Maddow interviews Jon Stewart

[Thurnez Isa]

Ok Im probably going to get the flaming of a life time here (mind you Im not a big fan of TV to begin with) but it always seemed to me that the bar was set so low that Steward became bigger then his ability of a satirist and now he's reeling back a bit.
That and he surrounded himself with a really good crew. The show lost a lot by the time Cobert left to do his own thing.

[Pope Lecherous]

Ok Im probably going to get the flaming of a life time here (mind you Im not a big fan of TV to begin with) but it always seemed to me that the bar was set so low that Steward became bigger then his ability of a satirist and now he's reeling back a bit.
That and he surrounded himself with a really good crew. The show lost a lot by the time Cobert left to do his own thing.

that's not too far off the mark along with what DP said (good call).  Colbert (or his team) is just funnier and he established himself, from the beginning, closer to what he wanted to be than stewart did.  so for stewart, shifting towards the ideal satirist would shrink his base as DP pointed out.

[Disco Pickle]

Ok Im probably going to get the flaming of a life time here (mind you Im not a big fan of TV to begin with) but it always seemed to me that the bar was set so low that Steward became bigger then his ability of a satirist and now he's reeling back a bit.
That and he surrounded himself with a really good crew. The show lost a lot by the time Cobert left to do his own thing.

that's not too far off the mark along with what DP said (good call).  Colbert (or his team) is just funnier and he established himself, from the beginning, closer to what he wanted to be than stewart did.  so for stewart, shifting towards the ideal satirist would shrink his base as DP pointed out.

I think Stewart is just who he wants to be.  His comedy sense and timing came from his roots as a stand up comedian.  Watch some of his early stuff, it's the same John we know and love.  He's more refined, and has a format and a bus full of writers, but his comedic persona is really him.

I don't find Colbert funnier, but I find he and his writers are much more biting in their satire than Stewart and his crew are.  The coorispondents dinner Colbert did being the greatest example.  Stewart could never have pulled off roundhouse after roundhouse the way Colbert did, because that's not him.  He's happy to make fun without alienating either side, simply pointing out that the Emperor has No Clothes.

Colbert would go so far as to point out that Yes, the Emperor is Naked, and should probably get a body wax, go on a diet, get that birthmark on his ass removed and MAN it must have been cold out that day.

[Cramulus]

yeah, colbert had the advantage of situating his show based on his experiences at the daily show, so he's been able to carve himself a slightly more specific position to mock from.


Charlie Rose interviewed Colbert (out of character) in 2006. One thing that Colbert said was that his mask allows him to get away with a lot of stuff that Jon can't say or do. And it protects him, he never has to argue from a position of being right. So he considers what Jon does more courageous, but yes, he can be a lot sharper.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

do please tell me, oh condescending holy pope of Discord, what these things are that I believe that are wrong and how I might get right in the eyes of our most beloved goddess and your highness the great pointer outer of wrongness on this Machines Forum, Simple though it may be.

I'm glad you asked.

1.  You can't "get right with Eris".

2.  The proper term for me is "Your Eminence" or "Hey asshole".

3.  You believe the wrong things, because you've listened to some of the lies, and bought into the monkey system.  In the words of DJ Rubber Ducky, "A Black Sheep is Still a Sheep".  The libertarians are just another facet of the American political machine^TM (the facet used to corral anyone who is dangerously close to thinking), which is itself just another variant on the age-old alpha/beta monkey paradigm that's been failing for 2,000,000+ years.

If you're going to do THAT, then why bother with Discordianism?  We have to WORK with the system, but we certainly don't have to IDENTIFY with it.  We certainly don't have to swallow half the lies because we've decided on which side we'd rather NOT have sodomize us, and thus identified with the other side, which we've convinced ourselves will at least use a little lube.

I mean, if you're going to start believing social fictions like "political parties" and "the government" and "the free market", you'll believe anything.

[Disco Pickle]

If anyone missed it, Stewart tore into Beck last night.  About time IMO.

I'll get back to you Roger.  It's marinating.

[Jenne]

If anyone missed it, Stewart tore into Beck last night.  About time IMO.

About time?  He's done that sort of thing before.  He apes Beck on a regular basis.  Gives a good flexing of his satiric muscles.

[Disco Pickle]

If anyone missed it, Stewart tore into Beck last night.  About time IMO.

About time?  He's done that sort of thing before.  He apes Beck on a regular basis.  Gives a good flexing of his satiric muscles.

I've missed many then, but this one seemed really over the top to me.

[Jenne]

If anyone missed it, Stewart tore into Beck last night.  About time IMO.

About time?  He's done that sort of thing before.  He apes Beck on a regular basis.  Gives a good flexing of his satiric muscles.

I've missed many then, but this one seemed really over the top to me.

yeah, you've missed out if you think that wasn't par for the course--it was good, but not over the top.  He's done similiarly before.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

*whistles*

[Disco Pickle]

*whistles*

im getting to it..  might not have it all in my head by the end of lunch, in that case it'll have to be this weekend when I get a down moment.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

*whistles*

im getting to it..  might not have it all in my head by the end of lunch, in that case it'll have to be this weekend when I get a down moment.

Well, then, please PM me whenever you get around to it.

[Triple Zero]

Link to streaming video?

[Disco Pickle]

*whistles*

im getting to it..  might not have it all in my head by the end of lunch, in that case it'll have to be this weekend when I get a down moment.

Well, then, please PM me whenever you get around to it.

Sure will do.

000, it's available on the Daily Show website, second and third video down.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Sure will do.

Thanks.

TGRR,
Has become more accomodating to those paralyzed by partisanship.