Pelosi vs AOC feud

[Cain]

See also: Biden

[Juana]

You're acting like Trump is the cause, and not the symptom.

If, somehow, a Centrist Dem boots Trump, you think the GOP is gonna say, "ok, your turn"?

No, they'll go on a vicious attack, and the Centrist will compromise, which is another way of saying, "well, I guess some genocide is all right."

Evidence:

[Doktor Howl]

That feud was dangerous, but the Mango Mussolini couldn't keep his fat mouth shut, so maybe all better now.

[Doktor Howl]

No, not at all. I'm saying put aside litmus tests, get the orange buffoon out of office. If he gets another 4 years, shit's gonna get worse.

You're acting like Trump is the cause, and not the symptom.

If, somehow, a Centrist Dem boots Trump, you think the GOP is gonna say, "ok, your turn"?

No, they'll go on a vicious attack, and the Centrist will compromise, which is another way of saying, "well, I guess some genocide is all right."

A Leftist president will fight like hell and give it right back to them.

Well, yes.  The root cause of failure here is "Americans".

[Nephew Twiddleton]

No, not at all. I'm saying put aside litmus tests, get the orange buffoon out of office. If he gets another 4 years, shit's gonna get worse.

You're acting like Trump is the cause, and not the symptom.

If, somehow, a Centrist Dem boots Trump, you think the GOP is gonna say, "ok, your turn"?

No, they'll go on a vicious attack, and the Centrist will compromise, which is another way of saying, "well, I guess some genocide is all right."

A Leftist president will fight like hell and give it right back to them.

Well, yes.  The root cause of failure here is "Americans".

That does seem to be the common theme

[Bruno]

Even if I found the need to have a gun, I wouldn't be enthusiastic about it. I'd be bummed out that I lived in a shitty society that necessitated having a gun.

That's where I'm at, except at this point I'm about one mediocre used car deep into spending money on guns... because white people are scary, and that's coming from a white person.

I mean, I think they're kinda neat for farting around in the backyard, and if it weren't for the scary white people factor I might have a 22 pistol for shooting soda cans for shits and giggles, but as things are now, I worry that I may need to arm some people if shit gets really weird, and so now I have a collection of assault weapons which I bought with money that  I would have otherwise preferred to have spent on student loans, or my retirement funds or something, but I live in a shitty society that seems to necessitate me being able to pass out guns like candy when the scary white people I'm surrounded by decide to finally carry out their unceasing threats to "take their country back".

All the while I realize that there is nothing the gun industry would like more than an arms race between the right and left in this country, and I am in all likelihood totally falling for their schemes.

[Cain]

The thing is, the Democrats might be against the wall and the kiddie concentration camps, but they have bought wholesale into the "we must militarize the border" dynamic that has existed since 9/11.

Of course, 9/11 was an intelligence failure, not a border control one (Mohammed Atta aside...he should have been flagged for sharing a name with a Palestinian terrorist) and none of the terrorist attacks since then have had anything to do with border control in any significant fashion, but the Democrats believe if they show they are tough on border security, Republican voters who think Pelosi is a Communist sleeper agent in the US to install sharia law, will find the party more appealing. As you can see, this strategy is working out great (you'll note Republicans never need to "appeal to moderates", even while the President is tweeting white supremacist propaganda and trying to get a Congressman assassinated by proxy).

So of course they voted against AoC's measures, because it would more broadly limit their ability to militarize the border.

[Doktor Howl]

The thing is, the Democrats might be against the wall and the kiddie concentration camps, but they have bought wholesale into the "we must militarize the border" dynamic that has existed since 9/11.

Well, there are no contracts to be awarded by saying "there isn't actually a problem".

Also, the dem insistence on compromising with evil.

[altered]

Yeah, what Howl said.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Thirded