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The Cheeseburger Experiment

Started by Mesozoic Mister Nigel, October 02, 2009, 09:37:17 PM

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Quote from: LMNO on October 05, 2009, 03:01:56 PM
What is "proper" red meat?

Red meat that hasn't been injected with soy and fillers?
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Quote from: Triple Zero on October 05, 2009, 02:59:30 PM

but it's burgers?? are burgers in the US actually that good they remind people of red meat? I mean, it's minced meat with spices right? (and yes minced meat is red meat, but not real proper red meat, usually)

hotdogs are worse, though.

Spices?  Maybe.  Nothing thrilling.

LMNO

Usually salt, sometimes pepper.

So yeah, spices.



Sir Squid Diddimus

Quote from: Cramulus on October 05, 2009, 02:56:19 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 05, 2009, 02:28:45 PM
Quote from: Squid on October 05, 2009, 02:25:00 PM
I'm gonna go with more kitty-like turds.
Kinda small, so you don't really feel emptied.

:lulz:  Now I'm curious about what it's gonna do to your bowels!  :lulz:

Please inform us (or at least pm me if no one else wants to hear)

I'll be posting poop updates on my blog. :)


1. yes please

2. please call this section "The Poop Log"

3.pics

:lulz: i almost peed!!  :lulz:


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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: LMNO on October 05, 2009, 02:40:21 PM
What about your mind?

I also predict your mentality will be altered in some way.

It will definitely be altered in that I will not especially look forward to meal times. It's kind of like eating kibble.

FWIW, the Burger Kings in the US don't use rainforest meat, they use domestic meat. They also have a cage-free policy for their eggs and pork sources. Not saying it's a great company, just sayin'.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Cramulus on October 05, 2009, 02:56:19 PM
Quote from: Nigel on October 05, 2009, 02:28:45 PM
Quote from: Squid on October 05, 2009, 02:25:00 PM
I'm gonna go with more kitty-like turds.
Kinda small, so you don't really feel emptied.

:lulz:  Now I'm curious about what it's gonna do to your bowels!  :lulz:

Please inform us (or at least pm me if no one else wants to hear)

I'll be posting poop updates on my blog. :)


1. yes please

2. please call this section "The Poop Log"

3. pics

:lulz:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Khara on October 05, 2009, 03:10:17 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 05, 2009, 02:59:30 PM
but it's burgers?? are burgers in the US actually that good they remind people of red meat? I mean, it's minced meat with spices right? (and yes minced meat is red meat, but not real proper red meat, usually)

hotdogs are worse, though.

If the burger comes off my grill you know beyond a doubt you are eating red meat.  If it is from some fast food place..... Eh well.... That is up for debate.  The only fast food I eat is McDonald's french fries and that is maybe a couple times a year.  It's over priced and greasy.  We do pizza or taco hell as our fast food. 

Hotdogs are sacred in my house.  My children would freak if they ever opened the fridge and found no hotdogs.


We eat a lot of hot dogs, too... and those things really are questionable. Dear god. Assholes and armpits, baby. Assholes and armpits. Sometimes we eat them cold right out of the fridge, like a soft meat-stick.

The poor maligned BK cheeseburger is actually nowhere near as awful as most people assume. The meat is just ground beef... there's nothing in it, no preservatives, no seasonings, it's just cooked to holy hell. The cheese is your basic processed American slice. The bun is the worst part, but no worse than any .99 sack of white buns from the grocery store. Nutritionally, other than the lack of fiber, it's surprisingly adequate. I'm allowing myself to add unlimited condiments, including typical burger vegetables, so my vitamin C won't be lacking. I'm getting plenty of protein and amino acids, and even calcium from the cheese. Which I looked up, and was surprised to find is actual American cheese, not that oil-based "singles" crap.

