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Started by Adios, January 01, 2011, 05:25:40 PM

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hooplala

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 05, 2011, 02:32:02 PM
Can't have you go around tearing apart the fabric of society all willy nilly-like. 



Why do yuo hate FREEDOM?
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Adios

Quote from: Triple Zero on January 05, 2011, 01:56:25 AM
Charley, all except one of those weren't even addressed at you.

I get drugs today. Titration in 3 days. Must. Hang. On.

East Coast Hustle

Quote from: Sigmatic on January 04, 2011, 08:22:48 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on January 04, 2011, 08:20:25 PM
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Quote from: Cramulus on January 04, 2011, 06:43:01 PMIt seems logical that there are laws preventing you from drinking anywhere you'd like

It does?

Yeah.  Some examples of what I'd consider to be good no booze zones would be schools and day cares.  But I support drinking in public places, personally.  I don't see how it's a bad thing, and it just gives cops one more thing to bother homeless people about.

Well, here's the thing. There are plenty of people that get even more stupid than they normally are when drinking. Shocking, I know, but bear with me. Would you want these people out and about making big scenes at say, a park where kids are playing? Considering how the majority of people I know act when they go out for drinks, I certainly wouldn't.

Then there's the school of thought that people should handle their shit or face the consequences.  If I want a beer at a park picnic, I see no reason why I can't because some people drink for the sole purpose of getting hammered and acting a fool.



THIS. x1,000,000.

Make the "being a drunken jackass" part illegal rather than making public consumption illegal across the board.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: East Coast Hipster on January 05, 2011, 04:48:39 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on January 04, 2011, 08:22:48 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on January 04, 2011, 08:20:25 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on January 04, 2011, 08:16:13 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 04, 2011, 08:07:01 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 04, 2011, 06:43:01 PMIt seems logical that there are laws preventing you from drinking anywhere you'd like

It does?

Yeah.  Some examples of what I'd consider to be good no booze zones would be schools and day cares.  But I support drinking in public places, personally.  I don't see how it's a bad thing, and it just gives cops one more thing to bother homeless people about.

Well, here's the thing. There are plenty of people that get even more stupid than they normally are when drinking. Shocking, I know, but bear with me. Would you want these people out and about making big scenes at say, a park where kids are playing? Considering how the majority of people I know act when they go out for drinks, I certainly wouldn't.

Then there's the school of thought that people should handle their shit or face the consequences.  If I want a beer at a park picnic, I see no reason why I can't because some people drink for the sole purpose of getting hammered and acting a fool.



THIS. x1,000,000.

Make the "being a drunken jackass" part illegal rather than making public consumption illegal across the board.

Yep.  Drink in public all you like, but you're still accountable for your behavior, because who got you drunk, after all?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Adios

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2011, 04:49:55 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hipster on January 05, 2011, 04:48:39 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on January 04, 2011, 08:22:48 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on January 04, 2011, 08:20:25 PM
Quote from: Sigmatic on January 04, 2011, 08:16:13 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on January 04, 2011, 08:07:01 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on January 04, 2011, 06:43:01 PMIt seems logical that there are laws preventing you from drinking anywhere you'd like

It does?

Yeah.  Some examples of what I'd consider to be good no booze zones would be schools and day cares.  But I support drinking in public places, personally.  I don't see how it's a bad thing, and it just gives cops one more thing to bother homeless people about.

Well, here's the thing. There are plenty of people that get even more stupid than they normally are when drinking. Shocking, I know, but bear with me. Would you want these people out and about making big scenes at say, a park where kids are playing? Considering how the majority of people I know act when they go out for drinks, I certainly wouldn't.

Then there's the school of thought that people should handle their shit or face the consequences.  If I want a beer at a park picnic, I see no reason why I can't because some people drink for the sole purpose of getting hammered and acting a fool.



THIS. x1,000,000.

Make the "being a drunken jackass" part illegal rather than making public consumption illegal across the board.

Yep.  Drink in public all you like, but you're still accountable for your behavior, because who got you drunk, after all?

Jim Beam.

What? Am I supposed to take responsibility for my actions?

THIS IS FUKIN AMERICA!

East Coast Hustle

Quote from: Nigel on January 04, 2011, 09:11:49 PM
:lulz: The funny thing is that I smoke and I think the rest of you smokers are wah-wah babypants.

ALSO THIS x1,000,000. WE SHOULD MAKE A LAW THAT YO UHAVE TO SHOW YOUR BIG BOY PANTS TO THE CLERK BEFORE YOU CAN BUY A PACK.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Phox

Quote from: Charley Brown on January 05, 2011, 04:52:20 PM
Jim Beam.

What? Am I supposed to take responsibility for my actions?

THIS IS FUKIN AMERICA!

Can't argue with that logic.  :lulz:

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 05, 2011, 01:19:05 PM
I agree, I mean if we let the dogs do it why can't we?  I mean, as long as we pick it up.  Am I right? 

Totally! It's a biological need that everyone has. I don't see why we should be forced to go into private rooms to do it.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Adios

Civil disobedience can be fun.

East Coast Hustle

Quote from: BabylonHoruv on January 04, 2011, 09:58:59 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 04, 2011, 09:08:25 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on January 04, 2011, 08:48:41 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 04, 2011, 08:13:02 PM
It's not like anyone who smokes always h as to stand 50 feet from the door outside. They only have to do that when they decide they want to have a smoke.

