Principia Discordia

Principia Discordia => Or Kill Me => Topic started by: Kaienne on July 11, 2007, 05:31:34 PM

Title: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Kaienne on July 11, 2007, 05:31:34 PM
IMO ONLY

One who is quick to anger, quick to forgive, quick to the draw, quick to love, quick to fall out of love, quick to give up in lack of interest, quick to suddenly revive old strings of thought previously abandoned due to lack of interest, quick to eat fresh, quick to squick, quick to do nice things for random people for no good reason, quick to react in a witty fashion when a random people does a nice thing for no good reason, and quick to always consult his or her pineal gland, naturally.

Also someone very slow, calm, and serene.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Triple Zero on July 11, 2007, 05:34:43 PM
what does "consult your pineal gland" mean, when you use the phrase?
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: faust on July 11, 2007, 05:36:16 PM
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Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
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Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: faust on July 11, 2007, 05:41:20 PM
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Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Cramulus on July 11, 2007, 05:42:07 PM
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Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: AFK on July 11, 2007, 05:42:32 PM
Quote from: faust on July 11, 2007, 05:36:16 PM
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Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Thurnez Isa on July 11, 2007, 05:43:32 PM
Quote from: Kaienne on July 11, 2007, 05:31:34 PM

One who is quick to anger, quick to forgive, quick to the draw, quick to love, quick to fall out of love, quick to give up in lack of interest, quick to suddenly revive old strings of thought previously abandoned due to lack of interest, quick to eat fresh, quick to squick, quick to do nice things for random people for no good reason, quick to react in a witty fashion when a random people does a nice thing for no good reason, and quick to always consult his or her pineal gland, naturally.


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Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Payne on July 11, 2007, 05:43:42 PM
Quote from: faust on July 11, 2007, 05:41:20 PM
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Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
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Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: faust on July 11, 2007, 05:51:52 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on July 11, 2007, 05:43:32 PM
Quote from: Kaienne on July 11, 2007, 05:31:34 PM

One who is quick to anger, quick to forgive, quick to the draw, quick to love, quick to fall out of love, quick to give up in lack of interest, quick to suddenly revive old strings of thought previously abandoned due to lack of interest, quick to eat fresh, quick to squick, quick to do nice things for random people for no good reason, quick to react in a witty fashion when a random people does a nice thing for no good reason, and quick to always consult his or her pineal gland, naturally.


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Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Darth Cupcake on July 11, 2007, 05:56:37 PM
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Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Kaienne on July 11, 2007, 06:25:25 PM
Quote from: triple zero on July 11, 2007, 05:34:43 PM
what does "consult your pineal gland" mean, when you use the phrase?

Unlock, through deep meditation [what constitutes meditation may very from individual to individual], your body's natural capability of producing dimethyltryptamine.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: the dreadful hours on July 11, 2007, 06:31:41 PM
careful with that
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on July 11, 2007, 06:41:42 PM
Quote from: Kaienne on July 11, 2007, 06:25:25 PM
Quote from: triple zero on July 11, 2007, 05:34:43 PM
what does "consult your pineal gland" mean, when you use the phrase?

Unlock, through deep meditation [what constitutes meditation may very from individual to individual], your body's natural capability of producing dimethyltryptamine.

I don't think there's actual evidence that DMT exists in the pineal gland... I think that appears only in Strassman's book "DMT: The Spirit Molecule" as a theory (Even then there's some question as to how it might be released).

I personally find it easier to grind up some root bark, do an extraction and smoke my DMT directly.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Mangrove on July 11, 2007, 06:41:58 PM
Not wishing to be picky to the OP, but while the pineal body may indeed produce DMT, there are also numerous mechanisms in place that prevent the release of sufficient quantities to induce a psychedelic episode.

Rick Strassman's research seems to suggest that large discharges of DMT from the pineal gland would be rare and occur during critical experiences eg: being born, NDE, dying etc.

If it was that easy to access DMT in ourselves, there would not have been any necessity to develop agents like Ayahausca.