I am very much enjoying the reactions to the fact that I'm eating cheeseburgers, though. It's very revealing, how intense the mythology is around them as the ultimate junk food. There is a lot of urban legend surrounding them... it's "common knowledge" that they're really fatty, that the meat is filled with preservatives, that it's mostly soy filler, that there's so much sodium in them that you'll go into renal failure if you eat them regularly... none of these things are true, at least not of the BK ones and probably not at the majority of fast-food places. Of course, there's also a weird ingrained belief in Americans that beef is bad for you, and that chicken is good for you. It's very odd, and pretty much nonsensical.

I've been a food experimenter my whole life... I just don't usually tell you guys when I'm doing it. :) Once a year or so I go on a raw food diet, which pisses my best friend off no end because I eat a lot of raw beef and bison and she's convinced I'm going to get worms or e. coli. Once I went on a month-long diet of tinned fish, pickles, and candy, just to see what would happen. (What happens isn't good.) I have a reputation of being able to digest anything, and I view questionable food as a personal challenge. Every once in a while I'll eat something questionable and it will give me a touch of the trots, but it happens so rarely that overall I consider my dietary choices to have done a good job of making me stronger.

When I'm done with this I'll probably do a few weeks of raw food, just to reset my system.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


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Random fun fact I thought I'd share because it came up in discussion recently

One of my Dad's friends does agricultural machinery maintainence. Turns out, because of the massively bad reputation that McDonalds burgers were getting for quality in the UK, the corporation now only accepts the best available domestic beef for their burgers, as well as cutting down massively on additives. And the farmers love them for it, because they are getting a lot more now in total if they can meet the stringent guidelines that McDonalds expects from its suppliers.

Obviously, I don't know how accurate this is, because I haven't bothered to search out any additional evidence, but I'm prepared to believe the guy I know. I've got no idea what the difference is in other countries, though. Pretty funny if the face of the American burger actually produces better burgers over here than in the US.  :lol:
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

McDonald's here has some kind of fancy 1/3 lb Angus burger now, which I find funny. I don't know why. It's like, they're trying to do upscale fast food.

I have a soft spot for McDonald's ever since they refused to use GMO potatoes and kicked a hole in Monsanto, which had spent years and god knows how many millions developing the potato. Every other major chain had to follow suit, or they'd look bad, and Monsanto had to abandon their Newleaf potato entirely.

:lulz:

I'd go buy an Angus cheeseburger, but their buns really are gross. Maybe they put it on some kind of premium bun. Hmmmm.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


trippinprincezz13

While I personally prefer to make my own burgers at home since I trust them more and so I can add whatever deliciousness I want to them, TBH, Burger King's burgers disgust me the least out of the "big 3" fast food places around here and I'll usually go there if we're in a last resort-fast food situation (except when they had whatever god-awful monstrosity with mashed potatoes and whatever else mush burger - the steakhouse or whatever?). Aside from the lack of fiber Nigel mentioned, I don't see this experiment causing anything horribly dramatic to go wrong and if condiments are added, then it'll help with the other nutrients. I almost suggested a multi-vitamin to counteract any deficiencies, but realized that'd go against the spirit of the experiment as most homeless people don't have bottles of vitamins on hand.

I'm interested in the results, but don't really see this as a big-freakout thing especially staying in around the recommended calorie values, etc. Good luck, Nigel!
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Suu

I should NOT have eaten 2 BK original chicken sandwiches for lunch...no sir. Bad idea.  :x
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Quote from: Nigel on October 05, 2009, 06:32:08 PM
I have a soft spot for McDonald's ever since they refused to use GMO potatoes and kicked a hole in Monsanto, which had spent years and god knows how many millions developing the potato. Every other major chain had to follow suit, or they'd look bad, and Monsanto had to abandon their Newleaf potato entirely.

wait really?

*googles*

McDonald's rules! I'm going to go buy some McDonald's next chance I get. And then I will feel greasy after eating it, but I'll be sitting there with a contented smile on my face, knowing that I just patronized a company that pooped on Monsanto.

fomenter

jack in a box had a "ghipada ??" burger that was "fancy" bread but it may be local only i don't see it on their website..
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