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Re: News Stories Which Highlight the Structure of the System
« Reply #346 on: April 19, 2013, 09:06:40 pm »
You are aware that's a parody site, right?

And it's DELICIOUS.
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Re: News Stories Which Highlight the Structure of the System
« Reply #347 on: April 19, 2013, 09:13:02 pm »
Tasty and SPREADABLE.  :x
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Re: News Stories Which Highlight the Structure of the System
« Reply #348 on: June 21, 2013, 08:56:31 pm »
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/21/mclibel-leaflet-police-bob-lambert-mcdonalds

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An undercover police officer posing for years as an environmental activist co-wrote a libellous leaflet that was highly critical of McDonald's, and which led to the longest civil trial in English history, costing the fast-food chain millions of pounds in fees.

The true identity of one of the authors of the "McLibel leaflet" is Bob Lambert, a police officer who used the alias Bob Robinson in his five years infiltrating the London Greenpeace group, is revealed in a new book about undercover policing of protest, published next week.

McDonald's famously sued green campaigners over the roughly typed leaflet, in a landmark three-year high court case, that was widely believed to have been a public relations disaster for the corporation. Ultimately the company won a libel battle in which it spent millions on lawyers.

Lambert was deployed by the special demonstration squad (SDS) – a top-secret Metropolitan police unit that targeted political activists between 1968 until 2008, when it was disbanded. He co-wrote the defamatory six-page leaflet in 1986 – and his role in its production has been the subject of an internal Scotland Yard investigation for several months.

Eventually, it's going to turn out there are in fact no anarchists anywhere, and all anarchists are undercover police officers.  In fact, that the police have a laser-like focus on infiltrating anarchist and environmental groups almost exclusively may be revealing about their motives (ie; involving hippie chicks and pot).

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Re: News Stories Which Highlight the Structure of the System
« Reply #349 on: June 22, 2013, 12:29:07 pm »
The police wish they were anarchists. It's their secret desire to destroy the society they have sworn to protect.
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Re: News Stories Which Highlight the Structure of the System
« Reply #350 on: June 22, 2013, 05:23:59 pm »
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/21/mclibel-leaflet-police-bob-lambert-mcdonalds

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An undercover police officer posing for years as an environmental activist co-wrote a libellous leaflet that was highly critical of McDonald's, and which led to the longest civil trial in English history, costing the fast-food chain millions of pounds in fees.

The true identity of one of the authors of the "McLibel leaflet" is Bob Lambert, a police officer who used the alias Bob Robinson in his five years infiltrating the London Greenpeace group, is revealed in a new book about undercover policing of protest, published next week.

McDonald's famously sued green campaigners over the roughly typed leaflet, in a landmark three-year high court case, that was widely believed to have been a public relations disaster for the corporation. Ultimately the company won a libel battle in which it spent millions on lawyers.

Lambert was deployed by the special demonstration squad (SDS) – a top-secret Metropolitan police unit that targeted political activists between 1968 until 2008, when it was disbanded. He co-wrote the defamatory six-page leaflet in 1986 – and his role in its production has been the subject of an internal Scotland Yard investigation for several months.

Eventually, it's going to turn out there are in fact no anarchists anywhere, and all anarchists are undercover police officers.  In fact, that the police have a laser-like focus on infiltrating anarchist and environmental groups almost exclusively may be revealing about their motives (ie; involving hippie chicks and pot).

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: That is fucking BEAUTIFUL. I hope McDonald's sues the Metro police for damages. That would be AMAZING.
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Re: News Stories Which Highlight the Structure of the System
« Reply #351 on: June 22, 2013, 05:29:11 pm »
I would encourage you all to read "The man who was Thursday"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Was_Thursday

Seems relevant.
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Re: News Stories Which Highlight the Structure of the System
« Reply #352 on: June 22, 2013, 08:41:13 pm »
The blog I got this from commented:

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The plot of my eventual prize-winning novel will feature a man who starts up an anarchist counterintelligence service because of all the cops floating around the movement. Except that it turns out that he, too is a police plant: the cops are worried about a previous group of infiltrators who have gone rogue, assimilated the doctrine and are now seeking to establish multigenerational clan based autonomous communes through various liasions with female activists. Not only does it turn out that all the anarchists are cops: all the cops have been converted to anarchism. As civil power now rests entirely on people now passionately committed to propaganda of the deed and the gratuitous act, lively times ensue.

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Re: News Stories Which Highlight the Structure of the System
« Reply #353 on: June 26, 2013, 06:52:53 pm »
I would encourage you all to read "The man who was Thursday"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Was_Thursday

Seems relevant.

Beat me to it.

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Re: News Stories Which Highlight the Structure of the System
« Reply #354 on: June 30, 2013, 09:49:17 am »
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/06/28/do_republicans_really_need_hispanic_votes_nope.html

Commentary another site:

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Trende proposes that even if Dems get 90% black, Hispanic and Asian, this is likely to depress the Dem share of the white vote to the point where Reps remain competitive for decades. He suggests that, electorally, the ‘Arizona model’ – i.e. apparently go out of your way to piss off Hispanics (he doesn’t put it that way) – is about as likely to work as the ‘Full Rubio’.

