Excuse me while I vomit.- Trigger Warning for Rape and Rape Culture.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Follow up from the AskARapist thread on reddit- a psychiatrist steps up, and considers the thread potentially dangerous.

Wat

I can't see reddit from here.

Basically it could encourage existing rapists because they're going to be encouraged by the attention they get from having an audience.

I haven't really looked through the Reddit thread in detail but I do have doubts just in that from what I've seen, there's mostly repentant self-loathing guys who want to get something off their chest. Not men who want to shock with their exploits. So I don't know if the type of guys who she's afraid of encouraging are the type who are actually sharing their stories.

The fact that this conversation is being held, in its whole complexity, i think this is good. Our society needs to talk about sex, rape, consent. ECH fucking nailed it with our weird sexual culture. Repression repression SIXTY FOOT BOOBS ON BILLBOARD repression repression.

I'm not a psychiatrist, but I'm pretty skeptical of his rationale. Repression and secrecy haven't ever helped anything before, why would it now?

Yeah, that's what I've been thinking.

The tendency among humans when a vile act is being discussed is to get religion over it.  They have to go completely overboard, so that people will understand just how much the individual speaking hates it.

This is also why you hear people say that so-and-so that has been accused of a particularly nasty crime should be killed without trial (Khara springs to mind, here), which is of course vile in its own right.

And sometimes, you just get this reaction that it's too nasty to talk about, because people might get ideas or some such ridiculous shit...While the fact is, if a that type of person didn't already have "ideas", the issue wouldn't exist in the first place.

So I'm saying instead to drag the fucking thing by the heels, out into the light of day where everyone can see it.  Secrecy is the enemy of truth, and truth is about the only way to deal with this sort of thing.

[hooplala]

Follow up from the AskARapist thread on reddit- a psychiatrist steps up, and considers the thread potentially dangerous.

Wat

I can't see reddit from here.

Basically it could encourage existing rapists because they're going to be encouraged by the attention they get from having an audience.

I haven't really looked through the Reddit thread in detail but I do have doubts just in that from what I've seen, there's mostly repentant self-loathing guys who want to get something off their chest. Not men who want to shock with their exploits. So I don't know if the type of guys who she's afraid of encouraging are the type who are actually sharing their stories.

The fact that this conversation is being held, in its whole complexity, i think this is good. Our society needs to talk about sex, rape, consent. ECH fucking nailed it with our weird sexual culture. Repression repression SIXTY FOOT BOOBS ON BILLBOARD repression repression.

I'm not a psychiatrist, but I'm pretty skeptical of his rationale. Repression and secrecy haven't ever helped anything before, why would it now?

Yeah, that's what I've been thinking.

The tendency among humans when a vile act is being discussed is to get religion over it.  They have to go completely overboard, so that people will understand just how much the individual speaking hates it.

This is also why you hear people say that so-and-so that has been accused of a particularly nasty crime should be killed without trial (Khara springs to mind, here), which is of course vile in its own right.

And sometimes, you just get this reaction that it's too nasty to talk about, because people might get ideas or some such ridiculous shit...While the fact is, if a that type of person didn't already have "ideas", the issue wouldn't exist in the first place.

So I'm saying instead to drag the fucking thing by the heels, out into the light of day where everyone can see it.  Secrecy is the enemy of truth, and truth is about the only way to deal with this sort of thing.

It really disgusts me when people say that so-and-so should be executed without trial, strictly based on being accused of the crime, as if being accused was the actual verdict, and I hear it a lot.  Apparently a lot of people are still not aware of how many false accusations still exist out there.  Khara does this? 

[LMNO]

I think the last big blow up was over an accused pedophile.

Although, she's not the only person on PD who has advocated a "just kill them" approach to these kinds of crimes.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

It really disgusts me when people say that so-and-so should be executed without trial, strictly based on being accused of the crime, as if being accused was the actual verdict, and I hear it a lot.  Apparently a lot of people are still not aware of how many false accusations still exist out there.  Khara does this?

Khara went off about an accused pedophile.  When asked why the accused should not get a trial, she said that nobody who would do such a thing deserved a trial.  When it was mentioned that the trial is there to find out IF the person did that thing, she threw a fit about how she just felt that way because pedos are bad.  And then she flounced.  Again.

She doesn't do it anymore, as she was banned a few months back.

[hooplala]

Jesus.  I obviously missed that.

Yeah pedos are very touchy subjects for a lot of people... but still... if we don't have a justice system we might as well just send them all out to the wall to take the black.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Jesus.  I obviously missed that.

Yeah pedos are very touchy subjects for a lot of people... but still... if we don't have a justice system we might as well just send them all out to the wall to take the black.

Well, it's like I said earlier:  The American mindset REQUIRES that you adopt a hair-shirt, summary punishment system for certain crimes, or you're obviously some kind of sympathyzer.

I'd like to blame this on the various red scares of the 20th century, but the fact is that this has been part of our culture since the puritan days.

[hooplala]

Jesus.  I obviously missed that.

Yeah pedos are very touchy subjects for a lot of people... but still... if we don't have a justice system we might as well just send them all out to the wall to take the black.

Well, it's like I said earlier:  The American mindset REQUIRES that you adopt a hair-shirt, summary punishment system for certain crimes, or you're obviously some kind of sympathyzer.

I'd like to blame this on the various red scares of the 20th century, but the fact is that this has been part of our culture since the puritan days.

Probably even earlier... I'm no history expert, but I've noticed a trend in that lynch mobs and those who respect due process rarely seem to mix.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Jesus.  I obviously missed that.

Yeah pedos are very touchy subjects for a lot of people... but still... if we don't have a justice system we might as well just send them all out to the wall to take the black.

Well, it's like I said earlier:  The American mindset REQUIRES that you adopt a hair-shirt, summary punishment system for certain crimes, or you're obviously some kind of sympathyzer.

I'd like to blame this on the various red scares of the 20th century, but the fact is that this has been part of our culture since the puritan days.

Probably even earlier... I'm no history expert, but I've noticed a trend in that lynch mobs and those who respect due process rarely seem to mix.

Well, that's everywhere, but American sort of refined it with tarring & feathering anyone that didn't hate King George III enough.  And it's been party time ever since.

[hooplala]

Jesus.  I obviously missed that.

Yeah pedos are very touchy subjects for a lot of people... but still... if we don't have a justice system we might as well just send them all out to the wall to take the black.

Well, it's like I said earlier:  The American mindset REQUIRES that you adopt a hair-shirt, summary punishment system for certain crimes, or you're obviously some kind of sympathyzer.

I'd like to blame this on the various red scares of the 20th century, but the fact is that this has been part of our culture since the puritan days.

Probably even earlier... I'm no history expert, but I've noticed a trend in that lynch mobs and those who respect due process rarely seem to mix.

Well, that's everywhere, but American sort of refined it with tarring & feathering anyone that didn't hate King George III enough.  And it's been party time ever since.

I have to say I find tarring and feathering fascinating.

I wonder if tarring on its own was a thing for a while, and then some cruel bastard with a strange streak of humor was like "Hey, it would be really fucking awesome if we added feathers to this, while the pitch is still hot and sticky."

It's really horrible, and yet there is a hint of whimsy... or am I the only one who sees this?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I wonder if tarring on its own was a thing for a while, and then some cruel bastard with a strange streak of humor was like "Hey, it would be really fucking awesome if we added feathers to this, while the pitch is still hot and sticky."

It's really horrible, and yet there is a hint of whimsy... or am I the only one who sees this?

There were two methods of doing it, "torso" and "pitchcapping" which was done mostly by British troops to suspected Irish troublemakers, in which the head was shaved and tarred, feathered, and then the feathers lit on fire.

Interestingly enough, there are no recorded cases of the normal method resulting in death.  Also, the practice went on well into the last century, and was used against labor unionists, and in one truly American™ case, against one John Meints, when he didn't show support for a WWI war bond drive.

[hooplala]

I wonder if tarring on its own was a thing for a while, and then some cruel bastard with a strange streak of humor was like "Hey, it would be really fucking awesome if we added feathers to this, while the pitch is still hot and sticky."

It's really horrible, and yet there is a hint of whimsy... or am I the only one who sees this?

There were two methods of doing it, "torso" and "pitchcapping" which was done mostly by British troops to suspected Irish troublemakers, in which the head was shaved and tarred, feathered, and then the feathers lit on fire.

Interestingly enough, there are no recorded cases of the normal method resulting in death.  Also, the practice went on well into the last century, and was used against labor unionists, and in one truly American™ case, against one John Meints, when he didn't show support for a WWI war bond drive.

Interesting... your info prodded me to go reading some more, apparently tar in old times wasn't as hot when applied... that makes the whole thing even cuter.  "Let's add feathers!"

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I wonder if tarring on its own was a thing for a while, and then some cruel bastard with a strange streak of humor was like "Hey, it would be really fucking awesome if we added feathers to this, while the pitch is still hot and sticky."

