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Re: UNLIMITED Immigration Nutbaggery Thread
« Reply #60 on: September 30, 2018, 06:22:08 pm »
What bothers me isn't so much that someone is giving these orders, it's that there are boots on the ground who are executing them, understanding fully what they're doing.

Sure, you can break this sort of operation into smallish chunks, for which no-one needs to feel responsible.  "I just set up the tents, it's not up to me what they're being used for".  "I'm just the bus driver.  Who the passengers are or where they're going has nothing to do with me".  But somewhere out there are people who are waking children up in the middle of the night and putting them on buses, knowing full well what's happening, and that's horrifying.
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Re: UNLIMITED Immigration Nutbaggery Thread
« Reply #61 on: September 30, 2018, 06:26:48 pm »
What bothers me isn't so much that someone is giving these orders, it's that there are boots on the ground who are executing them, understanding fully what they're doing.

Sure, you can break this sort of operation into smallish chunks, for which no-one needs to feel responsible.  "I just set up the tents, it's not up to me what they're being used for".  "I'm just the bus driver.  Who the passengers are or where they're going has nothing to do with me".  But somewhere out there are people who are waking children up in the middle of the night and putting them on buses, knowing full well what's happening, and that's horrifying.

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Re: UNLIMITED Immigration Nutbaggery Thread
« Reply #62 on: October 01, 2018, 01:29:51 pm »
What bothers me isn't so much that someone is giving these orders, it's that there are boots on the ground who are executing them, understanding fully what they're doing.

Sure, you can break this sort of operation into smallish chunks, for which no-one needs to feel responsible.  "I just set up the tents, it's not up to me what they're being used for".  "I'm just the bus driver.  Who the passengers are or where they're going has nothing to do with me".  But somewhere out there are people who are waking children up in the middle of the night and putting them on buses, knowing full well what's happening, and that's horrifying.

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Re: UNLIMITED Immigration Nutbaggery Thread
« Reply #63 on: October 01, 2018, 02:01:30 pm »
What bothers me isn't so much that someone is giving these orders, it's that there are boots on the ground who are executing them, understanding fully what they're doing.

Sure, you can break this sort of operation into smallish chunks, for which no-one needs to feel responsible.  "I just set up the tents, it's not up to me what they're being used for".  "I'm just the bus driver.  Who the passengers are or where they're going has nothing to do with me".  But somewhere out there are people who are waking children up in the middle of the night and putting them on buses, knowing full well what's happening, and that's horrifying.

"I was just following orders."

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« Reply #64 on: October 04, 2018, 08:33:46 pm »
I can't link, because the LA Times doesn't allow people in Europe to read their website ("we're going to build a firewall...because we're too lazy to implement GDPR") but now the White House is going after Vietnamese immigrants.

So Trump wants to throw out a reliably pro-Republican voting bloc that has been in the US, in some cases, for over 40 years, that Vietman is refusing to take in, because "icky foreigners". 

I would assume that at this point no-one is safe.

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Re: UNLIMITED Immigration Nutbaggery Thread
« Reply #66 on: October 10, 2018, 12:29:16 am »
As I recall, weren't evangelical agencies taking the lead in adoptions for these kids as well?

This is the kind of shit the Catholic Church is having to apologise for doing 80 years ago now.

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« Reply #67 on: October 10, 2018, 01:01:40 am »
As I recall, weren't evangelical agencies taking the lead in adoptions for these kids as well?

This is the kind of shit the Catholic Church is having to apologise for doing 80 years ago now.

Didn't they spend the better part of a century stealing kids in Spain or something?
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« Reply #68 on: October 10, 2018, 02:18:49 am »
Yes, as well as parts of South America.  I seem to recall some scandals in Canada too. 

In Spain specifically I recall that they were taken from "politically unreliable" families...

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« Reply #69 on: October 10, 2018, 02:48:57 am »
I seem to recall some scandals in Canada too. 

The Sixties Scoop, and before that, the residential school system.

The residential school system removed aboriginal children from their families and placed them in compulsory boarding schools (most of them Catholic), in an attempt to assimilate them into Canadian culture.  At least 3000 deaths are attributed to poor conditions in these schools.

With the Sixties Scoop, the children were placed in foster homes or up for adoption, rather than being placed in boarding schools.
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« Reply #70 on: October 10, 2018, 10:54:58 am »
That was the one, thanks.

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« Reply #71 on: October 10, 2018, 11:16:55 am »
I seem to recall some scandals in Canada too. 

The Sixties Scoop, and before that, the residential school system.

The residential school system removed aboriginal children from their families and placed them in compulsory boarding schools (most of them Catholic), in an attempt to assimilate them into Canadian culture.  At least 3000 deaths are attributed to poor conditions in these schools.

With the Sixties Scoop, the children were placed in foster homes or up for adoption, rather than being placed in boarding schools.

I remember these, the kids were forced to take on catholic names, forget about their culture and in some cases were handed to catholic couples and told to forget their parents.
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« Reply #72 on: October 10, 2018, 05:02:08 pm »
I seem to recall some scandals in Canada too. 

The Sixties Scoop, and before that, the residential school system.

The residential school system removed aboriginal children from their families and placed them in compulsory boarding schools (most of them Catholic), in an attempt to assimilate them into Canadian culture.  At least 3000 deaths are attributed to poor conditions in these schools.

With the Sixties Scoop, the children were placed in foster homes or up for adoption, rather than being placed in boarding schools.

I remember these, the kids were forced to take on catholic names, forget about their culture and in some cases were handed to catholic couples and told to forget their parents.

And in many cases forbidden from speaking their native languages.
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« Reply #73 on: October 13, 2018, 11:37:18 pm »
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