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Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
« Reply #855 on: June 24, 2016, 02:43:05 am »
The best thing I've heard said all year, which is now "Daniel's Law":

"If you shoot a man in the face at the ice capades, people will talk.  Shoot the same guy on a battlefield, people will step over him while wondering which ration they're going to draw for dinner.  It's all about context."

I had to just stare at that for a minute trying to understand...

Failing that, badly. Isn't intentionally shooting folks in the face one of those things that you're pretty much sure you're likely to get "known and noted" for real quick in the military?

Shooting the enemy is kind of the point, really.
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Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
« Reply #856 on: June 24, 2016, 02:53:52 am »
The best thing I've heard said all year, which is now "Daniel's Law":

"If you shoot a man in the face at the ice capades, people will talk.  Shoot the same guy on a battlefield, people will step over him while wondering which ration they're going to draw for dinner.  It's all about context."

I had to just stare at that for a minute trying to understand...

Failing that, badly. Isn't intentionally shooting folks in the face one of those things that you're pretty much sure you're likely to get "known and noted" for real quick in the military?

Shooting the enemy is kind of the point, really.

Well yeah.  I'm just... reaching I guess. Figured it's the sort of thing that would get you a rep. I mean like legality aside if someone I pretty much only know for their "I shoot faces" rep was unhappy with their ration draw, for instance, I'd be inclined to see if they could be better accommodated.
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Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
« Reply #857 on: June 24, 2016, 08:55:32 am »
The Call of Duty generation have now enlisted. If it's not a headshot it doesn't count  :lulz:
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Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
« Reply #858 on: June 24, 2016, 02:57:29 pm »
The Call of Duty generation have now enlisted. If it's not a headshot it doesn't count  :lulz:

 :horrormirth:

I always thought it would be neat to use a similar idea in a story. Specifically that the angels of Death working in Accounting&Omens found that some soldiers that die on a "modern" battlefield lose it and keep trying to "respawn" and keep fighting. They discovered in these cases that if you show them their "final stats" they snap out of it and realize they're dead well enough for the psychopomp to get their attention.
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Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
« Reply #859 on: June 24, 2016, 04:37:07 pm »
The Call of Duty generation have now enlisted. If it's not a headshot it doesn't count  :lulz:

Oh god, that reminded me of one of the most cringeworthy things I ever read on the internet:

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The Red Pill is 120 thousand fit college educated middle class men. If we really wanted to we could invade New Zealand and install a new government. We definitely have the manpower. There are plenty of veterans here. Plus everyone here knows where the magazine release is on an M16, from years of playing Call Of Duty.

Realistically the Red Pill Reaction Force would be far more effective than half the world's militaries. The Afghan military is fucked up on opium. The Iraqi army cant even do jumping jacks. . Plus New Zealand has only 8 thousand military personnel the majority of whom are useless paper pushers.

I don't actually support the violent overthrow of New Zealand. I just think its kind of a fun idea conceptualy.

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« Reply #860 on: June 24, 2016, 05:16:32 pm »
My stuff is being delivered tomorrow.
I've been in San Diego for 3 fucking weeks.
I haven't slept on my own bed since May 24th.

The moving contractors weren't listening to me, because I didn't take his last name, and in militaryland, that's considered bad because the DoD doesn't know their asses from their elbows. I'm gonna change it, eventually, I just didn't want to deal with it during school since I had a hard enough time during my undergrad changing it back from my first marriage. This is an archaic system, but not one I can fight with the feminisms and the social justices and whatever the kids are calling it these days. I have to just deal. Paperwork? Nah, don't show us your ID, your not his wife because you don't have his last name.  :roll:

So, my husband, the chief petty officer with the fucking patience of a saint, is sick of his wife sleeping on the floor because the air mattress is doing rotten things to her back. And, without too much of a fight, they "magically" found our stuff, which was already in San Diego, and now it's getting delivered on a day they normally don't deliver.

