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But what about incoherent adoration of the Red Sox and movies about Charlestown?


I find your conclusions suspicious.

I blame that on genetic mutation, not anything doing with cultural anthropology.

Fuck Sports.

Baseball isn't a sport.  It's a way to make a half million people sit still for three hours.

Gotta love the fact that people spend hundreds of dollars on tickets to watch others whack balls with big wooden sticks over their heads. There's a job for everybody these days, right? especially when your only marketable skill is "the guy who can slap the piece of leather with his big stick over the heads of the people that came to see him do that."

[Nephew Twiddleton]

I wonder what an anthropologist would say.

He's sitting at home with the popcorn watching this thread.

Well, tell him to fucking spill it.  Are they an ethnic group, culture, what?

I would welcome his input, even if it contradicts anything that I'm saying.

Funny how a joke about the Welsh turned into this.

He may pop in. I dunno...he doesn't want to piss people off and cause a pointless fight.

What have you DONE to him, Suu?

I haven't done ANYTHING, he would just rather discuss this in person than over the internet, especially after the last anthropological "discussion" we had on this board in which he got involved.

I mean, if Doktor Blight wants to come down to Providence one day and sit and bullshit with Sir General Frungle, I'm sure it can be arranged. This is something that he does love very much and can talk for HOURS on. Hell, we get into debates about shit like this all the time. Mostly because historians like myself view things more romantically than an anthropologist/archaeologist. He wants facts, I'm fine with theories.

I'm fine with theories, as long as they have some founding to them, some reality.

What I love is "Well, I'm entitled to my opinion..."

To this, I offer the words of Harlan Ellison:

"No, schmuck, you are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your INFORMED opinion. Without information, it's just babble, hot air, and farts in the wind."

Willing to discuss further IRL if you consider my previous assertions informed and not necessarily hot air. Respecting your authority as an anthropologist, but am still willing to debate the merits and failings of my definition of a Celt. Not seeing how Norsemen are Celts, but am willing to take your word for it in the interim.

Of course, if you think I'm full of shit, we'll just have to leave it at this.

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I wonder what an anthropologist would say.

He's sitting at home with the popcorn watching this thread.

Well, tell him to fucking spill it.  Are they an ethnic group, culture, what?

I would welcome his input, even if it contradicts anything that I'm saying.

Funny how a joke about the Welsh turned into this.

He may pop in. I dunno...he doesn't want to piss people off and cause a pointless fight.

What have you DONE to him, Suu?

I haven't done ANYTHING, he would just rather discuss this in person than over the internet, especially after the last anthropological "discussion" we had on this board in which he got involved.

I mean, if Doktor Blight wants to come down to Providence one day and sit and bullshit with Sir General Frungle, I'm sure it can be arranged. This is something that he does love very much and can talk for HOURS on. Hell, we get into debates about shit like this all the time. Mostly because historians like myself view things more romantically than an anthropologist/archaeologist. He wants facts, I'm fine with theories.

I'm fine with theories, as long as they have some founding to them, some reality.

What I love is "Well, I'm entitled to my opinion..."

To this, I offer the words of Harlan Ellison:

"No, schmuck, you are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your INFORMED opinion. Without information, it's just babble, hot air, and farts in the wind."

What about the Newport Tower and it's keystones? Which you blindly attributed to being colonial until you saw them?

I won that one, ya windbag! Haha! I say...*clears throat* The croquet hoops look damn pretty this time of year.

Well, no, you really didn't.

You see, anyone from any POST ROMAN society would have used keystoning, therefore dating it to a group of people who had knowledge of that architecture at the time. Digs have been done around it and there has never been anything found to prove that it was erected by any culture other than that of anybody who was here in the post-contact period.

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I wonder what an anthropologist would say.

He's sitting at home with the popcorn watching this thread.

Well, tell him to fucking spill it.  Are they an ethnic group, culture, what?

I would welcome his input, even if it contradicts anything that I'm saying.

Funny how a joke about the Welsh turned into this.

He may pop in. I dunno...he doesn't want to piss people off and cause a pointless fight.

What have you DONE to him, Suu?

