Sorry for not replying to your PM right away, von. As you can see there was a lot of interest in how and whether you'd bounce back. Also, it isn't really a "now what?" kind of conversation, more of a thing where I think throwing both of our experiences out there and see where it takes us, hopefully moving towards something that will be useful not only for our own damaged brainmeats but also those of others.
Before we can do that, however, I think you might want to clear the air a little bit. As someone who's needed therapy on a few occasions for real problems, I'm still pretty put off by your flippant attitude towards mental illness and its treatment, and you went full-on retard at a lot of other folks here.
Sitting in this uncomfortable feeling of acknowledging you did something wrong, having the emotion instead of running away with it, is one of the first steps to stop being a shitforbrains. Mending fences is part of it, too, although no one has an obligation to forgive you. (See also the redemption/forgiveness thread)
Awesome...I'll attempt to desconstruct and reply:
Sorry for not replying to your PM right away, von.
I cannot deride you for slowness, especially since my message consisted of only two words in a vague frame of reference.
Also, it isn't really a "now what?" kind of conversation...
You proposed and idea; I was simply asking for clarification of what variety of information is needed, aims of the project so that relevant information can be queried, and any and all other minutiae you think would have been relevant.
Before we can do that, however, I think you might want to clear the air a little bit.
I've already validated so many people's bets concerning my next moves, shall I also validate /b/earman and force the lot of you to pay him $5 NM dollars a piece for rendering an apology?
In reality, I'm not particularly remorseful over my actions -- perhaps a bit embarassed at my ineffective reactions, but not remorseful.
As someone who's needed therapy on a few occasions for real problems, I'm still pretty put off by your flippant attitude towards mental illness and its treatment...
As someone else who's been treated involuntarily on multiple occasions, I can tell you quite honestly that my flippant attitude towards mental illness is in reality thinly veiled violent antipathy towards psychology and all of its practitioners. Yay for you having your issues resolved by psychology, but I'm not going to validate a methodology that has me still twitching from akathesia due to petty offenses such as cutting my hair unfasionably or smoking marijuana.
Psychology helped you with traumas -- psychology caused some of mine; we will never agree here...
On a side note, never make argument from anecdote -- someone else can always counter with their own.
...and you went full-on retard at a lot of other folks here.
Heh, yes I did -- I am quite embarassed that I was so ineffective. I'll need to be more subtle next time...
Sitting in this uncomfortable feeling of acknowledging you did something wrong...
It
is uncomfortable acknowledging that I didn't forsee manual registration validation -- I_think_ur_gay from torpark, china would have been a consummate sockpuppet. I need to lurk moar and see how this community has dealt with attacks in the past, what has been waged against it, and what would blindside it -- so, yes, admitting that I engaged in poor tactical planning is very uncomfortable /joke
In all seriousness, I'm not so much remorseful about my actions as I am to their ineffectiveness as being tools of winning an argument...
Mending fences is part of it...
grand...! If I were seeking a restoration of social capital among this community, I would have waited 3 or so weeks for this whole ordeal to die down, read up on critical theory a bit more in order to socially integrate a bit more, and then registered a sockpuppet with more valid credentials than mr._ur_gay. I would have had tabula rasa overnight and wouldn't have had the terribly difficult experience of playing mr.evilracist asshole like I am now -- it would be far simpler, and I could even have poked fun at mr.vonzwietracht that way...
...although no one has an obligation to forgive you.
Restitution is payed so that one can be reintegrated into a community. In that any tail-tucking I do as social payment may not explicitly be accepted, there appears to be a diminished motivation for me to even hazard making that payment in the first place. Secondly, in that I really have no motive to continue in this community as anything other than a fringe racist troll, I have not motive to seek forgiveness, and therefore no obligation to pay for it either.
