Maddow interviews Jon Stewart

[Disco Pickle]

I had planned on writing this tonight when I have more time but need a break from diagrams anyway.

1.  You can't "get right with Eris".

fair enough.  it was tongue in cheek anyway.

2.  The proper term for me is "Your Eminence" or "Hey asshole"

.

I'm going to go with an amalgamation.  How's "Your Eminent Asshole" sound?

3.  You believe the wrong things, because you've listened to some of the lies, and bought into the monkey system.  In the words of DJ Rubber Ducky, "A Black Sheep is Still a Sheep".  The libertarians are just another facet of the American political machineTM (the facet used to corral anyone who is dangerously close to thinking), which is itself just another variant on the age-old alpha/beta monkey paradigm that's been failing for 2,000,000+ years.

If you're going to do THAT, then why bother with Discordianism?  We have to WORK with the system, but we certainly don't have to IDENTIFY with it.  We certainly don't have to swallow half the lies because we've decided on which side we'd rather NOT have sodomize us, and thus identified with the other side, which we've convinced ourselves will at least use a little lube.

I mean, if you're going to start believing social fictions like "political parties" and "the government" and "the free market", you'll believe anything.

this all rings true to my ears, and in my more lucid, less settled-in moments, sounds vaguely like something I would say.  Libertarians as a political party never appealed to me really, but some of the ideas I found when I got to exploring politics sounded more in line with the way I live my own life, and while there certainly are a lot of self satisfied libertarians who think their way is the true and best way, that could be said about any political/religious/social group.  I have, however, met more libertarian identifying humans than any others who are open to perspective shifts when given new information that challenges their current notions. 

It's not normally an identity I wear around though it comes out here often enough I suppose, and if it didn't even have a name, or any other adherents, I'd still have the same general beliefs shaped through my experiences over 30 years on this hunk of rock, I just wouldn't have a label for them.

TFYS,S, I know.  And I haven't drank the kool-aid that says any one group of monkeys holds the best ideas to the exclusion of all others. 

If you're going to do THAT, then why bother with Discordianism?  We have to WORK with the system, but we certainly don't have to IDENTIFY with it.  We certainly don't have to swallow half the lies because we've decided on which side we'd rather NOT have sodomize us, and thus identified with the other side, which we've convinced ourselves will at least use a little lube.

I know this to be true.  Thanks for the defibrillation.  I'm always a work in progress.

[BabylonHoruv]

do please tell me, oh condescending holy pope of Discord, what these things are that I believe that are wrong and how I might get right in the eyes of our most beloved goddess and your highness the great pointer outer of wrongness on this Machines Forum, Simple though it may be.

I'm glad you asked.

1.  You can't "get right with Eris".

2.  The proper term for me is "Your Eminence" or "Hey asshole".

3.  You believe the wrong things, because you've listened to some of the lies, and bought into the monkey system.  In the words of DJ Rubber Ducky, "A Black Sheep is Still a Sheep".  The libertarians are just another facet of the American political machine^TM (the facet used to corral anyone who is dangerously close to thinking), which is itself just another variant on the age-old alpha/beta monkey paradigm that's been failing for 2,000,000+ years.

If you're going to do THAT, then why bother with Discordianism?  We have to WORK with the system, but we certainly don't have to IDENTIFY with it.  We certainly don't have to swallow half the lies because we've decided on which side we'd rather NOT have sodomize us, and thus identified with the other side, which we've convinced ourselves will at least use a little lube.

I mean, if you're going to start believing social fictions like "political parties" and "the government" and "the free market", you'll believe anything.

<-------- will believe anything.  devoutly

[Sister Fracture]

Me too, but it's mostly just the bullshit that I make up myself.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

do please tell me, oh condescending holy pope of Discord, what these things are that I believe that are wrong and how I might get right in the eyes of our most beloved goddess and your highness the great pointer outer of wrongness on this Machines Forum, Simple though it may be.

I'm glad you asked.

1.  You can't "get right with Eris".

2.  The proper term for me is "Your Eminence" or "Hey asshole".

3.  You believe the wrong things, because you've listened to some of the lies, and bought into the monkey system.  In the words of DJ Rubber Ducky, "A Black Sheep is Still a Sheep".  The libertarians are just another facet of the American political machine^TM (the facet used to corral anyone who is dangerously close to thinking), which is itself just another variant on the age-old alpha/beta monkey paradigm that's been failing for 2,000,000+ years.

If you're going to do THAT, then why bother with Discordianism?  We have to WORK with the system, but we certainly don't have to IDENTIFY with it.  We certainly don't have to swallow half the lies because we've decided on which side we'd rather NOT have sodomize us, and thus identified with the other side, which we've convinced ourselves will at least use a little lube.

I mean, if you're going to start believing social fictions like "political parties" and "the government" and "the free market", you'll believe anything.

<-------- will believe anything.  devoutly

Beats thinking.

[BabylonHoruv]

Me too, but it's mostly just the bullshit that I make up myself.

I'll believe other people's bullshit too, so long as it is entertaining.

[Disco Pickle]

I think for myself Roger.  implying I don't because some of my views fall in line with a particular group who has a given name is pretty myopic IMO.

If we're discussing reconciling social politics with discordia, which I think we are, I suppose you yourself do not at all identify with any school of political thought here in the states or anywhere else in the world?

do you pick and choose?  have you your very own positions that cannot be easily filed away and classified?

are you above identifying with other humans and their politics?

more and more it seems to me you would much rather not be on this hunk of rock at all anymore. 

[the last yatto]

Pickle, if you believe what you read, you aren't really a discordian

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I think for myself Roger.  implying I don't because some of my views fall in line with a particular group who has a given name is pretty myopic IMO.

You said yourself that you are an active member of a political party, ie, the Libertarians.  Your views don't fall in line with them, you actively organize for them.

If we're discussing reconciling social politics with discordia, which I think we are, I suppose you yourself do not at all identify with any school of political thought here in the states or anywhere else in the world?

None that are presently in use.

do you pick and choose?  have you your very own positions that cannot be easily filed away and classified?

Does misanthropy count?

are you above identifying with other humans and their politics?

No, yes, in order.

more and more it seems to me you would much rather not be on this hunk of rock at all anymore. 

No, it's everyone else that needs to shift.

[Disco Pickle]

Pickle, if you believe what you read, you aren't really a discordian

that must then include anything written here, ever.

how very catch 22..  or 23, as the case may be.

[Telarus]

Pickle, if you believe what you read, you aren't really a discordian

that must then include anything written here, ever.

how very catch 22..  or 23, as the case may be.

Now you're starting to get it.