  Title, cover, blurb.  Sometimes excerpts or comments from friends.

Ignoring your reader's impressions until you decide to insult them for those impressions is ridiculous.  Maybe if the quality of product being produced here were up in the ranks with Joyce and Pynchon, I'd be less critical of the habit... but hitherby dragons has a higher average quality and almost as much diversity.

QuoteLollercaust is actually a genius few can figure out let alone be arsed to do so.

Sounds like the teleporter I didn't invent.

"This thing, which doesn't exist, is genius!  If only somebody would just make it!"

I've read the submissions on the BIP wiki.  Just curious -- how many of those made you laugh, like, out loud? 

If you want others to laugh, try laughing yourself first.

QuoteIt's the hook that will get the worm, it's a worthy enough project that only the worthy will even ATTEMPT. 

I've never shied away from being unworthy before.  Besides, nobody here seems interested in my writing.  I cracked myself up with "Dear Mr. Jones," but the only other person here who laughed was TGRR -- and who can tell where that was aimed?
"OTOH, I shook up your head...I must be doing something right.What's wrong with schisms?  Malaclypse the younger DID say "Discordians need to DISORGANIZE."  If my babbling causes a few sparks, well hell...it beats having us backslide into our own little greyness." - The Good Reverend Roger


Arafelis

Quote from: Erin Gardien on June 24, 2009, 10:24:47 AM
Quote from: Arafelis on June 24, 2009, 10:21:14 AM
bullshit

Get hit by a train already.

I never really expected Madonna to be so judgmental.  She always seemed so nice, on stage.
"OTOH, I shook up your head...I must be doing something right.What's wrong with schisms?  Malaclypse the younger DID say "Discordians need to DISORGANIZE."  If my babbling causes a few sparks, well hell...it beats having us backslide into our own little greyness." - The Good Reverend Roger


LMNO

Quote from: Arafelis on June 24, 2009, 10:21:14 AM

I've read the submissions on the BIP wiki.  Just curious -- how many of those made you laugh, like, out loud? 


See, now I know you're being deliberately obtuse, because we've explained this before. 

And it comes off making you look like a total ass.




Well, back to ignoring you!

Arafelis

Quote from: LMNO on June 24, 2009, 01:41:26 PM
Well, back to ignoring you!

I've been told so many times I'm being ignored, it's in danger of losing all meaning to me.

Still, this one I'm a bit perplexed by.  You complain about submissions that don't get a chuckle, yet take pride that the submissions recorded on BIPWiki are no better?

It's almost enough to make one suspect you saw the phrase "BIP" and replied without foraging for even an inkling of context.

Ah well.  An obtuse ass I am doomed to be.
"OTOH, I shook up your head...I must be doing something right.What's wrong with schisms?  Malaclypse the younger DID say "Discordians need to DISORGANIZE."  If my babbling causes a few sparks, well hell...it beats having us backslide into our own little greyness." - The Good Reverend Roger

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Quote from: Arafelis on June 24, 2009, 10:21:14 AM
Quote from: Jenne on June 24, 2009, 06:13:05 AM
Judging/book/cover.

semantics ... semantics ... semantics

QuoteLollercaust is actually a genius few can figure out let alone be arsed to do so.

I'm not funny

QuoteIt's the hook that will get the worm, it's a worthy enough project that only the worthy will even ATTEMPT. 

laem fucking comeback

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Quote from: Arafelis on June 24, 2009, 10:21:14 AM
Quote from: Jenne on June 24, 2009, 06:13:05 AM
Judging/book/cover.

I've always felt like that was a really silly criticism.

When you're in a bookstore, do you read every book in there to decide which ones are worth reading?  I find that unlikely.  Cain might.

Most folks, however, make judgments about what they're interested in spending time on based on the project's presentation.  Title, cover, blurb.  Sometimes excerpts or comments from friends.

Most people buy books based on reviews or recommendations, not blurbs, titles or covers.

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Ignoring your reader's impressions until you decide to insult them for those impressions is ridiculous.  Maybe if the quality of product being produced here were up in the ranks with Joyce and Pynchon, I'd be less critical of the habit... but hitherby dragons has a higher average quality and almost as much diversity.

Irrelevant.

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QuoteLollercaust is actually a genius few can figure out let alone be arsed to do so.

Sounds like the teleporter I didn't invent.

"This thing, which doesn't exist, is genius!  If only somebody would just make it!"

The title exists. She's talking about the title being funny, because of its multiple tiers of puns. I don't happen to like puns, but so far the people who do seem to think it's funny.

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I've read the submissions on the BIP wiki.  Just curious -- how many of those made you laugh, like, out loud?  

If you want others to laugh, try laughing yourself first.

You really didn't find the Lollercaust submissions funny? Damn, I guess my sense of humor isn't as sophisticated as yours.

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QuoteIt's the hook that will get the worm, it's a worthy enough project that only the worthy will even ATTEMPT.  

I've never shied away from being unworthy before.  Besides, nobody here seems interested in my writing.  I cracked myself up with "Dear Mr. Jones," but the only other person here who laughed was TGRR -- and who can tell where that was aimed?

Possibly because you're not as literarily high above everyone as you like to think you are. Possibly, even, because you are not a very good writer.

You wrote one thing I liked. I don't remember it, but I remember liking it.
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Cain

Quote from: Arafelis on June 24, 2009, 10:21:14 AM
When you're in a bookstore, do you read every book in there to decide which ones are worth reading?  I find that unlikely.  Cain might.

I rely on the good taste and judgement of my friends, authors whose other work I previously enjoyed, or steal it off the internet.

Just like everyone else.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Cain on June 24, 2009, 07:07:04 PM
Quote from: Arafelis on June 24, 2009, 10:21:14 AM
When you're in a bookstore, do you read every book in there to decide which ones are worth reading?  I find that unlikely.  Cain might.

I rely on the good taste and judgement of my friends, authors whose other work I previously enjoyed, or steal it off the internet.

Just like everyone else.

I worked in a bookstore for years, and yeah. Pretty much no one wanders in and just buys random books because they like the cover. There's a completely valid reason for that saying.

Cover art is important for selling some kinds of books; anything that might get endcapped will sell better if it has a good cover. Most books never get endcapped. Most books sell because the buyer came in looking for them.

Look at the phenomenal success of certain recent series books which have dispensed with the pretension of cover art entirely.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


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I base which books I read off of the cover and how easy it it to use the pages as rolling paper.
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Regarding the title "Lollecaust" --

Horrormirth, a form of gallows humor, is enjoyable to many of the people who post here.

If you don't enjoy it, that's okay - you're probably not the target audience. People who get offended by a reference to the Holocaust probably won't get many of our jokes anyway. I don't think any of us are trying to produce something for the NY Times bestseller list, nor is a work like Lollercaust intended for the widest possible audience.

This is all kind of silly though because we're talking about an unfinished work which nobody, at the moment, is working on.  :p