There's been plenty of research into the effects of meditation, altered states of consciousness and so forth, much of which has  been very intriguing. I would be very interested to know however, if there's been any studies with regards to meditation and elevated levels of natural DMT in humans.

Personally, I would be cautious about saying that deep meditation = DMT experience. The dosages Strassman needed to induce full on trips in his study group were typically 0.3-0.4mg per kg of body weight. The 0.4mg was his top dosage and was considered pretty extreme.

Just my 2c  :D

Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Cramulus on July 11, 2007, 07:14:43 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 11, 2007, 06:41:42 PM
I don't think there's actual evidence that DMT exists in the pineal gland... I think that appears only in Strassman's book "DMT: The Spirit Molecule" as a theory (Even then there's some question as to how it might be released).

I personally find it easier to grind up some root bark, do an extraction and smoke my DMT directly.

You know, I had read about DMT and it sounded obvious to many writers (like McKenna) that it was produced in the body. After reading this I want source-checking and it sounds like you're right.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine)

QuoteStrassman also proposed that DMT is made in the pineal gland, although this is only speculation. It should be noted that DMT falls in the Tryptamine group, which also contains Serotonin, Melatonin (a hormone the Pineal Gland does indeed produce, and which contains an indole ring similar to DMT), and Psilocybin.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on July 11, 2007, 07:24:30 PM
Quote from: Professor Cramulus on July 11, 2007, 07:14:43 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 11, 2007, 06:41:42 PM
I don't think there's actual evidence that DMT exists in the pineal gland... I think that appears only in Strassman's book "DMT: The Spirit Molecule" as a theory (Even then there's some question as to how it might be released).

I personally find it easier to grind up some root bark, do an extraction and smoke my DMT directly.

You know, I had read about DMT and it sounded obvious to many writers (like McKenna) that it was produced in the body. After reading this I want source-checking and it sounds like you're right.

QuoteStrassman also proposed that DMT is made in the pineal gland, although this is only speculation. It should be noted that DMT falls in the Tryptamine group, which also contains Serotonin, Melatonin (a hormone the Pineal Gland does indeed produce, and which contains an indole ring similar to DMT), and Psilocybin.

Yep, I was surprised once I did further research too. It may be that DMT is produced in the pineal gland, however, it has not been confirmed (nor has it got much evidence to support it as of yet). Of course, more importantly, the concept doesn't seem to have been around when the PD was written. During the 60's I think the pineal gland was considered mostly useless and I have begun to consider that "consulting your pineal gland" besides all of the mystic 3rd eye jokes, may have been a reference to extraneous body parts (like men with nipples). If the Wikipedia reference is correct, then it looks like it was considered vestigial until the 1990's.  Of course, I have no idea if this is what they meant or not... but it seems possible.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Chairman Risus on July 11, 2007, 07:24:51 PM
Quote from: Kaienne on July 11, 2007, 05:31:34 PM
IMO ONLY

One who is quick to anger, quick to forgive, quick to the draw, quick to love, quick to fall out of love, quick to give up in lack of interest, quick to suddenly revive old strings of thought previously abandoned due to lack of interest, quick to eat fresh, quick to squick, quick to do nice things for random people for no good reason, quick to react in a witty fashion when a random people does a nice thing for no good reason, and quick to always consult his or her pineal gland, naturally.

Also someone very slow, calm, and serene.

Yeah, and maybe to sound like a crappy hallmark card.  
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: LMNO on July 11, 2007, 07:30:51 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on July 11, 2007, 06:41:58 PM
Not wishing to be picky to the OP, but while the pineal body may indeed produce DMT, there are also numerous mechanisms in place that prevent the release of sufficient quantities to induce a psychedelic episode.

Rick Strassman's research seems to suggest that large discharges of DMT from the pineal gland would be rare and occur during critical experiences eg: being born, NDE, dying etc.

If it was that easy to access DMT in ourselves, there would not have been any necessity to develop agents like Ayahausca.

There's been plenty of research into the effects of meditation, altered states of consciousness and so forth, much of which has  been very intriguing. I would be very interested to know however, if there's been any studies with regards to meditation and elevated levels of natural DMT in humans.

