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Principia Discussion / Re: Hi
May 02, 2023, 11:47:44 PM
I was hangry.
Principia Discussion / Re: Hi
May 02, 2023, 08:40:04 PM
You people are all shitbags.

I want Bernie mittens, bitches.
"There's a difference between anti-fascism and the "VIOLENT ANTIFA GANG. They're not the same thing!!!"

Cool. Patriotism and "Patriots" aren't the same thing. One is a sense of pride and fellowship in one's country and the other is membership in a terrorist org that listens to trashy paranoia talk radio shows, nitpicks the president's speeches and combs 4chan/8chan for super-secret bat-signal clues they call BREADCRUMBS.

Funny thing about these hyper-militarized, "Patriot" rapists and thugs is that they operate in cells and sleeper-cells. They spread their message of war and total control far and wide and use dogwhistle language from their book of lies to communicate and try to convert the weak and impressionable to their evil ways. You cut the head off one group and six others sprout in their place.

They're trying to change our peaceful way of life and convert everyone to the fucked up series of lies and laws to which they swear their allegiance. They infiltrate the government, our military, our schools and businesess. They're trying to codify their fannatical beliefs and zealotry into our system of governance. Every time I see one of them in their ridiculous attire, it makes me sick to see what this country is going to. We should deport every last one of them.

If you want to live in this country, you need to behave as such. Come here, get your vaccinations, pay your taxes and support the worker/your fellow countrymen. This nation was founded on strong unions and a deeply held reverence for the morals and tenets of ethical secularism. You fly OUR flag, OUR colors here.

If you don't like it, take your fascist Confederate flag, turn in your passport, book a flight to Russia and GTFO. REAL Americans don't want you here destroying everything we built and have pride in.
Quote from: navkat on April 09, 2013, 06:55:34 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 09, 2013, 06:39:40 PM
Quote from: navkat: navkat of...navkat! on April 09, 2013, 06:36:41 PM
Like that Liberty Dollar thing I almost lost my shirt in years ago?

We Reverend Doktors have a technical term for that sort of thing.

"Investing like a fan", which is a subcondition of "Betting like a fan".  In layman's terms, Canada Bill Jones said it best, more than a hundred years ago:  "It is morally wrong to allow a sucker to keep his money."

Having BEEN a sucker is not a shameful thing.  Lessons are learned, and they are never learned for free.  They may cost you money or pride or both.  It's only shameful when you run off and make the same fucking sucker bet a second time.


And luckily, I didn't buy too much of the paper certificates. I bought the coins and got rid of them before it became out-and-out illegal to possess them.

My friend Karl Riele, however, committed suicide after he lost EVERYTHING. Not only did he have faith and place his bets, but he dragged a lot of loved ones and friends into the casino. Ruined his reputation, self-esteem, everything. Before the Fed took his entire life savings away and brought him up on charges, he'd established a thriving market for the things in Western NY based on his faith in the Rochester currency.

He was a very, very good, kindhearted man and until just a couple years ago, I believed, a survivor. I've known a lot of people (a LOT) who have snuffed themselves out over the last few years over far less. Karl was a shock.

Bitcoin is going to do this to people. The Fed won't tolerate competition.

Ooooh...this aged...weirdly.

Since this, 3 more friends committed suicide after the Bitcoin Bust a few years back.
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Redemption
April 19, 2013, 03:38:50 AM
Okay, so  :? sign a pention. If you get enough sigs, I give Faust the thumbs up to rip it down. Hell, get five. Mod the shit out of it. I don't give a rat's ass anymore.

I need to go yell fire in a theater or some shit. Rip wings of of flies. Catch ya ltr.
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Entitlement and Privilege
April 18, 2013, 09:31:25 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 15, 2013, 10:01:25 PM

The thing that makes this a shining example is the fact that if the ladies room were full and I urgent enough to use the men's, no one would have tossed me.
Quote from: Cain on April 14, 2013, 01:27:07 PM
In the one sense, it's kinda nice I suppose they're trying to tie in failure to do well at school with wider consequences.

