am i confused?

[Horab Fibslager]

i am confused. maybe i'm not a discordian after all. all these folks that keep saying thing about discordianicity seem to subscribe to assholism rather than marveling at the counterpushpull of the hodge podge, which in it's incestual lust creates teh vibes we call strife, discord, chaos, whihc push against order and control. or something.i always had the impression it was about havign a laugh, being funny in an odd sorta way, sending people weird letters for kicks, writing on dollar bills and altering billboards. not making some poor janitor somewhere have to clean up soem pile of shit because you plugged the toilet, not attacking other people's view jsut for them having them. i think it has mmore to do with pies and cookies than killing and rudeness. i think it's great that soem of yall are realizing where america is going, and that's great. some of us don't live there. soem of us don't care. soem of us are doing things, and some of us are doing nothing. and it is all good. i mean it's not for  any of us to judge, and how coudl we, given the evidence?

there was apoint to that, but i forget now. oh yes, this is discordianism not assholism.
if you don't want to leave high school, that's fine.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Why do you hate job security for janitors?

[agent compassion]

Of, fuck off, Roger.  

Horab you have a point. Discordianism's not a license to be an asshole. And what good's a jake if it only causes destruction? Isn't our trip supposed to be about CREATIVE disorder? Aren't there ENOUGH assholes willing to be destructive in the world already? Balance, people, BALANCE!

Just look at all the stress out there! Eating disorders, mental disorders, roadrage, war! Isn't there ENOUGH violence and assholery already? Doesn't this hint to any of you that something is seriously out of whack?

And does it make things any better to act just like the assholes only in reverse? I don't think so.

All is Chaos, but remember the grid. Creative/Destructive. Order/Disorder.

Why do we think Destructive Disorder is ok as long as a self-professed "Discordian" does it?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Of, fuck off, Roger.  

Horab you have a point. Discordianism's not a license to be an asshole. And what good's a jake if it only causes destruction? Isn't our trip supposed to be about CREATIVE disorder? Aren't there ENOUGH assholes willing to be destructive in the world already? Balance, people, BALANCE!

Just look at all the stress out there! Eating disorders, mental disorders, roadrage, war! Isn't there ENOUGH violence and assholery already? Doesn't this hint to any of you that something is seriously out of whack?

And does it make things any better to act just like the assholes only in reverse? I don't think so.

All is Chaos, but remember the grid. Creative/Destructive. Order/Disorder.

Why do we think Destructive Disorder is ok as long as a self-professed "Discordian" does it?

So, now we have orthodoxy???

YOUR form of Discordianism is right, and mine is wrong?

[Bella]

You should go into the shrink business Agent C.
I spent thousands of dollars and seven years in therapy.
I asked my Dr how he'd know when I was ready to 'graduate".
He said everything he taught me could be boiled down into one word.
As soon as I figured out what that word was, I was done.

The word was BALANCE.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

The word was BALANCE.

I don't like balance.  I like everything all topsy-turvy.

TGRR,
Bets you didn't know that.

[Cain]

There is both destrucive chaos and creative chaos.  Creative chaos can bring about lovely new things.  Destructive chaos can bring about the end of nasty old greyfaced things. Which in turn allows for more new things.  Another type of balance?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

There is both destrucive chaos and creative chaos.  Creative chaos can bring about lovely new things.  Destructive chaos can bring about the end of nasty old greyfaced things. Which in turn allows for more new things.  Another type of balance?

To save society, we must destroy it...much as a forest fire clears the way for new growth.

TGRR,
Just found a whole new rationalization!

[Bella]

The word was BALANCE.

I don't like balance.  I like everything all topsy-turvy.

TGRR,
Bets you didn't know that.

You'd absolutely lose that bet, Rog.

I love balance.
It keeps me almost sane.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

The word was BALANCE.

I don't like balance.  I like everything all topsy-turvy.

TGRR,
Bets you didn't know that.

You'd absolutely lose that bet, Rog.

I love balance.
It keeps me almost sane.

Look at the world around you.  Taken as individuals, most of the leaders, and the population, are sane.

Tell me sanity is working.

TGRR,
Knows it isn't.  Destroy the old ways.

[Cain]

To save society, we must destroy it...much as a forest fire clears the way for new growth.

TGRR,
Just found a whole new rationalization!

I get the feeling that may have been a bad idea....


Oh, what the hell!

[Horab Fibslager]

The word was BALANCE.

I don't like balance.  I like everything all topsy-turvy.

TGRR,
Bets you didn't know that.

i dthinkit's discordianism at all . i used to think it was, but i've coem to think you're jsut a big prick, who likes to see other people squirm. course, you dont' seem to be able to take what you like to dish out.

i like balanced unbalance. roger's wet dream is a world where we eat our children so we dont' starve while fending off anarchistnihilst hordes bent on procreating with our un as yet mutated women. roger's perfect world is a world where no one has any responsibility, except to keep thei rbellies full and their dicks hard.

[Ben]

Insanity amongst individuals is rare.  Amongst groups, societies, and nations, it is the rule.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

To save society, we must destroy it...much as a forest fire clears the way for new growth.

TGRR,
Just found a whole new rationalization!

I get the feeling that may have been a bad idea....


Oh, what the hell!

Probably.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

The word was BALANCE.

I don't like balance.  I like everything all topsy-turvy.

TGRR,
Bets you didn't know that.

i dthinkit's discordianism at all . i used to think it was, but i've coem to think you're jsut a big prick, who likes to see other people squirm. course, you dont' seem to be able to take what you like to dish out.

i like balanced unbalance. roger's wet dream is a world where we eat our children so we dont' starve while fending off anarchistnihilst hordes bent on procreating with our un as yet mutated women. roger's perfect world is a world where no one has any responsibility, except to keep thei rbellies full and their dicks hard.

1.  And there you have the Subgenius dichotomy:  Mankind's last hope, or just another excuse for assholes? It makes no difference to me, really, because I am up for any program.

2.  You say that like it's a BAD thing.  Actually, it's never too late to be pessimistic.  In fact, events may prove my pessimism to be insanely optimistic!  It can, of course, always get worse, and most likely will.