Personally, I would be cautious about saying that deep meditation = DMT experience. The dosages Strassman needed to induce full on trips in his study group were typically 0.3-0.4mg per kg of body weight. The 0.4mg was his top dosage and was considered pretty extreme.

Just my 2c  :D



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Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on July 11, 2007, 07:37:48 PM
Quote from: Kaienne on July 11, 2007, 05:31:34 PM
IMO ONLY

One who is quick to anger, quick to forgive, quick to the draw, quick to love, quick to fall out of love, quick to give up in lack of interest, quick to suddenly revive old strings of thought previously abandoned due to lack of interest, quick to eat fresh, quick to squick, quick to do nice things for random people for no good reason, quick to react in a witty fashion when a random people does a nice thing for no good reason, and quick to always consult his or her pineal gland, naturally.

Also someone very slow, calm, and serene.

Why would these be Discordian ideals? Some of them seem useful in describing a subset of Discordians, but "quick to do nice things for random people for no good reason"? or "quick to anger, quick to forgive"? And as for " slow, calm, and serene" I don't think I've met a Discordian yet that fits that description.

From my experiences with Discordians, the ideal Discordian is...

about as likely to exist as Nessie. It's possible, but no one has hard evidence of it yet ;-)
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Darth Cupcake on July 11, 2007, 07:39:42 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 11, 2007, 07:37:48 PM
From my experiences with Discordians, the ideal Discordian is...

about as likely to exist as Nessie. It's possible, but no one has hard evidence of it yet ;-)

An ideal Discordian is like Santa Claus -- fat, imaginary, and enjoys breaking and entering and eating other peoples' cookies.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: guest7654 on July 11, 2007, 07:44:14 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 11, 2007, 06:41:42 PM

I personally find it easier to grind up some root bark, do an extraction and smoke my DMT directly.

How difficult a process is this?? :)
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Chairman Risus on July 11, 2007, 07:44:39 PM
Quote from: Darth Cupcake on July 11, 2007, 07:39:42 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 11, 2007, 07:37:48 PM
From my experiences with Discordians, the ideal Discordian is...

about as likely to exist as Nessie. It's possible, but no one has hard evidence of it yet ;-)

An ideal Discordian is like Santa Claus -- fat, imaginary, and enjoys breaking and entering and eating other peoples' cookies.
I smell mittens
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on July 11, 2007, 07:57:22 PM
Quote from: rzasthole on July 11, 2007, 07:44:14 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 11, 2007, 06:41:42 PM

I personally find it easier to grind up some root bark, do an extraction and smoke my DMT directly.

How difficult a process is this?? :)

Takes about a week and a rudimentary understanding of chemistry, rudimentary reading comprehension or at least rudimentary skills with The Google. ;-)

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/extraction_guide1/dmt_extraction_guide1.shtml  <--- Guide I have used in the past. It worked well as the little gnome who ran all over my living room would attest to, were he to still be around.

Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Mangrove on July 11, 2007, 08:03:51 PM
Quote from: rzasthole on July 11, 2007, 07:44:14 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 11, 2007, 06:41:42 PM

I personally find it easier to grind up some root bark, do an extraction and smoke my DMT directly.

How difficult a process is this?? :)

Easier than getting the government to fund a scientific study and supply you with pure DMT.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Doktor Loki on July 11, 2007, 10:18:06 PM
Quote from: Mangrove on July 11, 2007, 08:03:51 PM
Quote from: rzasthole on July 11, 2007, 07:44:14 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 11, 2007, 06:41:42 PM

I personally find it easier to grind up some root bark, do an extraction and smoke my DMT directly.

How difficult a process is this?? :)

Easier than getting the government to fund a scientific study and supply you with pure DMT.

TITCM.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: faust on July 11, 2007, 11:44:15 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 11, 2007, 07:37:48 PM
Quote from: Kaienne on July 11, 2007, 05:31:34 PM
IMO ONLY

One who is quick to anger, quick to forgive, quick to the draw, quick to love, quick to fall out of love, quick to give up in lack of interest, quick to suddenly revive old strings of thought previously abandoned due to lack of interest, quick to eat fresh, quick to squick, quick to do nice things for random people for no good reason, quick to react in a witty fashion when a random people does a nice thing for no good reason, and quick to always consult his or her pineal gland, naturally.

