Family of Florida boy killed by Neighborhood Watch seeks arrest

[Prince Glittersnatch III]

If I was in Florida right now I wouldnt think twice about hunting down this guy and defending myself from him.

[Aucoq]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17452878

According to Mr Crump, Martin was on the phone with his 16-year-old girlfriend moments before he was shot. She said Martin was followed by Mr Zimmerman and she heard the beginning of the confrontation, Mr Crump said.

"She blows Zimmerman's absurd self-defence claim out of the water," Mr Crump said.

Mr Crump played a recorded affidavit from the young woman in which she describes Martin's last phone call. She spoke with him repeatedly while he visited Sanford, the Orlando suburb where he died.

According to the affidavit, Martin was walking back from a shop with his phone in his pocket connected to a headset earphone.

He ran to a nearby building to take shelter from the rain and then pulled up his hoodie before he walked the rest of the way back. He then realised that someone was following him.

"I asked Trayvon to run, and he said he was going to walk fast. I told him to run, but he said he was not going to run," ABC News quoted the 16-year-old as saying.

He eventually ran, but Mr Zimmerman caught up with him.

The young woman heard Martin ask Mr Zimmerman repeatedly why he was following him and then heard his headset falling, losing contact with him.

There is so much damning evidence coming out against Zimmerman. . . And it won't mean a damn thing ultimately.  God fucking forbid Florida puts a murderer behind bars.

[LMNO]

"I'm gonna self-defend the shit out of you!"
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[P3nT4gR4m]

The best defence is a good offence?

[Doktor Howl]

Turns out the bastard followed the kid for quite some time before killing him.

Also, 911 recordings have him *chasing* the kid, with the 911 operator telling him to desist.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

So They're basically hoping for riots when they don't do anything to this dickweed so They can bring in more martial law?

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Now they're dicking around arguing whether an actual racial slur was said. Even though the kid was obviously shot for walking while black.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/21/justice/florida-teen-shooting/?hpt=hp_t2

Whether Zimmerman used such language prior to shooting Martin is key, according to CNN Senior Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin. "It's extremely, extremely significant because the federal government is not allowed to prosecute just your ordinary, everyday murder. Two people fighting on the street is not a federal crime. However, if one person shoots another based on racial hostility, racial animus, that does become a federal crime."

[trippinprincezz13]

Now they're dicking around arguing whether an actual racial slur was said. Even though the kid was obviously shot for walking while black.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/21/justice/florida-teen-shooting/?hpt=hp_t2

Whether Zimmerman used such language prior to shooting Martin is key, according to CNN Senior Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin. "It's extremely, extremely significant because the federal government is not allowed to prosecute just your ordinary, everyday murder. Two people fighting on the street is not a federal crime. However, if one person shoots another based on racial hostility, racial animus, that does become a federal crime."

This...is just insane. And pathetic excuses. If this turns out to be a "hate crime" and the federal government needs to get involved, so be it. But that's no excuse as to why he shouldn't be arrested at the local level now. I know this is Florida, but that's been my understanding of how things work here going from State>Federal. Guy's arrested > case goes to District Courts; more serious offense > Superior Court; it becomes a federal matter > U.S. Courts. Unless I'm completely missing something in the State > Federal transfer.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Now they're dicking around arguing whether an actual racial slur was said. Even though the kid was obviously shot for walking while black.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/21/justice/florida-teen-shooting/?hpt=hp_t2

Whether Zimmerman used such language prior to shooting Martin is key, according to CNN Senior Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin. "It's extremely, extremely significant because the federal government is not allowed to prosecute just your ordinary, everyday murder. Two people fighting on the street is not a federal crime. However, if one person shoots another based on racial hostility, racial animus, that does become a federal crime."

This...is just insane. And pathetic excuses. If this turns out to be a "hate crime" and the federal government needs to get involved, so be it. But that's no excuse as to why he shouldn't be arrested at the local level now. I know this is Florida, but that's been my understanding of how things work here going from State>Federal. Guy's arrested > case goes to District Courts; more serious offense > Superior Court; it becomes a federal matter > U.S. Courts. Unless I'm completely missing something in the State > Federal transfer.

I'm starting to think there's no more legal protocol, they just make shit up as they go along.

[LMNO]

Well, it is Florida...

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

Well, it is Florida...

Yes. The Sovereign Republic of Dumbfuck.

[Disco Pickle]

The law as it is written is, IMHO, a sound and a good one. 

It is being horribly misused in this and several other cases, but that doesn't make it a bad law. 

And I know it's fun to make fun of Florida, because we're just sooo zany, but we're not the only state to pass a law like this.  We were just the first.

I'm of the opinion that pacificism codified in law with threat of incarceration if not adhered is more dangerous.

I feel that I should reiterate that ^ that, is an opinion.  Feel free to disagree.

THIS fucker has it coming to him, though.   He was the instigator. 

Fucking sad story.

[Doktor Howl]

The law as it is written is, IMHO, a sound and a good one. 

It is being horribly misused in this and several other cases, but that doesn't make it a bad law. 

And I know it's fun to make fun of Florida, because we're just sooo zany, but we're not the only state to pass a law like this.  We were just the first.

I'm of the opinion that pacificism codified in law with threat of incarceration if not adhered is more dangerous.

I feel that I should reiterate that ^ that, is an opinion.  Feel free to disagree.

THIS fucker has it coming to him, though.   He was the instigator. 

Fucking sad story.

I think the best way to determine if something is self defense is the grand jury process.  It's used every day, and it works.

Being able to stalk down and murder someone, then go home at night, means you have a bad law.

[Disco Pickle]

The law as it is written is, IMHO, a sound and a good one. 

It is being horribly misused in this and several other cases, but that doesn't make it a bad law. 

And I know it's fun to make fun of Florida, because we're just sooo zany, but we're not the only state to pass a law like this.  We were just the first.

I'm of the opinion that pacificism codified in law with threat of incarceration if not adhered is more dangerous.

I feel that I should reiterate that ^ that, is an opinion.  Feel free to disagree.

THIS fucker has it coming to him, though.   He was the instigator. 

Fucking sad story.

I think the best way to determine if something is self defense is the grand jury process.  It's used every day, and it works.

Being able to stalk down and murder someone, then go home at night, means you have a bad law.

The problem is there hasn't been a grand jury convened to hear the facts yet.  The outrage comes from him not being held in custody until that happens, with good reason.

If he's found innocent then well..  I'll have to agree with you.

[Doktor Howl]

The problem is there hasn't been a grand jury convened to hear the facts yet.  The outrage comes from him not being held in custody until that happens, with good reason.

There was more than enough probable cause to make an arrest.

The police have no intention of arresting this bastard.  Why?

Black kid shot in Florida.  That's why.