People who don't like children

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

May I suggest that at one point or another, EVERY person hated their childhood?

Not to derail your thesis, but childhood sucking seems to be fairly universal.

Actually, no. Not everybody hated their childhood, interestingly, or hated being a kid.

Nonetheless, those are different things from hating your past self, particularly when you carry that self-loathing into adulthood. It's interesting, because people can more or less like who they are as adults and yet still carry around a load of unresolved loathing for who they were as children, even quite young children, blaming themselves for mistakes and even abuse. They often compartmentalize, too, viewing that past self as almost a different person. It's pretty complicated.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

WHAT ON EARTH ARE WE ALL DOING UP RIGHT NOW? DO WE KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

WHAT ON EARTH ARE WE ALL DOING UP RIGHT NOW? DO WE KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS?

I'm listening to my techs howl like the damned over push-to-talk.

It's you, me, LMNO, and Cain in the middle of the fucking night.  Gang's all here. 

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

WHAT ON EARTH ARE WE ALL DOING UP RIGHT NOW? DO WE KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS?

I'm listening to my techs howl like the damned over push-to-talk.

It's you, me, LMNO, and Cain in the middle of the fucking night.  Gang's all here. 

It's like the dark forces are calling us to the board. 

I just got back from the hospital, for reasons that will go unexplained here. Suffice it to say that everyone is fine.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

WHAT ON EARTH ARE WE ALL DOING UP RIGHT NOW? DO WE KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS?

I'm listening to my techs howl like the damned over push-to-talk.

It's you, me, LMNO, and Cain in the middle of the fucking night.  Gang's all here. 

It's like the dark forces are calling us to the board. 

I just got back from the hospital, for reasons that will go unexplained here. Suffice it to say that everyone is fine.

Burn ward theme park?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Jesus.

I used to handle over-nighters WAY better than this.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

WHAT ON EARTH ARE WE ALL DOING UP RIGHT NOW? DO WE KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS?

I'm listening to my techs howl like the damned over push-to-talk.

It's you, me, LMNO, and Cain in the middle of the fucking night.  Gang's all here. 

It's like the dark forces are calling us to the board. 

I just got back from the hospital, for reasons that will go unexplained here. Suffice it to say that everyone is fine.

Burn ward theme park?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Jesus.

I used to handle over-nighters WAY better than this.

Yeah, I just got all kinds of cranky and yelled at my children and took EFO's tea away and poured it down the drain. Tea. At one thirty in the morning.

[Reginald Ret]

May I suggest that at one point or another, EVERY person hated their childhood?

Not to derail your thesis, but childhood sucking seems to be fairly universal.

Actually, no. Not everybody hated their childhood, interestingly, or hated being a kid.

Nonetheless, those are different things from hating your past self, particularly when you carry that self-loathing into adulthood. It's interesting, because people can more or less like who they are as adults and yet still carry around a load of unresolved loathing for who they were as children, even quite young children, blaming themselves for mistakes and even abuse. They often compartmentalize, too, viewing that past self as almost a different person. It's pretty complicated.

Hang on, i understand the need to stop blaming yourself for abuse or shit you had no say in, but why should you stop blaming your younger self for mistakes?
Oh, oh! I just asked that question of my adult self and i did not get the answer i was expecting. Mistakes are learning moments, not crimes. Well sometimes they are crimes in the legal sense, but never in the sense that punishment is a useful response.
Shit, I got some shit to work through.

[Suu]

I will often say that I hate kids, however, I don't actually HATE them or don't like them, I just don't particularly like being around them. I'm definitely uncomfortable with babies and elementary age kids, and I do not want any for myself. I'm not going to go out of the way to steer clear of them, though. They're kinda everywhere, and I do have friends that are reproducing. I just find that I particularly have no interest in making an effort to get to know children or making them a part of my lives if I do not have to. There are kids in my apartment building, one of them in a constant screamer which can get rather annoying, but I'm not about to pack up and leave because of it.

[Cardinal Pizza Deliverance.]

Well. I hated my entire childhood. I can't think of a single good memory. Even the okay ones are filled with fear and hate and loathing. I realized that's why I didn't like kids, at some point.

Not just that I wasn't treated properly as a kid but because of that and what followed, I had NO IDEA how to interact with kids in a healthy way and I don't want to inadvertently contribute to their future therapy sessions.

Now I just don't like the loud ones, their voices fall into the instant-headache range. And I don't like the poorly behaved ones but that is the parent's flaw, not the kid so much.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

May I suggest that at one point or another, EVERY person hated their childhood?

Not to derail your thesis, but childhood sucking seems to be fairly universal.

Actually, no. Not everybody hated their childhood, interestingly, or hated being a kid.

Nonetheless, those are different things from hating your past self, particularly when you carry that self-loathing into adulthood. It's interesting, because people can more or less like who they are as adults and yet still carry around a load of unresolved loathing for who they were as children, even quite young children, blaming themselves for mistakes and even abuse. They often compartmentalize, too, viewing that past self as almost a different person. It's pretty complicated.

Hang on, i understand the need to stop blaming yourself for abuse or shit you had no say in, but why should you stop blaming your younger self for mistakes?
Oh, oh! I just asked that question of my adult self and i did not get the answer i was expecting. Mistakes are learning moments, not crimes. Well sometimes they are crimes in the legal sense, but never in the sense that punishment is a useful response.
Shit, I got some shit to work through.

Bingo! I love those "aha!" moments.

[Cain]

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[Suu]

I never hated my childhood. I had a good one. I hated parts of it DURING the matter, but that was because I was an overdramatic teenager. I just have had no real desire to have children since I was about...7-8? I decided pretty early on.

What I also can't stand are the people who constantly question my motives for not wanting kids. Nigel is not doing this, she already said some people just don't want them, but when I have friends and family STILL telling me "Oh, you'll change your mind!" and "It's different when they're your own!" or "Don't you want a kid to carry on your husband/boyfriend's last name?" I just think that's fucking petty a hell. Do not try to change my mind based on this ancient idea that women should reproduce for their husbands. Some of us just want to have a good career that may involve travel and research, and cannot be bogged down by having children. They just aren't for me, and don't fit my proposed lifestyle. This is when people call me "selfish" that I don't want to reproduce and "share my life" with kids, and I usually tell them to fuck off. There's tons of wonderful parents in this world. I just can't see myself being one of them.

I have, however, resigned to the fact that I will be that "awesome crazy aunt."

[Reginald Ret]

I never hated my childhood. I had a good one. I hated parts of it DURING the matter, but that was because I was an overdramatic teenager. I just have had no real desire to have children since I was about...7-8? I decided pretty early on.

What I also can't stand are the people who constantly question my motives for not wanting kids. Nigel is not doing this, she already said some people just don't want them, but when I have friends and family STILL telling me "Oh, you'll change your mind!" and "It's different when they're your own!" or "Don't you want a kid to carry on your husband/boyfriend's last name?" I just think that's fucking petty a hell. Do not try to change my mind based on this ancient idea that women should reproduce for their husbands. Some of us just want to have a good career that may involve travel and research, and cannot be bogged down by having children. They just aren't for me, and don't fit my proposed lifestyle. This is when people call me "selfish" that I don't want to reproduce and "share my life" with kids, and I usually tell them to fuck off. There's tons of wonderful parents in this world. I just can't see myself being one of them.

I have, however, resigned to the fact that I will be that "awesome crazy aunt."

Awwww you'd be a great crazy aunt!