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Yet another healthcare topic

Started by LMNO, February 25, 2010, 08:18:57 PM

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LMNO

Quote from: Professor Freeky on March 22, 2010, 07:05:33 PM
Hoshit, a healthcare bill passed? Did not hear; wasn't paying attention. :eek:

Technically, a health insurance bill passed.  There's a difference.

Freeky


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Quote from: LMNO on March 22, 2010, 07:09:07 PM
Quote from: Professor Freeky on March 22, 2010, 07:05:33 PM
Hoshit, a healthcare bill passed? Did not hear; wasn't paying attention. :eek:

Technically, a health insurance bill passed.  There's a difference.

its still all about the money . . . 
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I would have preferred to see a more complete package passed... but half a loaf of bread is much nicer than none.
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Suu

Still, putting insurance carriers in their places certainly is a start.
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Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Yep, now only if they could do that with the rest of the corporations...
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LMNO

Quote from: Suu on March 22, 2010, 07:31:08 PM
Still, putting insurance carriers in their places certainly is a start.

Is that actually going to happen, though?

Cain

In Washington DC?  Accountability?

LMNO


Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Maybe no accountability, but at least they let us keep our sammiches! (except for 33% of them)
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Triple Zero

Yes Rat, but you might get FREE DRUGS in return! What's not to like? ;-)
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Quote from: Triple Zero on March 22, 2010, 08:12:48 PM
Yes Rat, but you might get FREE DRUGS in return! What's not to like? ;-)

ROFL  :lulz:

I was really, really sick last month. I have a good job and very good insurance. So I went to the doctor, paid my $20 co-pay, got poked at, given two shots and three prescriptions. I then went to fill the prescriptions and they gave me one for free and one that cost four dollars. They're weren't generics... that's just apparently what they cost now at Giant Eagle.

This country is so fucking bizarre.
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Triple Zero

I read an article in the newspaper last week, about a Dutch correspondent in uh Washington I think. He went to get his meds at the apothecary, and found that exactly the same meds cost 6x as much as in the Netherlands. When he asked about that they said "Well, I can probably take 20% off, but no more." -- WTF you can haggle about the price of medication? :lol: Truly bizarre indeed.

But it's totally free market capitalism that way and therefore the supply and demand and blahblah and it poops unicorns.
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Quote from: Triple Zero on March 22, 2010, 08:21:12 PM
I read an article in the newspaper last week, about a Dutch correspondent in uh Washington I think. He went to get his meds at the apothecary, and found that exactly the same meds cost 6x as much as in the Netherlands. When he asked about that they said "Well, I can probably take 20% off, but no more." -- WTF you can haggle about the price of medication? :lol: Truly bizarre indeed.

But it's totally free market capitalism that way and therefore the supply and demand and blahblah and it poops unicorns.

But its not totally free market... corporations can hold patents on drugs and therefore hold the market on those drugs. Generics only show up after a patent has poomped out. There are even comercials now where a company will say "Blah, blah, blah you should take our drugs... if you can't pay for it we can help you.... talk to your doctor today!!"

I still haven't figured out how that works intelligently.
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also, if it actually said 'apothecary' it was probably some hippie hut, and all bets are off.