However, these consequences are idiotic and mean little in a school system that fails to support a variety of learning methods and styles to accomodate the needs of the students.

I mean, I'd happily pay someone to slap my students in the face with a dead fish every time they slept in and missed a mock exam, for example.

The problem is, we seem to have a culture in this country of punishing failure to overcome degradation and hardship with more degradation and hardship.

More obstacles and consequences are not going to vault these kids to the top. It's going to teach them to stay down.
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Redemption
April 18, 2013, 08:27:26 PM
Quote from: Pixie on April 18, 2013, 06:25:07 PM
I was just asking for you to consider having some empathy, but hey.

I do have empathy. That's why I don't take my wording lightly and it's primarily why I hoped it would illustrate my point. It was intended to strike a chord in a spot that causes all of us to wince. It flopped. I don't know how to resolve that in my mind because the last thing I want to do is cause "gratuitous" pain that nets nothing of value but I honestly don't know how to better transmit the message.
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Redemption
April 18, 2013, 06:22:24 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 18, 2013, 05:26:00 PM
"Quietly backing off" is pretty much the same thing as "ignoring it until it goes away". Not responding is, in fact, disrespectful, regardless of how you want to spin it. It sends a pretty clear message that you don't give a shit and that my feelings and opinions are not important enough to merit a response. If that's not the message you intended to send, you might reconsider your approach.

The monsters inside your head are not my problem. If you can't control yourself, then I won't read your posts. Thanks for letting me know that's what I need to do.

Now I'm spinning shit. I'm a liar too! And no matter what I say about my thought process, your perception of my feelings takes precedence.

I'm sorry but I dealt with all that "If you don't chase me to find out what's wrong, it's because you don't respect me! YES IT IS!" hissy fit bullshit from my mom as a kid. It's a losing battle. Every. Single. Time. If you choose to perceive my letting it drop as an act of disrespect, I'm sorry for your self-induced experience of having been slighted. Can't help ya.

Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 18, 2013, 05:28:37 PM
Quote from: navkat: navkat of...navkat! on April 18, 2013, 05:14:18 PM

And now I'm claiming victimhood and I'm kind of pathetic. Boy, my list of crimes and repugnant traits seem to have no ceiling. I never know what horrible things I'll discover about myself next.

You are free to return to calling me a horrible person now.

FYI, this is what I was referring to. It's very blown out of proportion to the actual criticism, and it reeks of black-and-white thinking.

And this smacks of irresponsible psychoanalysis of friends, family and lovers in a biased and self-proclaimed state of having been offended. A cardinal sin and we both know it. I'm taking the same College-level Psych classes as you so...

And another thing (and this goes for everyone) I do not come here to be fucking reminded or scolded about what kind of treatment I need--mental, medical or otherwise. Everyone on here has put their personal shit out there at some point or another so don't give me that crap about how I "brought it upon myself" because my shit's uniquely public now. I'm not one to take my ball and go home (in the 6 or so years I've been here, I've only been tempted once and Faust crushed that) but if this becomes a hell where I am poked and prodded and discredited because people are taking liberty and license with regards to my mental diagnoses, (this includes personality disorders, eating disorders, abuse victim mentality, PTSD,stockholm syndrome or whatever other diagnosis du jour you want to point to something I said as evidence to support) my continuing to post here will be fruitless and unpleasant and possibly even toxic and counterproductive to my IRL struggle to find harmony and wellness. After you're all done sticking labels on me, I need to go home, peel them off and go about the business of discovering what's really broken and what's working just fine.

If you think I'm fucking unhinged, feel free to hit that ignore button.

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 18, 2013, 05:32:19 PM
Quote from: navkat: navkat of...navkat! on April 18, 2013, 05:14:18 PM
My only regret is that it was too much for people and therefore, ineffective at communicating my point.