Wait, you have to stand 50 feet away from the entrance of a pub if you want to go outside and smoke in the USA?

That's retarded.

I mean, second hand smoke hazard when you're in a pub with lots of smokers, fine, but accidentally catching a whiff of smoke when you leave the bar is not going to harm anyone. That's really just needless fuckery. Probably thought up by people that merely dislike the smell. Which I think is only a valid argument in a restaurant, but you aren't allowed to smoke there anyway. Sure, they shouldn't clog up the entrance, but that's common sense, and if that happens, you make rules against that (a very simple rule like: Don't Clog Up The Entrance).



Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 04, 2011, 08:38:27 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on January 04, 2011, 08:30:29 PM
we should ban using your cellphone in your car while driving too.  That shit's dangerous to the rest of us who don't do it.

That actually is happening already in some states.  Most other states regulate it under distracted driving laws.  And I actually think that's a pretty good idea.  That shit can kill people just as dead as driving under the influence.  

Already illegal over here. Except the problem is, they're doing it wrong. Turns out driving is not more dangerous cause you hold a cell in one hand, but because you're being distracted by the conversation, and unlike somebody talking to you from a passenger's seat, the person on the other end of the phone can't tell if you need to pay attention to a busy intersection. Meaning that, yes, calling hands-free is almost just as dangerous.

... though texting while driving is worse ;-) oh Cram already said this. Except it's crazy they needed research for that. I mean it stands to reason you're being stupidly dangerous if you have to take your eyes off the road. Fuck, I even bump into things and people if I text while walking.

Ten feet in Portland. 50 feet is clearly hyperbole and exaggeration.

Cell phone use while driving is illegal in Oregon. Rightfully so.

I think it is 50 feet in Washington.  I know it is far enough that it is actually illegal to smoke outdoors in the city of Seattle without standing in the middle of the street (since it is also prohibited in the parks there)

Still making things up I see.

IIRC, it's 25 feet in WA. And completely unenforced in the city of Seattle, at least as of last weekend.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Charley Brown on January 05, 2011, 03:38:29 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on January 05, 2011, 01:56:25 AM
Charley, all except one of those weren't even addressed at you.

I get drugs today. Titration in 3 days. Must. Hang. On.

Meh I didn't know you were out of yer drugs. I'll go easy on  ya with my sarcasm until you're set right.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Nigel on January 05, 2011, 04:56:10 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 05, 2011, 01:19:05 PM
I agree, I mean if we let the dogs do it why can't we?  I mean, as long as we pick it up.  Am I right? 

Totally! It's a biological need that everyone has. I don't see why we should be forced to go into private rooms to do it.

I disagree entirely.  I do NOT wish to see ANY portion of the bodies of 95% of America, and putting up with their jowled, quivering faces is bad enough.  In fact, I think they should all be fitted for colostomy bags and be forbidden from removing their clothing except to go to sleep at night, if that.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Epimetheus

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 05, 2011, 04:58:06 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 05, 2011, 04:56:10 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 05, 2011, 01:19:05 PM
I agree, I mean if we let the dogs do it why can't we?  I mean, as long as we pick it up.  Am I right? 

Totally! It's a biological need that everyone has. I don't see why we should be forced to go into private rooms to do it.

I disagree entirely.  I do NOT wish to see ANY portion of the bodies of 95% of America, and putting up with their jowled, quivering faces is bad enough.  In fact, I think they should all be fitted for colostomy bags and be forbidden from removing their clothing except to go to sleep at night, if that.

HAZMAT SUITS FOR THE UGLY!
POST-SINGULARITY POCKET ORGASM TOAD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: East Coast Hipster on January 05, 2011, 04:54:27 PM
Quote from: Nigel on January 04, 2011, 09:11:49 PM
:lulz: The funny thing is that I smoke and I think the rest of you smokers are wah-wah babypants.

ALSO THIS x1,000,000. WE SHOULD MAKE A LAW THAT YO UHAVE TO SHOW YOUR BIG BOY PANTS TO THE CLERK BEFORE YOU CAN BUY A PACK.

Seriously. This thread cannot begin to contain my contempt for people who whine about being oppressed because they aren't allowed to publicly impose their unhealthy, addictive, expensive luxury pastime on others.

Also, "WAAAAAHHHHH but it's so addictive I have no chooooiiiiiiiice!" Fucking strap on a pair, of course you have a choice, and nobody else deserves to be inconvenienced because you made a bad decision and got addicted. Just because you do something stupid doesn't mean it's "fair" for everyone else to be imposed on. The way some people BAWWWW you'd think having to go stand on the patio to smoke was comparable to the horrors of Auschwitz.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Adios

Quote from: Nigel on January 05, 2011, 04:57:40 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on January 05, 2011, 03:38:29 PM
Quote from: Triple Zero on January 05, 2011, 01:56:25 AM
Charley, all except one of those weren't even addressed at you.

I get drugs today. Titration in 3 days. Must. Hang. On.

Meh I didn't know you were out of yer drugs. I'll go easy on  ya with my sarcasm until you're set right.

Nah. Carry on.