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The Movie "The Matrix" And Your View of it Before and After Eris.

Started by Icey, February 24, 2011, 06:51:26 AM

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Icey

I'm not saying it's a good movie. Hell, I'm not saying it's bad either. I happen to like it, but I don't really care if you do. What I'm interested in is,

The symbolism.

I saw the movie when I was a kid, and it was pretty cool with the guns and John Woo magic, and then I went on with my life.

And then I got woken up from The Machine™
And then I watched the movie again.

What came through the second viewing was not an action movie, but a metaphor for the GASM's, and the good fight in general.

Redpill, Machine, all that and more. The movie is now not an action treat for me, but a symbolic piece, a representative of "real" life, more true to it than most viewers could ever dream.

Does anyone else see this?

I could be just insane. Well, I am insane.

But, are you insane with me?


Lies

- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!

rong

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AFK

I haven't watched any of the movies and really don't plan to.  Too much Keanu Reeves. 
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Suu

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"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

Lies

- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!

Suu

Yes.

The sequels ruined a perfectly good release of Equilibrium.
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Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

*GrumpButt*

I do see the symbolism.  But mehhhh the movies themselves...
*sigh* You have to be kidding me.

Nephew Twiddleton

The movie predates this board I think... You can graft the symbolism onto it and view it with Discordian eyes but for the most part it was just another sci-fi film.
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LMNO

Quote from: Doktor Blight on February 24, 2011, 02:24:01 PM
The movie predates this board I think... You can graft the symbolism onto it and view it with Discordian eyes but for the most part it was just Plato and Descartes with a full clip on semi-automatic.

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: LMNO, PhD on February 24, 2011, 02:26:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on February 24, 2011, 02:24:01 PM
The movie predates this board I think... You can graft the symbolism onto it and view it with Discordian eyes but for the most part it was just Plato and Descartes with a full clip on semi-automatic.

:lulz: That too.
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Quote from: *GrumpButt* on February 24, 2011, 02:11:18 PM
I do see the symbolism.  But mehhhh the movies themselves...

Why does everyone hate the Matrix now?
Have the sequels really tainted the original beyond redemption?

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LMNO

What do you mean, "now"?

Sure, it was eye candy, but I never saw it as some awesome philisophical head scrambler.


"I Heart Huckabees" was more of an existential mindfuck, to be honest.

Cuddlefish

Quote from: Princess Suu the Apostate on February 24, 2011, 01:51:29 PM
Yes.

The sequels ruined a perfectly good release of Equilibrium.

Agree'd. Equilibrium rocked.

Quote from: LMNO, PhD on February 24, 2011, 02:26:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on February 24, 2011, 02:24:01 PM
The movie predates this board I think... You can graft the symbolism onto it and view it with Discordian eyes but for the most part it was just Plato and Descartes with a full clip on semi-automatic.

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on February 24, 2011, 03:42:45 PM
Quote from: *GrumpButt* on February 24, 2011, 02:11:18 PM
I do see the symbolism.  But mehhhh the movies themselves...

Why does everyone hate the Matrix now?
Have the sequels really tainted the original beyond redemption?



I liked the first two. I liked Reloaded only as a kick-ass action movie, though. The third part sucked it.
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Eater of Clowns

I was in middle school when The Matrix came out, so yeah I thought that shit was both awesome and mind blowing at the time.  I can remember walking out of the theater doing the whole "Is this real?" thing.  It was my first exposure to that.  Just like a lot of people had the same thought after Inception, whereas those who consider the nature of reality just didn't care about that aspect of the movie.

I still think The Matrix is a good action flic.  The latter two were really, atrociously awful.
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