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Started by Telarus, October 30, 2011, 10:37:58 PM

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Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on November 08, 2011, 01:09:36 AM
yeah, I see what you're saying and I think I agree.

Speaking strictly for myself, I have no problem with the narcos in general. My desire to see people get fucked over and/or eliminated extends strictly to the Zetas, who I see as having no respect for the "rules of the game" and who IMO are so egregious and blatant in their unsavory tactics that it's giving other narcos a bad name and making it more difficult for them to make an "honest" living.

Supporting the guys that make and sell drugs... whatever.

Supporting the guys that behead people, shoot and kidnap uninvolved civilians, etc. Fuck em.
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East Coast Hustle

Yep, that's pretty much where I'm at. You're never gonna stop the drug trade, but there's no reason it has to be violent outside of it's own circles. But the Zetas are the greater of all evils in this context.
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Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on November 08, 2011, 01:16:11 PM
Yep, that's pretty much where I'm at. You're never gonna stop the drug trade, but there's no reason it has to be violent outside of it's own circles. But the Zetas are the greater of all evils in this context.

But surely its better for some brown people to lose their lives than for drugs to be legal in the US. I mean, THINK OF THE CHILDREN (at least the white ones).
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East Coast Hustle

I'm not even framing it in the context of legalization, as I don't see Mexico as being likely to legalize the drug trade even if we legalize posession/consumption. And I don't see us going further than legalizing pot so I'm pretty sure the coke and meth trades will remain as profitable as ever. But again, the intrinsic violence of the drug trade need not extend beyond those directly involved in the drug trade.
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Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on November 08, 2011, 01:16:11 PM
Yep, that's pretty much where I'm at. You're never gonna stop the drug trade, but there's no reason it has to be violent outside of it's own circles. But the Zetas are the greater of all evils in this context.

"La Familia" SUPPOSEDLY works under a traditional ideology under which members are SUPPOSED to be "decent".

But you know what, that to me is only a seduction towards the public and others so that they THINK that "La Familia" are the "good guys" and the Zetas are the "bad guys".

Which ultimately is only propaganda so they can have support agaisnt the Zetas and take a bigger share of the market of drug dealing while ultimately doing the same shit.

And foreigners, as well as Anonymous (also some of the mexican population) are falling prey to the lies that "La Familia" is better/decent.

P.S. I welcome any information that proves that "La Familia" are "decent" by comparison to Zetas.
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Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: Joh'Nyx on November 08, 2011, 08:09:01 PM
Quote from: Fuck You One-Eye on November 08, 2011, 01:16:11 PM
Yep, that's pretty much where I'm at. You're never gonna stop the drug trade, but there's no reason it has to be violent outside of it's own circles. But the Zetas are the greater of all evils in this context.

"La Familia" SUPPOSEDLY works under a traditional ideology under which members are SUPPOSED to be "decent".

But you know what, that to me is only a seduction towards the public and others so that they THINK that "La Familia" are the "good guys" and the Zetas are the "bad guys".

Which ultimately is only propaganda so they can have support agaisnt the Zetas and take a bigger share of the market of drug dealing while ultimately doing the same shit.

And foreigners, as well as Anonymous (also some of the mexican population) are falling prey to the lies that "La Familia" is better/decent.

P.S. I welcome any information that proves that "La Familia" are "decent" by comparison to Zetas.

I haven't seen any news stories about La Familia beheading cops and kidnapping random people... so maybe its just that they have better PR, I dunno.
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Faust

http://news.yahoo.com/mexican-drug-cartel-tries-silence-internet-224155885.html

"MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico's hyperviolent Zetas drug cartel appears to be launching what may be one of the first campaigns by an organized crime group to silence commentary on the Internet.
The cartel has already attacked rivals, journalists and other perceived enemies. Now, the target is an online chat room, Nuevo Laredo en Vivo, that allows users to comment on the activities of the Zetas and others in the city on the border with Texas.
Already, three apparent site users have been slain, and a fourth victim may have been discovered Wednesday, when a man's decapitated body was found with what residents said was a banner suggesting he was killed for posting on the site. Chat room users said they could not immediately confirm the victim's identity, because people all post under aliases.
Despite such precautions, users are highly vulnerable, and the Zetas could be tracking them from clues they leave online, experts said Thursday."
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Its like the start of a cyberpunk novel.
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Cain

Given the state of Mexican prisons, I'm not so sure what Los Zetas are afraid of:

QuoteA surprise inspection in a prison in Mexico has revealed the presence of 19 prostitutes, 100 plasma televisions, two sacks of marijuana, and 100 cockerels for cock fighting.

The discovery in the prison in Acapulco came as police prepared to transfer the inmates to a maximum security jail.

The officers also found six female inmates living in the male section of the prison and two peacocks.

Mexican jails are notorious for overcrowding, corruption and rioting.

It is not the first time luxury items like TVs and weapons have been found in a Mexican jail.

In July, prisoners in a jail in Sonora state were found to be running a lottery to raffle off a luxury cell they'd equipped with a fridge, DVD player and air conditioning.

An inspector from the State Commission for the Defence of Human Rights, Hipolito Lugo Cortes, recently denounced conditions in five prisons in Guerrero state, among them the one in Acapulco.

He said inmates were running affairs at these penitentiaries according to their own laws and customs, with little or no control by prison authorities.

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I like how weapons a e considered "luxury items".  :lulz:

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Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson