WARNING: CONTAINS FEMINISM

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

This article is old, but I'd never read it before and it's really moving.

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/losing-my-religion-for-equality-20090714-dk0v.html

The carefully selected verses found in the Holy Scriptures to justify the superiority of men owe more to time and place - and the determination of male leaders to hold onto their influence - than eternal truths. Similar biblical excerpts could be found to support the approval of slavery and the timid acquiescence to oppressive rulers.

I am also familiar with vivid descriptions in the same Scriptures in which women are revered as pre-eminent leaders. During the years of the early Christian church women served as deacons, priests, bishops, apostles, teachers and prophets. It wasn't until the fourth century that dominant Christian leaders, all men, twisted and distorted Holy Scriptures to perpetuate their ascendant positions within the religious hierarchy.

The truth is that male religious leaders have had - and still have - an option to interpret holy teachings either to exalt or subjugate women. They have, for their own selfish ends, overwhelmingly chosen the latter. Their continuing choice provides the foundation or justification for much of the pervasive persecution and abuse of women throughout the world. This is in clear violation not just of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights but also the teachings of Jesus Christ, the Apostle Paul, Moses and the prophets, Muhammad, and founders of other great religions - all of whom have called for proper and equitable treatment of all the children of God. It is time we had the courage to challenge these views.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/losing-my-religion-for-equality-20090714-dk0v.html#ixzz2JHuHHBfm

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Also, the Apocrypha deals pretty extensively with the role of women in society, and the people debating it come to the conclusion that women should have equality in men in all social rights and responsibilities.

The Catholic church isn't a big fan of the Apocrypha, and for some reason it does not appear in their bible, though it appears in almost every other major sect's bibles.  The KJV, for example, includes it.

[Pæs]

What I got out of that was that God was the first ever victim of a man-in-the-middle attack and probably should have looked into some form of message authentication so as not to have his communication hijacked.

[P3nT4gR4m]

God was shit at communications in general. That's prolly a large part of why he had to resign his CEO position.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

What I got out of that was that God was the first ever victim of a man-in-the-middle attack and probably should have looked into some form of message authentication so as not to have his communication hijacked.

Balls.  If you accept the bible as literal truth, then Lucifer didn't fall and he didn't jump, he was PUSHED.  And God was more than a little ham-fisted in his dealings with US, after THAT, the only proofs of which I need offer are:

The Garden of Eden
The story of Lot
The book of Job
and
The flood.

[Pæs]

It's like people posting sagely advice to Facebook, but on a dodgy connection, so there's a /b/tard modifying all their posts.

"You've gotta dance like there's nobody watching, love like you'll never be hurt, sing like there's nobody listening and live like it's heaven on earth AND STAY IN THE DAMN KITCHEN LOL"

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

What I got out of that was that God was the first ever victim of a man-in-the-middle attack and probably should have looked into some form of message authentication so as not to have his communication hijacked.

Balls.  If you accept the bible as literal truth, then Lucifer didn't fall and he didn't jump, he was PUSHED.  And God was more than a little ham-fisted in his dealings with US, after THAT, the only proofs of which I need offer are:

The Garden of Eden
The story of Lot
The book of Job
and
The flood.

I'm pretty convinced that the original point of all that stuff was that we'd better treat each other right, because God is fucking psycho.
That, or it's a bunch of allegories for astrology stuff. Old Hebrews loved astrology. 

[The Good Reverend Roger]

What I got out of that was that God was the first ever victim of a man-in-the-middle attack and probably should have looked into some form of message authentication so as not to have his communication hijacked.

Balls.  If you accept the bible as literal truth, then Lucifer didn't fall and he didn't jump, he was PUSHED.  And God was more than a little ham-fisted in his dealings with US, after THAT, the only proofs of which I need offer are:

The Garden of Eden
The story of Lot
The book of Job
and
The flood.

I'm pretty convinced that the original point of all that stuff was that we'd better treat each other right, because God is fucking psycho.
That, or it's a bunch of allegories for astrology stuff. Old Hebrews loved astrology.

The Garden of Eden and the flood stuff is directly ripped off from the Sumerians, anyway.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

What I got out of that was that God was the first ever victim of a man-in-the-middle attack and probably should have looked into some form of message authentication so as not to have his communication hijacked.

Balls.  If you accept the bible as literal truth, then Lucifer didn't fall and he didn't jump, he was PUSHED.  And God was more than a little ham-fisted in his dealings with US, after THAT, the only proofs of which I need offer are:

The Garden of Eden
The story of Lot
The book of Job
and
The flood.

I'm pretty convinced that the original point of all that stuff was that we'd better treat each other right, because God is fucking psycho.
That, or it's a bunch of allegories for astrology stuff. Old Hebrews loved astrology.

The Garden of Eden and the flood stuff is directly ripped off from the Sumerians, anyway.

Yep. It would explain a lot of the nonsensical stuff.

[Trivial]

Also, the Apocrypha deals pretty extensively with the role of women in society, and the people debating it come to the conclusion that women should have equality in men in all social rights and responsibilities.

The Catholic church isn't a big fan of the Apocrypha, and for some reason it does not appear in their bible, though it appears in almost every other major sect's bibles.  The KJV, for example, includes it.

I think you have sects reversed.  They kept it for the whole praying for the dead part so that they can explain purgatory.

*Edit: just learned there are many books called apocrypha, depends which one you want*

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Also, the Apocrypha deals pretty extensively with the role of women in society, and the people debating it come to the conclusion that women should have equality in men in all social rights and responsibilities.

The Catholic church isn't a big fan of the Apocrypha, and for some reason it does not appear in their bible, though it appears in almost every other major sect's bibles.  The KJV, for example, includes it.

I think you have sects reversed.  They kept it for the whole praying for the dead part so that they can explain purgatory.

Nope.  I have a KJV, and it has the apocrypha.  The Catholics typically just made shit up and explained it via papal infallibility (or "bull" as they and I both like to call it).

Not that I'm vouching for the accuracy of any given sect, mind you.

ETA:  It's been years since I looked in a Catholic bible, and it may be there, but I don't remember it if it was.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Also, the Apocrypha deals pretty extensively with the role of women in society, and the people debating it come to the conclusion that women should have equality in men in all social rights and responsibilities.

The Catholic church isn't a big fan of the Apocrypha, and for some reason it does not appear in their bible, though it appears in almost every other major sect's bibles.  The KJV, for example, includes it.

Which books? The Catholic Old Testament has several more books in it than KJV.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible#Apocryphal_or_deuterocanonical_books

[Nephew Twiddleton]

I think that the confusion may be that the Catholic Bible doesn't consider them Apocrypha, but rather, canon.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Also, the Apocrypha deals pretty extensively with the role of women in society, and the people debating it come to the conclusion that women should have equality in men in all social rights and responsibilities.

The Catholic church isn't a big fan of the Apocrypha, and for some reason it does not appear in their bible, though it appears in almost every other major sect's bibles.  The KJV, for example, includes it.

Which books? The Catholic Old Testament has several more books in it than KJV.

The Apocrypha.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_apocrypha

Turns out that the Catholics accept some of the apocrypha.  Betcha it's not the part I was discussing.  I'll check when I get home.