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Okay, just got off the phone with my old editor.

We paid $3/issue because we needed a quick printing, which essentially doubled the cost. If we don't mind it taking a while to print, we can get

1000 copies of a 20-page, 4-color magazine for between $1.40 and $1.60 per copy

A lot of these bridges will be crossed when we come to them.

we should go with the model that any profit made will just be pumped back into the next edition?

I think so. There are going to be some costs, like printing. As I recall from a cheapass magazine I used to work for, if we order a set of like 1000 glossy full color magazines we can get them printed for like three bucks a pop. (edit: that's probably a bit off - if we're interested, I can go dig up the real numbers) I think the people who throw down the benjamins for this should get reimbursed, then if there's any left, profit should be invested into further issues.. The trick here is to get advertisers.

(this is all assuming we're talking about something like a magazine, which is totally feasible)
hmmm but to whom do we sell it? How do we cover our costs?

When we sell this cow, we're all gonna be smokin' blunts rolled in $100 bills




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develop a style that translates well into print with minimal production and editing time

I've wrote about 10 different answers to this and I'm not satisfied with any of them.

That's a hell of problem you've brought up there... 

In My Opinion --- the "style" of the text needs to be:

• accessable - any asshole should be able to read it and understand it without knowledge of our complex metaphors
• engaging - it should be interesting to read
• relevant - ...nuff said, I hope

The specific format of the text does not need to be standardized. We could do a mix of sermons, rants, essays, socratic dialogues, AIM dialogues, and diagrams, as long as they fit the above criteria.

The BIP booklet, for example, does this nicely. The format and tone of the pamphlet changes from page to page, and I feel that actually helps it stay interesting. Plus if you (the reader) find one style boring, turn the page and there's a different approach. It well reflects the commutiny we have here and our various approaches to solving this "problem".

I also found that eclectic style quite useful to convey the complex ideas in the BIP. It's not something you can summarize quickly, and the multifaceted approach seemed to work.

Tone is another issue entirely.

my reply to the OP:

Thread paleontology isn't going to be useful to us unless we have a somewhat clear goal. LHX's original proposition:

Desired result:
instead of having people being told to 'Think for Yourself' -
provide context, warnings, benefits, and applications

audience?

• Discordians?
• Other Jerks?

And is the goal to produce a brochure?

the OP also sounds like the goal might be the evolution of the meme. Think for yourself about And Now What, etc.

Why 5? There's a passage in Illuminatus! where someone asks that. Hagbard (I think) shows them a picture of a guy with six fingers on one hand. The caption is something like "If we had evolved like this, it would be the law of sixes".


What about the phrase

"Think for yourself about ______".

At some art school I visited, there were these bumper stickers everywhere which said "Art is         ". In some cases people had written in stuff in the blank (I saw one in a bathroom stall where someone wrote in "shit", for example)

We could fill in the blank ourselves for as a heading for specific rants and stuff. Think for yourself about the machine. Think for yourself about voting. Think for yourself about individuality. Think for yourself about pretzels.

If we printed stickers, they could be put in places where we could fill in the blank with relevant things. Like on the front of a magazine rack it could say "Think for yourself about fashion"



Regarding the OP -- I feel that any effort we make to reorganize ourselves towards a specific goal is a good effort. These new beginnings come with a lot of fresh energy. It also forces us to rethink refine recycle all that shit we were talking about last week.

What kind of monthly columns would you see in a Discordian magazine?


I imagine the letters to the editor would be quite hilarious.

I heart this sermon because it's nice to feel like we're in charge now and then. Like that we have power other than freedom. Cause we're not just victims of all these shitty machinations. Fuck yeah, Rog!

I am moved and shaken

I don't think that doing X or Y (or even Z if you can fathom it) makes you any less of a Discordian.

News time being taken up to ask "is Idols judging too harsh?" You've gotta be kidding me. It's not harsh enough. They should incorporate corporal punishment into the show.

And that's exactly what it would take to get me to sit through an episode.

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