It's really horrible, and yet there is a hint of whimsy... or am I the only one who sees this?

There were two methods of doing it, "torso" and "pitchcapping" which was done mostly by British troops to suspected Irish troublemakers, in which the head was shaved and tarred, feathered, and then the feathers lit on fire.

Interestingly enough, there are no recorded cases of the normal method resulting in death.  Also, the practice went on well into the last century, and was used against labor unionists, and in one truly American™ case, against one John Meints, when he didn't show support for a WWI war bond drive.

Interesting... your info prodded me to go reading some more, apparently tar in old times wasn't as hot when applied... that makes the whole thing even cuter.  "Let's add feathers!"

Well, they used pine tar, not petroleum tar.

Burns resulted, but not badly enough to kill.  Just badly enough to scar you for life.

[hooplala]

I wonder if tarring on its own was a thing for a while, and then some cruel bastard with a strange streak of humor was like "Hey, it would be really fucking awesome if we added feathers to this, while the pitch is still hot and sticky."

It's really horrible, and yet there is a hint of whimsy... or am I the only one who sees this?

There were two methods of doing it, "torso" and "pitchcapping" which was done mostly by British troops to suspected Irish troublemakers, in which the head was shaved and tarred, feathered, and then the feathers lit on fire.

Interestingly enough, there are no recorded cases of the normal method resulting in death.  Also, the practice went on well into the last century, and was used against labor unionists, and in one truly American™ case, against one John Meints, when he didn't show support for a WWI war bond drive.

Interesting... your info prodded me to go reading some more, apparently tar in old times wasn't as hot when applied... that makes the whole thing even cuter.  "Let's add feathers!"

Well, they used pine tar, not petroleum tar.

Burns resulted, but not badly enough to kill.  Just badly enough to scar you for life.

Like I said, cute.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I wonder if tarring on its own was a thing for a while, and then some cruel bastard with a strange streak of humor was like "Hey, it would be really fucking awesome if we added feathers to this, while the pitch is still hot and sticky."

It's really horrible, and yet there is a hint of whimsy... or am I the only one who sees this?

There were two methods of doing it, "torso" and "pitchcapping" which was done mostly by British troops to suspected Irish troublemakers, in which the head was shaved and tarred, feathered, and then the feathers lit on fire.

Interestingly enough, there are no recorded cases of the normal method resulting in death.  Also, the practice went on well into the last century, and was used against labor unionists, and in one truly American™ case, against one John Meints, when he didn't show support for a WWI war bond drive.

Interesting... your info prodded me to go reading some more, apparently tar in old times wasn't as hot when applied... that makes the whole thing even cuter.  "Let's add feathers!"

Well, they used pine tar, not petroleum tar.

Burns resulted, but not badly enough to kill.  Just badly enough to scar you for life.

Like I said, cute.

We are nothing if not an adorable, fun-loving people.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Follow up from the AskARapist thread on reddit- a psychiatrist steps up, and considers the thread potentially dangerous.

Wat

I can't see reddit from here.

Basically it could encourage existing rapists because they're going to be encouraged by the attention they get from having an audience.

I haven't really looked through the Reddit thread in detail but I do have doubts just in that from what I've seen, there's mostly repentant self-loathing guys who want to get something off their chest. Not men who want to shock with their exploits. So I don't know if the type of guys who she's afraid of encouraging are the type who are actually sharing their stories.

The fact that this conversation is being held, in its whole complexity, i think this is good. Our society needs to talk about sex, rape, consent. ECH fucking nailed it with our weird sexual culture. Repression repression SIXTY FOOT BOOBS ON BILLBOARD repression repression.

I'm not a psychiatrist, but I'm pretty skeptical of his rationale. Repression and secrecy haven't ever helped anything before, why would it now?

Yeah, that's what I've been thinking.

The tendency among humans when a vile act is being discussed is to get religion over it.  They have to go completely overboard, so that people will understand just how much the individual speaking hates it.

This is also why you hear people say that so-and-so that has been accused of a particularly nasty crime should be killed without trial (Khara springs to mind, here), which is of course vile in its own right.

And sometimes, you just get this reaction that it's too nasty to talk about, because people might get ideas or some such ridiculous shit...While the fact is, if a that type of person didn't already have "ideas", the issue wouldn't exist in the first place.

So I'm saying instead to drag the fucking thing by the heels, out into the light of day where everyone can see it.  Secrecy is the enemy of truth, and truth is about the only way to deal with this sort of thing.

Absolfuckinglutely.