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Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #210 on: April 07, 2020, 03:47:21 pm »
which part of that strikes you as Dr. Fauci not sticking to science?

O Fauci does. He's a straight shooter, but having his message undermined and contradicted is effectively just as bad as him not being a scientist at all in the sense that he has to be believed for the truth to matter. I may have misspoken there a bit. I did not mean he wasn't a scientist, rather that he is not being allowed to function as one meaningfully.
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Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #211 on: April 07, 2020, 03:57:57 pm »
New York Transit is nearly dead in the water and only transporting medical personnel and other essential folks.

"The MTA now has 20 times the confirmed coronavirus cases it had two weeks ago, with 5,600 employees in self-quarantine and 33 deaths"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mta-now-20-times-confirmed-213743375.html
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Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #212 on: April 07, 2020, 04:15:52 pm »
New York Transit is nearly dead in the water and only transporting medical personnel and other essential folks.

"The MTA now has 20 times the confirmed coronavirus cases it had two weeks ago, with 5,600 employees in self-quarantine and 33 deaths"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mta-now-20-times-confirmed-213743375.html

Yeah, I'm getting nervous about my brother. He's essential personnel, since he's a butcher, and has to use the subway to commute. He does say on the bright side, the cars are so fucking spotless and empty it's like living in bizarroworld.
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Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #213 on: April 07, 2020, 04:22:24 pm »
New York Transit is nearly dead in the water and only transporting medical personnel and other essential folks.

"The MTA now has 20 times the confirmed coronavirus cases it had two weeks ago, with 5,600 employees in self-quarantine and 33 deaths"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mta-now-20-times-confirmed-213743375.html

Yeah, I'm getting nervous about my brother. He's essential personnel, since he's a butcher, and has to use the subway to commute. He does say on the bright side, the cars are so fucking spotless and empty it's like living in bizarroworld.

I wish your brother the best. I've never been on a subway, but they always look cramped and filthy in the movies, unless creepy and empty is the vibe they're going for.
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Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #214 on: April 07, 2020, 05:03:57 pm »
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Capt. Brett Crozier of the USS Theodore Roosevelt may have been worried that Rear Adm. Stuart Baker, his immediate boss and the commander of the carrier strike group, would not have allowed him to send the warning letter to Navy leaders, according to the top Navy official who fired him as told to a Washington Post columnist.

Baker reportedly confirmed to Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly that Crozier's instincts were correct: "He was right. I wouldn't."


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Modly claimed that he eventually fired Crozier because he "didn't want to get into a decision where the president would feel that he had to intervene."

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"The letter was sent over non-secure, unclassified email even though that ship possesses some of the most sophisticated communications and encryption equipment in the fleet," Modly said Thursday.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fired-us-navy-captain-reportedly-012113158.html

I spent a fair bit of time dicking around with Google trying to get an actual transcription of the letter in text or PDF... nada. It just refused to do anything but top load referential articles and I don't have time to dig down several hundred thousand returns for a blind link or something. If anyone can find it I would very much like to read it.
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Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #215 on: April 07, 2020, 05:24:16 pm »
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In one of these videos, Maradiaga is seen filming herself at what she says is a Walmart and issues a strange threat to the camera, KXAS, a local news station in Dallas-Fort Worth, reported.

“I’m here at Walmart about to infest every (expletive), because if I’m going down, all you (expletive) are going down,” she said, per the station.

In another video seen by KXAS, the woman appears to be sitting in a car at a coronavirus drive-through testing site. A nurse can be heard telling the person driving the car to go home and wait for the test results.

Maradiaga also filmed herself later that day repeatedly coughing into the camera and saying, per KXAS: “If you want to get the coronavirus and (expletive) die, call me.”

The Carrollton Texas Police Department noted on Twitter that they are unsure if Maradiaga has COVID-19, and “have no confirmation Maradiaga is actually a threat to public health.” But they are taking the teen’s actions on social media “very seriously.”

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/police-woman-covid-19-positive-willfully-spreading-it-snapchat-lorraine-maradiaga-190640294.html

Shit like this... gonna happen more and more, methinks.
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Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #216 on: April 07, 2020, 05:25:19 pm »
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Capt. Brett Crozier of the USS Theodore Roosevelt may have been worried that Rear Adm. Stuart Baker, his immediate boss and the commander of the carrier strike group, would not have allowed him to send the warning letter to Navy leaders, according to the top Navy official who fired him as told to a Washington Post columnist.

Baker reportedly confirmed to Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly that Crozier's instincts were correct: "He was right. I wouldn't."


