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How We Protect At-Risk Kids.

Started by Doktor Howl, August 09, 2013, 03:10:03 PM

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AFK

Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on August 12, 2013, 06:38:25 PM
Holder just said "diversion" on the TV and made me  :argh!:

Thanks, RWHN!


Funny, I heard it and it made me  :banana:
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: The End on August 12, 2013, 06:53:15 PM
Quote from: Aloha Ackbar on August 12, 2013, 06:41:05 PM
So the only reason that alcohol won't be banned in the US is because of lobbyists, and not because we tried that and found that Prohibition didn't work?


It's the reason a proposal would never make it to a point where you could even discuss the merits of the proposal.

Hobbyists get in the way.  If it's not the model train assholes, it's those crochet spags.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: The End on August 12, 2013, 06:54:49 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on August 12, 2013, 06:38:25 PM
Holder just said "diversion" on the TV and made me  :argh!:

Thanks, RWHN!


Funny, I heard it and it made me  :banana:

Yep.  Now we can fuck people over for life and pretend we didn't.
Molon Lube

AFK

No, that's not how diversion works.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Doktor Howl

Molon Lube

Q. G. Pennyworth

Yeah, Dok, no one uses the threat of a felony conviction and life-long discrimination to make kids SHUT UP and toe the line!

tyrannosaurus vex

Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 12, 2013, 06:58:30 PM
Quote from: The End on August 12, 2013, 06:58:07 PM
No, that's not how diversion works.

So, no records are kept?

Silly Discordians. You keep assuming an imaginary distinction between "theory" and "practice," and another one between "rhetoric" and "meaning." If you'd just Wise Up, you'd have a lot less to worry about.
Evil and Unfeeling Arse-Flenser From The City of the Damned.

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: The End on August 12, 2013, 06:53:15 PM
Quote from: Aloha Ackbar on August 12, 2013, 06:41:05 PM
So the only reason that alcohol won't be banned in the US is because of lobbyists, and not because we tried that and found that Prohibition didn't work?


It's the reason a proposal would never make it to a point where you could even discuss the merits of the proposal.

But no one would make the proposal in the first place, because Prohibition didn't work.
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
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Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Aloha Ackbar on August 12, 2013, 07:05:53 PM
Quote from: The End on August 12, 2013, 06:53:15 PM
Quote from: Aloha Ackbar on August 12, 2013, 06:41:05 PM
So the only reason that alcohol won't be banned in the US is because of lobbyists, and not because we tried that and found that Prohibition didn't work?


It's the reason a proposal would never make it to a point where you could even discuss the merits of the proposal.

But no one would make the proposal in the first place, because Prohibition didn't work.

Hobbyists fucked everything up.  :(
Molon Lube

AFK

Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 12, 2013, 06:58:30 PM
Quote from: The End on August 12, 2013, 06:58:07 PM
No, that's not how diversion works.

So, no records are kept?


Records are kept when you get your teeth cleaned.


Yeah, obviously if you are diverted to a treatment program, that program is going to have records on your services there.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: The End on August 12, 2013, 07:08:50 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 12, 2013, 06:58:30 PM
Quote from: The End on August 12, 2013, 06:58:07 PM
No, that's not how diversion works.

So, no records are kept?


Records are kept when you get your teeth cleaned.


Yeah, obviously if you are diverted to a treatment program, that program is going to have records on your services there.

Will the courts?  Will they show up on a background check?
Molon Lube

AFK

Quote from: Aloha Ackbar on August 12, 2013, 07:05:53 PM
Quote from: The End on August 12, 2013, 06:53:15 PM
Quote from: Aloha Ackbar on August 12, 2013, 06:41:05 PM
So the only reason that alcohol won't be banned in the US is because of lobbyists, and not because we tried that and found that Prohibition didn't work?


It's the reason a proposal would never make it to a point where you could even discuss the merits of the proposal.

But no one would make the proposal in the first place, because Prohibition didn't work.


Depends on who and how you are defining "work".
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: The End on August 12, 2013, 07:10:28 PM
Quote from: Aloha Ackbar on August 12, 2013, 07:05:53 PM
Quote from: The End on August 12, 2013, 06:53:15 PM
Quote from: Aloha Ackbar on August 12, 2013, 06:41:05 PM
So the only reason that alcohol won't be banned in the US is because of lobbyists, and not because we tried that and found that Prohibition didn't work?


It's the reason a proposal would never make it to a point where you could even discuss the merits of the proposal.

But no one would make the proposal in the first place, because Prohibition didn't work.


Depends on who and how you are defining "work".


:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Molon Lube

AFK

Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 12, 2013, 07:09:34 PM
Quote from: The End on August 12, 2013, 07:08:50 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 12, 2013, 06:58:30 PM
Quote from: The End on August 12, 2013, 06:58:07 PM
No, that's not how diversion works.

So, no records are kept?


Records are kept when you get your teeth cleaned.


Yeah, obviously if you are diverted to a treatment program, that program is going to have records on your services there.

Will the courts?  Will they show up on a background check?


It's going to depend on the crime, and will certainly vary from state to state.  Here in Maine youth who are arrested for a non-violent, simple possession drug crime will not have anything on their record if they successfully complete a diversion program. 


Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Doktor Howl

Let's see...

Mafia rises to new heights of power:  Check.
Americans go to jail for something that's really their own business:  Check.
The entire law enforcement system in America becomes a joke:  Check.

Yes, by some standards, prohibition of alcohol was fucking BRILLIANT.

Molon Lube