I haven't done ANYTHING, he would just rather discuss this in person than over the internet, especially after the last anthropological "discussion" we had on this board in which he got involved.

I mean, if Doktor Blight wants to come down to Providence one day and sit and bullshit with Sir General Frungle, I'm sure it can be arranged. This is something that he does love very much and can talk for HOURS on. Hell, we get into debates about shit like this all the time. Mostly because historians like myself view things more romantically than an anthropologist/archaeologist. He wants facts, I'm fine with theories.

I'm fine with theories, as long as they have some founding to them, some reality.

What I love is "Well, I'm entitled to my opinion..."

To this, I offer the words of Harlan Ellison:

"No, schmuck, you are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your INFORMED opinion. Without information, it's just babble, hot air, and farts in the wind."

Willing to discuss further IRL if you consider my previous assertions informed and not necessarily hot air. Respecting your authority as an anthropologist, but am still willing to debate the merits and failings of my definition of a Celt. Not seeing how Norsemen are Celts, but am willing to take your word for it in the interim.

Of course, if you think I'm full of shit, we'll just have to leave it at this.

It's really not up FOR debate, the facts have already been found. Of course I don't think you're full of shit, any information you have put out here absolutely has the ring of truth. There is simply no way to synthesize any theories on the culture since that synthesis already happened, around the 1930's. It's as simple as that.

[Doktor Howl]

God dammit.

I try to live peacefully, in harmony with the interdumpster, and Roger drags me back in.

Misery/company/you know.

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However, if there were to be any opposing information found to this, then that would pave the way for more discussion.

This is what I hate about these discussions, it always ends up with people attacking each other when they perceive to have had their intellects attacked. For anybody reading this: NOBODY IS ATTACKING YOU! However, don't post an easily refutable opinion...not saying anybody has, but if they do, then you are causing your own intellectual defeat.

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God dammit.

I try to live peacefully, in harmony with the interdumpster, and Roger drags me back in.

Misery/company/you know.

It's awfully cold in hell, folks...Roger needs the body heat.

[Doktor Howl]

However, if there were to be any opposing information found to this, then that would pave the way for more discussion.

This is what I hate about these discussions, it always ends up with people attacking each other when they perceive to have had their intellects attacked. For anybody reading this: NOBODY IS ATTACKING YOU! However, don't post an easily refutable opinion...not saying anybody has, but if they do, then you are causing your own intellectual defeat.

Don't listen to him, Doktor Blight...Your honor is at stake, here.  Dig those fucking heels and and fight to the bitter end.

[Suu]

For those that are interested in what we're talking about: http://www.redwoodlibrary.org/special_collections/old_stone_mill.html

I just refuse to believe that the colonists, who built structures in Newport that are still up, including in the vicinity of the tower, built that. It's a completely different look. Why wouldn't they have just made a damn lookout tower or windmill in the same old boring square look as the typical architecture of the time? There's also no evidence supporting that it was a mill except for Governor Benedict Arnold's will in 1678 in which he calls it his "Stonebuilt-Windmill".

I'm not saying it was Norse, because we still don't have hard evidence they came into Narragansett Bay, but I just don't think it was colonial.

When was the last time they allowed a dig there? And did the archaeologists...on the payroll of the state of Rhode Island no doubt, think to dig any FURTHER than finding colonial artifacts? OF COURSE the colonists would have use it, it's a standing structure on the highest hill on Aquidneck (Rhode) Island!

I know other institutions want to do excavations again, but the city of Newport scorns archaeologists something fierce...I wonder why. What are they trying to hide?

[Nephew Twiddleton]

However, if there were to be any opposing information found to this, then that would pave the way for more discussion.

This is what I hate about these discussions, it always ends up with people attacking each other when they perceive to have had their intellects attacked. For anybody reading this: NOBODY IS ATTACKING YOU! However, don't post an easily refutable opinion...not saying anybody has, but if they do, then you are causing your own intellectual defeat.

Fair enough. Not considering my intellect being attacked. More that I'm not wrong (data) but I'm not right (interpretation) either.

Though I would like to hear more (rather than debate, since debate is the wrong word) as to the Norse link. Plus I haven't been to Providence in awhile and would make a good excuse to get out of Boston for a little bit.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

However, if there were to be any opposing information found to this, then that would pave the way for more discussion.

