Pot/drugs: An all-encompassing explanation.

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

Fread degenerates further into apple talk country!

Oh,

But this IS apple talk!

[East Coast Hustle]

And then this article I posted was merely to demonstrate that while one study may suggest a short term benefit, one must also consider the long term impacts of prolonged use of any drug whether it be mushrooms or pot.

yes, that's exactly what I meant by "scoring points":

the research linked in the article (let alone the article itself) was not relevant, cause it was about the dangers of long term usage of pot and the one you were replying to about a debatable benefit of single use of mushrooms.

it was only relevant in the sense of countering "research that seems to show benefit of drug usage" with "research that shows danger of drug usage".

maybe my issue is with you lumping together pot and mushrooms like that. you can't compare them.

Well, I would argue that you can compare them, in as much, as they both have impacts on the brain.  And they both have impacts on the brain that we continue to study and understand.  That was the point and all I was trying to demonstrate.  It wasn't about scoring points, it was about adding another perspective.  Sure, I could've simply replied and said "Well, we might learn later that this short term effect is blunted by a long term negative effect", and considering the fallout, perhaps that's what I should've done.  But I didn't. 

The point of me posting the article was to highlight the research.

Well, you would have been better off linking the actual research, as the article drew incorrect conclusions from the research and was basically spreading FUD, which is not really useful in a debate.

Well, guess what, I fucking have to work during the day.  That's the reason I'm not around that much anymore.  I work 40 hours a week, I have a wife and daughter and another kid on the way.  The only time I get for this shit is a little bit of time in the morning after breakfast.  And so while I was scanning MSNBC for the news, I came across this article and thought I'd share it.  I'm sorry I don't have the luxury of hunting for the two studies on the internet, but that's the way it is. 

And that's what I got from Rat's response, not questioning your integrity, but questioning the article.

Then, after Rat, very clearly debunked the article but not the research linked in the article, you took that as questioning your integrity, which prompted my response of not taking everything so damn personally.

Maybe you missed the part where Rat intimated that pretty much everything I do in my job is about making up lies and bullshit.  All based upon ONE fucking article. 

Or should I just believe anything you link to, due to your sterling reputation of providing us with reliable studies and anecdotes on the topic?

And this is exactly what I'm talking about.  You can't just simply disagree with me.  You've gotta get a personal dig in as well. 

Well in all fairness, you have posted links to studies that were not reliable* and anecdotes that were, to say the least, rather confusing** .

And of course ALL of the counter studies that you and Rat and others have posted are 100% bias-free and iron clad right?  There's absolutely no confirmation bias with you guys at all is there? 

*the ones I read in the previous thread about drugs were severely biased and contained numerous falsehoods and omissions. when this was pointed out, you took that personally and the discussion went downhill from there, again about your integrity and no longer discussing the research.

That's quite the generalization there.  I'm sure you and Rat did disagree with some of the studies I've posted.  But your assertions don't automatically invalidate peer-reviewed research.  So while you have come to conclusions that all of the studies I've posted are bullshit, there is always the possibility that you are completely wrong. 

**remember the "pharma parties" and "popping pills from a bowl like skittles" discussion? sure we resolved the confusion in the end, you never meant to imply kids grabbing a handful of pills blindly from a bowl, but it took pretty damn long before we cleared up that simple misunderstanding, mostly because you took it so very personally that people doubted your story.

No, it was mostly because you and Rat and others were acting like pedantic pricks and decided instead of focusing on the actual debate, decided to piss and moan about a generalization which I very quickly clarified.  The point of the discussion was that kids are using Rx drugs in social situations.  They are bringing them to parties and using them together.  I said they were popping them like skittles.  Yes, it was a bit of an exaggeration, but the point remained.  Kids were callously and carelessly abusing medications they simply didn't understand.  But no, you guys had to focus on exaggeration even after it was qualified. 

why is it that every time someone posts a reasonable critique of something you posted regarding drug use, you get all bent and act like we just pissed on your mom? I think those bars in your prison are giving you some serious tunnel vision.




...maybe you should smoke a joint and chill out.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

[Triple Zero]

why is it that every time someone posts a reasonable critique of something you posted regarding drug use, you get all bent and act like we just pissed on your mom? I think those bars in your prison are giving you some serious tunnel vision.




...maybe you should smoke a joint and chill out.

Okay now I have a serious deja vu.



Didn't you already once ... in another ... life? Maybe?

[Doktor Howl]

I regret the hell out of starting this thread, and I wonder why people subject themselves to this shit.

Carry on.   

[LMNO]

I'm just gonna sit over here, and comb my 'stache.



GOTTA- hell, you know the rest.

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

LMNO's 'stache is looking fine.

[Doktor Howl]

LMNO's 'stache is looking fine.

I still think he looks better without one.

Of course, I haven't seen a mustachioed rage face (ala the club pic).

[LMNO]

I put my order in for the Oregon 'Stache Wax.

And a custom brush.


GOTTAGOTTAGOTTA.


Dok - Rage face may be forthcoming.

[Z³]

I can remember two or three other threads exactly like this one. And the same thing happens over and over.

Really people. Are we grown ups here? Can we just agree we have different opinions about things and that it doesn't mean we dislike each other?

I've been following this thread.
I think Kai has made the statement that I agree with the most.

[Doktor Howl]

Dok - Rage face may be forthcoming.

Don't know if you can top the club shot.

Was that Mrs. LMNO in the background?

[Doktor Howl]

Shrink that down and I'll make an emote out of it.

[LMNO]

Dok - Rage face may be forthcoming.

Don't know if you can top the club shot.

Was that Mrs. LMNO in the background?

In the skirt?

No, that's Ed.  Also known as FAAAAABULOUS!

[Doktor Howl]

Dok - Rage face may be forthcoming.

Don't know if you can top the club shot.

Was that Mrs. LMNO in the background?

In the skirt?

No, that's Ed.  Also known as FAAAAABULOUS!

I'd hit it.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Shrink that down and I'll make an emote out of it.

Your wish, my command:

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