I have no opinion about Sean Trende and I don’t usually rely on “Real Clear Politics” for my wonky analysis, to say the least. But, whatever the merits or demerits of his specific deployments of data, this does strike me as noteworthy. It’s the first time I’ve seen a ‘wonky’ Republican suggest maybe extreme racial polarization should be on the table as a strategic option.

Assuming the data supports that model, this will not be a good thing for American politics.

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Re: News Stories Which Highlight the Structure of the System
« Reply #355 on: June 30, 2013, 12:57:08 pm »
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/06/28/do_republicans_really_need_hispanic_votes_nope.html

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Trende proposes that even if Dems get 90% black, Hispanic and Asian, this is likely to depress the Dem share of the white vote to the point where Reps remain competitive for decades. He suggests that, electorally, the ‘Arizona model’ – i.e. apparently go out of your way to piss off Hispanics (he doesn’t put it that way) – is about as likely to work as the ‘Full Rubio’.

I have no opinion about Sean Trende and I don’t usually rely on “Real Clear Politics” for my wonky analysis, to say the least. But, whatever the merits or demerits of his specific deployments of data, this does strike me as noteworthy. It’s the first time I’ve seen a ‘wonky’ Republican suggest maybe extreme racial polarization should be on the table as a strategic option.

Assuming the data supports that model, this will not be a good thing for American politics.

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Re: News Stories Which Highlight the Structure of the System
« Reply #356 on: July 01, 2013, 08:04:17 am »
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/06/28/do_republicans_really_need_hispanic_votes_nope.html

Commentary another site:

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Trende proposes that even if Dems get 90% black, Hispanic and Asian, this is likely to depress the Dem share of the white vote to the point where Reps remain competitive for decades. He suggests that, electorally, the ‘Arizona model’ – i.e. apparently go out of your way to piss off Hispanics (he doesn’t put it that way) – is about as likely to work as the ‘Full Rubio’.

I have no opinion about Sean Trende and I don’t usually rely on “Real Clear Politics” for my wonky analysis, to say the least. But, whatever the merits or demerits of his specific deployments of data, this does strike me as noteworthy. It’s the first time I’ve seen a ‘wonky’ Republican suggest maybe extreme racial polarization should be on the table as a strategic option.

Assuming the data supports that model, this will not be a good thing for American politics.

I very doubt that data from 2012 and beyond will support that, as non-Hispanic White Americans are increasingly identifying with Hispanic White and White/indian Americans.
“I’m guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk,” Charles Wick said. “It was very complicated.”


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Re: News Stories Which Highlight the Structure of the System
« Reply #357 on: July 01, 2013, 08:26:56 am »
I kind of want them to run with it for a while, and suspect the GOP might just do that. With the control exerted by the tea party and such, they might just feel that that base is what needs pandering to. If they do, the results will be awful and glorious.
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Re: News Stories Which Highlight the Structure of the System
« Reply #358 on: July 31, 2013, 12:37:16 pm »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23512840

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Law firms, insurance companies and celebrities are among 94 clients that used private investigators convicted of illegally obtaining information, MPs have said.

The Home Affairs Select Committee published a breakdown of the clients but did not name them individually.

The four rogue investigators concerned were given jail sentences last year.

Committee chairman Keith Vaz said he wanted to name the clients when the committee published its final report.
Private data

The private investigators specialised in illegally obtaining private information from organisations such as banks, utility companies and HM Revenue and Customs.

Because the companies involved could be investigated by the police and the information commissioner, the committee says it has not named them. Instead it lists them by business sector.

The list suggested that private investigators often subcontract work to each other - 16 clients were other private investigation agencies.

Labour MP Mr Vaz said: "When we publish our report into private investigators, we would like to be in a position where we publish the entire list.

"But we don't want to compromise any investigation that the Metropolitan Police may or may not be involved in."

Meanwhile, Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg said he had "a lot of sympathy" with those who wanted big companies who use private detectives to be open about it.

He added he was "very concerned about the role of rogue private investigators" and that the government would be announcing plans to regulate the industry later on Wednesday.

Presented without comment.  I think if you read between the lines, you can see what is going on here.

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Re: News Stories Which Highlight the Structure of the System
« Reply #359 on: August 04, 2013, 09:49:22 am »
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-30/al-qaeda-backers-found-with-u-s-contracts-in-afghanistan.html

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Supporters of the Taliban and al-Qaeda in Afghanistan have been getting U.S. military contracts, and American officials are citing “due process rights” as a reason not to cancel the agreements, according to an independent agency monitoring spending.

The U.S. Army Suspension and Debarment Office has declined to act in 43 such cases, John Sopko, the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction, said today in a letter accompanying a quarterly report to Congress.

“I am deeply troubled that the U.S. military can pursue, attack, and even kill terrorists and their supporters, but that some in the U.S. government believe we cannot prevent these same people from receiving a government contract,” Sopko said.

Hahaha.  So the US can assassinate or indefinitely imprison suspected terrorists, but it cannot break off contracts with them because it might violate their right to due process.  Come on now.