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Modly claimed that he eventually fired Crozier because he "didn't want to get into a decision where the president would feel that he had to intervene."

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"The letter was sent over non-secure, unclassified email even though that ship possesses some of the most sophisticated communications and encryption equipment in the fleet," Modly said Thursday.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fired-us-navy-captain-reportedly-012113158.html

I spent a fair bit of time dicking around with Google trying to get an actual transcription of the letter in text or PDF... nada. It just refused to do anything but top load referential articles and I don't have time to dig down several hundred thousand returns for a blind link or something. If anyone can find it I would very much like to read it.

Best I could find.  It was leaked to the press, not the public.  https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Exclusive-Captain-of-aircraft-carrier-with-15167883.php?utm_source=Daily%20on%20Defense%20040220_04/02/2020&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=WEX_Daily%20on%20Defense&rid=76109

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Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #217 on: April 07, 2020, 05:46:26 pm »
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Capt. Brett Crozier of the USS Theodore Roosevelt may have been worried that Rear Adm. Stuart Baker, his immediate boss and the commander of the carrier strike group, would not have allowed him to send the warning letter to Navy leaders, according to the top Navy official who fired him as told to a Washington Post columnist.

Baker reportedly confirmed to Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly that Crozier's instincts were correct: "He was right. I wouldn't."


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Modly claimed that he eventually fired Crozier because he "didn't want to get into a decision where the president would feel that he had to intervene."

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"The letter was sent over non-secure, unclassified email even though that ship possesses some of the most sophisticated communications and encryption equipment in the fleet," Modly said Thursday.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fired-us-navy-captain-reportedly-012113158.html

I spent a fair bit of time dicking around with Google trying to get an actual transcription of the letter in text or PDF... nada. It just refused to do anything but top load referential articles and I don't have time to dig down several hundred thousand returns for a blind link or something. If anyone can find it I would very much like to read it.

Best I could find.  It was leaked to the press, not the public.  https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Exclusive-Captain-of-aircraft-carrier-with-15167883.php?utm_source=Daily%20on%20Defense%20040220_04/02/2020&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=WEX_Daily%20on%20Defense&rid=76109

Thanks! I found that too, but the paywall was a deal breaker. It's fucking obnoxious looking for specific info in this shitstorm.
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Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #218 on: April 08, 2020, 03:07:58 am »
i was sent this by a very dear friend who is among the most intelligent folks I know. He has a PHD in music theory and is a full Professor. He sent it to me saying it seemed weird to him that it was scrubbed from Medium hours after posting and that I should see it, tacitly coming close as fuck to implying a coverup. It's DREK. It's pure bullshit sophistry and while it does, like all decent sophistry, use some factual statements It's prett much entirely horseshit medically and clearly more about political bias and conning folks into taking drugs that don't actually do shit for viral infections. I submit it as an example of it's kind only.

https://archive.is/ONUmi

It's not even GOOD sophistry... good sophistry is entirely truthful, but but warps perspective. This is just straight up bullshit.
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Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #219 on: April 08, 2020, 01:18:50 pm »
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He has a PHD in music theory and is a full Professor.


I found the problem.

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« Reply #220 on: April 08, 2020, 01:36:07 pm »
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He has a PHD in music theory and is a full Professor.


I found the problem.

Eh?  :?
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Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #221 on: April 08, 2020, 01:48:51 pm »
It probably got scrubbed precisely because it's bullshit. Even Youtube is finally starting to get its act together on coronavirus and 5G conspiracy theories.

And I think LMNO is implying that your friend isn't a medical doctor, and that is part of the problem. In addition to that, professors acting outside of their area of expertise can quickly overestimate their proficiency in understanding that area (see: Neil deGrasse Tyson on virtually every topic other than astrophysics).

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« Reply #222 on: April 08, 2020, 01:54:55 pm »
It probably got scrubbed precisely because it's bullshit. Even Youtube is finally starting to get its act together on coronavirus and 5G conspiracy theories.

And I think LMNO is implying that your friend isn't a medical doctor, and that is part of the problem. In addition to that, professors acting outside of their area of expertise can quickly overestimate their proficiency in understanding that area (see: Neil deGrasse Tyson on virtually every topic other than astrophysics).

I'm SURE it was scrubbed as BS and rightly so. I see what you mean on the expertise thing, moreover he has a LOT of ground in Christian programing in him. His character and integrity are excellent, but he's a bit dogmatic.
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Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #223 on: April 08, 2020, 01:58:52 pm »
What Cain said.

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« Reply #224 on: April 08, 2020, 02:01:47 pm »
Also music theory. It's not even really a thing.