He wasn't there when they came to pack us. Or loaded the truck. I drove across the country with a friend instead of him.
And now, I get to prep the house without him, and hope that the boat lets him off of duty tomorrow at an early time so my stomach won't fucking implode again. I discovered the true meaning of pain and suffering when my GI tract revolted on me during my thesis writing, and started manufacturing excess acid. Acid burns holes. I have a tiny ulcer in my stomach that can reduce me to cold sweats and dry heaves if I'm not medicated on a strong proton pump inhibitor, or as I've come to call them, my proton torpedoes.

Apparently, stress can fucking rip you apart. Who knew?  :lulz:

But seriously though, do not get an ulcer. DO NOT. I thought that something ruptured, and couldn't even drink water.

At least I get my couch tomorrow.
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Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
« Reply #861 on: June 24, 2016, 06:41:00 pm »
The Call of Duty generation have now enlisted. If it's not a headshot it doesn't count  :lulz:

When I was in basic ages past, there was this kid who couldn't qualify with the m16 because he was trying to only get headshots.  :lulz:
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« Reply #862 on: June 24, 2016, 09:05:28 pm »
I thought the whole point of the M16 was to be non-lethal:  shoot em in the legs so you also take out a few more, to care for the one that got shot.
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« Reply #863 on: June 24, 2016, 09:09:28 pm »
I thought the whole point of the M16 was to be non-lethal:  shoot em in the legs so you also take out a few more, to care for the one that got shot.

Um, where the fuck did you get that idea? 
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« Reply #864 on: June 24, 2016, 09:17:12 pm »
I thought the whole point of the M16 was to be non-lethal:  shoot em in the legs so you also take out a few more, to care for the one that got shot.

Um, where the fuck did you get that idea?
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« Reply #865 on: June 24, 2016, 09:18:13 pm »
I thought the whole point of the M16 was to be non-lethal:  shoot em in the legs so you also take out a few more, to care for the one that got shot.

 Oh yeah. Guns are totally non-fucking-lethal and designed to just maim the other side a bit.
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« Reply #866 on: June 24, 2016, 09:22:00 pm »
I thought the whole point of the M16 was to be non-lethal:  shoot em in the legs so you also take out a few more, to care for the one that got shot.

Um, where the fuck did you get that idea?
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The M-16 came into service because the M-14 was too cumbersome and heavy because you needed to carry a shit-ton of ammunition to match the output of the AK-47, and because the alternative M2 Carbine couldn't put out enough damage to keep up, even if it was more controllable and better for sustained fire.  Thus a weapon that was the happy medium between the two was required and the M-15 and finally M-16 was developed

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« Reply #867 on: June 24, 2016, 09:27:50 pm »
I thought the whole point of the M16 was to be non-lethal:  shoot em in the legs so you also take out a few more, to care for the one that got shot.

 Oh yeah. Guns are totally non-fucking-lethal and designed to just maim the other side a bit.
  :ffs:
The logic was for Vietnam, against Guerilla warfare, two birds one stone.  I was surprised by how small the M16's calibre was, compared to say an AK.
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Re: Open Bar: We're going to build a bar, and make the drinks pay for it!
« Reply #868 on: June 24, 2016, 09:45:05 pm »
I thought the whole point of the M16 was to be non-lethal:  shoot em in the legs so you also take out a few more, to care for the one that got shot.

 Oh yeah. Guns are totally non-fucking-lethal and designed to just maim the other side a bit.
  :ffs:
The logic was for Vietnam, against Guerilla warfare, two birds one stone.  I was surprised by how small the M16's calibre was, compared to say an AK.

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« Reply #869 on: June 24, 2016, 10:22:07 pm »
I thought the whole point of the M16 was to be non-lethal:  shoot em in the legs so you also take out a few more, to care for the one that got shot.

 Oh yeah. Guns are totally non-fucking-lethal and designed to just maim the other side a bit.
  :ffs:
The logic was for Vietnam, against Guerilla warfare, two birds one stone.  I was surprised by how small the M16's calibre was, compared to say an AK.

 :um:
Initially, the whole "aim low" thing didn't make sense to me either, but then again, none of it does anyway.  This was that lovely theatre that also brought us Napalm and Agent Orange. :/
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