This is what I hate about these discussions, it always ends up with people attacking each other when they perceive to have had their intellects attacked. For anybody reading this: NOBODY IS ATTACKING YOU! However, don't post an easily refutable opinion...not saying anybody has, but if they do, then you are causing your own intellectual defeat.

Don't listen to him, Doktor Blight...Your honor is at stake, here.  Dig those fucking heels and and fight to the bitter end.

No, I'm not interested in an Unlimited Doktor Blight appreciation thread.

Besides choosing to be wrong to save face is for suckers.

[Suu]

However, if there were to be any opposing information found to this, then that would pave the way for more discussion.

This is what I hate about these discussions, it always ends up with people attacking each other when they perceive to have had their intellects attacked. For anybody reading this: NOBODY IS ATTACKING YOU! However, don't post an easily refutable opinion...not saying anybody has, but if they do, then you are causing your own intellectual defeat.

Don't listen to him, Doktor Blight...Your honor is at stake, here.  Dig those fucking heels and and fight to the bitter end.

No, I'm not interested in an Unlimited Doktor Blight appreciation thread.

Besides choosing to be wrong to save face is for suckers.

Fortunately with something like this, there is no definite right or wrong. It's a lot of opinions and ideas. Nobody knows or will probably ever know for sure.

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For those that are interested in what we're talking about: http://www.redwoodlibrary.org/special_collections/old_stone_mill.html

I just refuse to believe that the colonists, who built structures in Newport that are still up, including in the vicinity of the tower, built that. It's a completely different look. Why wouldn't they have just made a damn lookout tower or windmill in the same old boring square look as the typical architecture of the time? There's also no evidence supporting that it was a mill except for Governor Benedict Arnold's will in 1678 in which he calls it his "Stonebuilt-Windmill".

I'm not saying it was Norse, because we still don't have hard evidence they came into Narragansett Bay, but I just don't think it was colonial.

When was the last time they allowed a dig there? And did the archaeologists...on the payroll of the state of Rhode Island no doubt, think to dig any FURTHER than finding colonial artifacts? OF COURSE the colonists would have use it, it's a standing structure on the highest hill on Aquidneck (Rhode) Island!

I know other institutions want to do excavations again, but the city of Newport scorns archaeologists something fierce...I wonder why. What are they trying to hide?

They're covering it up so that the el chupacabra burial won't be found.

[Doktor Howl]

However, if there were to be any opposing information found to this, then that would pave the way for more discussion.

This is what I hate about these discussions, it always ends up with people attacking each other when they perceive to have had their intellects attacked. For anybody reading this: NOBODY IS ATTACKING YOU! However, don't post an easily refutable opinion...not saying anybody has, but if they do, then you are causing your own intellectual defeat.

Don't listen to him, Doktor Blight...Your honor is at stake, here.  Dig those fucking heels and and fight to the bitter end.

No, I'm not interested in an Unlimited Doktor Blight appreciation thread.

Besides choosing to be wrong to save face is for suckers.

DOIN' IT WRONG.

You're supposed to deflect, redefine words, and play on semantics for the sake of argument, until everyone is screaming insults at each other, and at least 3 people attempt to flounce.

For fuck's sake, Doktor Blight, there are protocols for this sort of thing.

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However, if there were to be any opposing information found to this, then that would pave the way for more discussion.

This is what I hate about these discussions, it always ends up with people attacking each other when they perceive to have had their intellects attacked. For anybody reading this: NOBODY IS ATTACKING YOU! However, don't post an easily refutable opinion...not saying anybody has, but if they do, then you are causing your own intellectual defeat.

Don't listen to him, Doktor Blight...Your honor is at stake, here.  Dig those fucking heels and and fight to the bitter end.

No, I'm not interested in an Unlimited Doktor Blight appreciation thread.

Besides choosing to be wrong to save face is for suckers.

Fortunately with something like this, there is no definite right or wrong. It's a lot of opinions and ideas. Nobody knows or will probably ever know for sure.

CELTS, no, TOWER, yes.