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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1620 on: September 25, 2019, 05:58:18 pm »
Johnson has said he would prorogue Parliament again if this happened.

In which case this is heading for "contempt for everything" territory.

What happens if parliament says "no"?

Same rules apply as before. So long as the Cabinet tells the Queen to do it, it happens.

But it would be even more obvious that Boris is doing this to avoid Parliamentary oversight in that case, so it would likely be declared null by the courts again.  In that case, Parliament would actually have to do something unless they want to spend all their time shuffing between the Supreme Court and Westminster.

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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1621 on: September 25, 2019, 05:59:54 pm »
Johnson has said he would prorogue Parliament again if this happened.

In which case this is heading for "contempt for everything" territory.

What happens if parliament says "no"?

Same rules apply as before. So long as the Cabinet tells the Queen to do it, it happens.

But it would be even more obvious that Boris is doing this to avoid Parliamentary oversight in that case, so it would likely be declared null by the courts again.  In that case, Parliament would actually have to do something unless they want to spend all their time shuffing between the Supreme Court and Westminster.

We really need to revisit that Charles the First thing.  You guys and America both. 
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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1622 on: September 25, 2019, 09:20:44 pm »
Let them eat cake.

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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1623 on: September 25, 2019, 09:24:34 pm »
Cake comes from the EU. We will eat sovereignty.

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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1624 on: September 25, 2019, 09:31:54 pm »
So what you have is one set of rules for one side, and no rules at all for the other side.

The two options are:

1.  Take it like a bitch, and

2.  Start chopping heads off.
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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1625 on: September 25, 2019, 09:38:45 pm »
So what you have is one set of rules for one side, and no rules at all for the other side.

The two options are:

1.  Take it like a bitch, and

2.  Start chopping heads off.

The thing with that is, brexit is the most beige banal tedious existential threat / form of the destroyer could take.
The Nazi's had snazzi outfits and hatefilled autocrats, it was something you could really get the juices flowing for swinging an axe at. 
Brexit is a paperwork and customs nightmare, truly a weapon of Aneris, with a PM who you are lucky if he tucks his shirt in, people are burned out at this stage. 
And so we sleepwalk into the abyss.
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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1626 on: September 26, 2019, 12:25:49 am »
So what you have is one set of rules for one side, and no rules at all for the other side.

The two options are:

1.  Take it like a bitch, and

2.  Start chopping heads off.

The thing with that is, brexit is the most beige banal tedious existential threat / form of the destroyer could take.
The Nazi's had snazzi outfits and hatefilled autocrats, it was something you could really get the juices flowing for swinging an axe at. 
Brexit is a paperwork and customs nightmare, truly a weapon of Aneris, with a PM who you are lucky if he tucks his shirt in, people are burned out at this stage. 
And so we sleepwalk into the abyss.

Evil is always banal.  In the end, the Nazis were a bunch of meth heads.

Brexit is a bunch of screeching racist hillbillies.
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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1627 on: September 26, 2019, 06:51:08 am »
So what you have is one set of rules for one side, and no rules at all for the other side.

The two options are:

1.  Take it like a bitch, and

2.  Start chopping heads off.

The thing with that is, brexit is the most beige banal tedious existential threat / form of the destroyer could take.
The Nazi's had snazzi outfits and hatefilled autocrats, it was something you could really get the juices flowing for swinging an axe at. 
Brexit is a paperwork and customs nightmare, truly a weapon of Aneris, with a PM who you are lucky if he tucks his shirt in, people are burned out at this stage. 
And so we sleepwalk into the abyss.

So it's kind of like the ending of Brazil then?
Formerly something else...

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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1628 on: September 26, 2019, 12:32:46 pm »
So this happened

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/sep/25/boris-johnson-flies-to-uk-as-parliament-returns-after-court-ruling-politics-live

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Widespread condemnation erupted after Boris Johnson shrugged off emotional comments by an MP about the murder of remain-campaigner and Labour MP Jo Cox with the word “humbug”; shortly after, the PM said Cox was best remembered by getting Brexit done, which further fuelled the outrage.

Which was followed today by this.



We are well beyond dogwhistles at this point.

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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1629 on: September 26, 2019, 05:17:57 pm »

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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1630 on: September 26, 2019, 05:58:38 pm »


And then you gotta sing it again:

Can't get revenge and keep a spotless reputation
Sometimes revenge is a choice you gotta make
My mama came from a softer generation
Where you get a grip and bite your lip just to save a little face

~ Miranda Lambert, the Queen of Losing Your Shit, from "This Ain't Your Mama's Broken Heart"
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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1631 on: September 26, 2019, 06:42:13 pm »
Perhaps even more so than Boris, Cummings is responsible for our current mess. He was the head of Vote Leave, and was found in contempt of Parliament for refusing to appear before a Parliamentary committee over false claims he made during the campaign.

That he's failing so spectacularly and earning the hatred of everyone in Westminster while doing so is somewhat gratifying.

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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1632 on: September 26, 2019, 09:42:09 pm »
There's also this shitshow https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/26/state-fund-jennifer-arcuri-row-grant-firm-pays-tory-mp-johnny-mercer

And arms sales to Saudi also finally getting looked at.

I've still got a fiver on one of his random bastards (literally, a bastard by dictionary definition) being the one to stop this whole thing. Probably violently. Knives are fashionable I hear.



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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1633 on: September 26, 2019, 10:00:31 pm »
John Major thinks they're going to try and use an "Order of Council" which apparently only requires a cabinet vote, to delay the No Deal Brexit legislation until after October 31st.

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Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« Reply #1634 on: September 26, 2019, 10:01:55 pm »