Read that to yourself just one more time, please.

Yeah, got that.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 09, 2013, 05:48:24 PM

The root of the matter is this:  If your choice of wording or your butthurt has caused your message to fail to reach its intended target - intentionally or otherwise - then you have not engaged in communication, you have indulged in anti-communication.  The failure of the idea to be transmitted and received is your failure, not the failure of those lousy ingrates that should "just listen to the message, not the way it was sent", which is, of course, patently ridiculous.  The burden of communication is on the person trying to send the idea, not the people receiving it.

Okay for Now,
The Good Reverend Doktor.

Point taken. But still! People shouldn't be so quick to...never mind.
Well, fuck. I didn't see this until now. I didn't mean you.
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Redemption
April 18, 2013, 05:14:18 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 18, 2013, 04:20:38 PM
You can feel free to be forever "that chick who's NSFW because she talks about baby rape".

I mean, seriously Navkat, you taking the victim stance because for some reason you don't understand why that's socially unacceptable is kind of pathetic.

Right. Because that's what I'm notorious for.

And now I'm claiming victimhood and I'm kind of pathetic. Boy, my list of crimes and repugnant traits seem to have no ceiling. I never know what horrible things I'll discover about myself next.

Hey, did you ever think 1. I have my own "dark feelings" about the issue? or 2. There was a reason (aside from some frivolous act of literary dadaism) I made the choice to be specific/graphic?

Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 18, 2013, 04:23:19 PM
And, I can't help but notice that you didn't bother to respond to my post until someone else chimed in to reinforce what I said, which tells me a lot about how much you give a flying fuck about my feelings.

Does it really? Did it occur to you that I may have tried to swallow it, back off and quietly ignore it for several days until it was opened back up for me to be reprimanded a second and a third time?

Nah. Couldn't be that. My response was totally about disrespecting you. How pathetic.

Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on April 18, 2013, 04:50:54 PM
It's not even a trigger thing. I mean, it severely squicks me out and I'm sure my past experiences, as well as being a parent, contribute to that, but also, I think that it's also generally a thing that you don't drop graphic, specific, and gratuitous descriptions of grotesque violence into a conversation because it tends to elicit a negative response from most people.

Navkat, if these things are in your head and you can't keep yourself from saying them, get counseling, because you will alienate people by blurting them out inappropriately.

The more you know.

Funny, I didn't find it gratuitous. The idea touches some pretty dark shit in my head also. There was a very deliberate reason why I chose to let that little monster take a shit on the coffee table.

My only regret is that it was too much for people and therefore, ineffective at communicating my point.

I just wanted to make that clear in case someone it tempted to lecture me about how ineffective it was at communicating my point.

You are free to return to calling me a horrible person now.
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Redemption
April 18, 2013, 03:56:02 PM
I wasn't addressing censorship from a restricted access point of view but rather, from a social pressure/consequences/guilt stance which is no less real. But I think you knew that.
Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Redemption
April 18, 2013, 02:44:48 PM
Okay, I'm getting tired of the selective fucking attitudes about FREE SPEECH around here. What do you want me to say? That I promise not to post anything shocking or offensive anymore? That somewhere between the expressing the actual shit rattling around inside my head and just keeping my mouth shut are a whole lot of options borne of good sense and in better taste and that I'll do my best to find one agreeable to everyone without also offending you by referring to it as "compliant self-censorship?"

I'm annoyed. Y'all are wrong. <---That's about the most honest, non-passive-aggressive way I can say it. I hope we can get past this without it turning into pages of vitriol and arguing. Hunter S Thompson, I am not. David Foster Wallace I am NOT but I have to stand up to this and say no. I will not go out of my way to make it pretty when ugly is how it needs to come out.

I hope this doesn't turn you away or hurt feelings. I have triggers too but I try to get above them. As we all should.

Thank you.