Also someone very slow, calm, and serene.

Why would these be Discordian ideals? Some of them seem useful in describing a subset of Discordians, but "quick to do nice things for random people for no good reason"? or "quick to anger, quick to forgive"? And as for " slow, calm, and serene" I don't think I've met a Discordian yet that fits that description.

From my experiences with Discordians, the ideal Discordian is...

about as likely to exist as Nessie. It's possible, but no one has hard evidence of it yet ;-)
Ideal discordians keep an open mind and always consider the possibility they might be wrong, and their opinions are drawn from conclusions they have come to, not from other peoples.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on July 12, 2007, 02:08:42 AM
Quote from: faust on July 11, 2007, 11:44:15 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 11, 2007, 07:37:48 PM
Quote from: Kaienne on July 11, 2007, 05:31:34 PM
IMO ONLY

One who is quick to anger, quick to forgive, quick to the draw, quick to love, quick to fall out of love, quick to give up in lack of interest, quick to suddenly revive old strings of thought previously abandoned due to lack of interest, quick to eat fresh, quick to squick, quick to do nice things for random people for no good reason, quick to react in a witty fashion when a random people does a nice thing for no good reason, and quick to always consult his or her pineal gland, naturally.

Also someone very slow, calm, and serene.

Why would these be Discordian ideals? Some of them seem useful in describing a subset of Discordians, but "quick to do nice things for random people for no good reason"? or "quick to anger, quick to forgive"? And as for " slow, calm, and serene" I don't think I've met a Discordian yet that fits that description.

From my experiences with Discordians, the ideal Discordian is...

about as likely to exist as Nessie. It's possible, but no one has hard evidence of it yet ;-)
Ideal discordians keep an open mind and always consider the possibility they might be wrong, and their opinions are drawn from conclusions they have come to, not from other peoples.

Well said... a grainy photograph for the evidence file!!

Oh wait, I think that might actually be a Bobbite or a RAWfin, rather than a Discordian. They look a lot alike, so its easy to confuse the photographs. ;-)
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Triple Zero on July 12, 2007, 10:08:21 AM
Quote from: Mangrove on July 11, 2007, 06:41:58 PM
Not wishing to be picky to the OP, but while the pineal body may indeed produce DMT, there are also numerous mechanisms in place that prevent the release of sufficient quantities to induce a psychedelic episode.

Rick Strassman's research seems to suggest that large discharges of DMT from the pineal gland would be rare and occur during critical experiences eg: being born, NDE, dying etc.

If it was that easy to access DMT in ourselves, there would not have been any necessity to develop agents like Ayahausca.

There's been plenty of research into the effects of meditation, altered states of consciousness and so forth, much of which has  been very intriguing. I would be very interested to know however, if there's been any studies with regards to meditation and elevated levels of natural DMT in humans.

Personally, I would be cautious about saying that deep meditation = DMT experience. The dosages Strassman needed to induce full on trips in his study group were typically 0.3-0.4mg per kg of body weight. The 0.4mg was his top dosage and was considered pretty extreme.

Just my 2c  :D

no, see, you're missing the point.

the point is that you need to light(en) up.

DONT YOU GUYS GET IT IM A BATSHIT INSANE FRUITGUM AND ILL SAY ANYTHING WHEN MY BLADDER OF CONSCIOUSNESS IS FULL!
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Kaienne on July 12, 2007, 06:58:44 PM
And I thought I was crazy.

I believe in faith, I have faith in some things. The 'white light over the mountain' followed by an explosion of light and thought and unity described when one sees true nature after deep meditation, the 'light at the end of the tunnel' and 'seeing angels' at death, and rushing light explosion sensation and (relatively) high probability of 'beings contact' one experiences on DMT; coupled with the fact that the pineal gland is exactly where the brow chakra is described as being; and throw in the fact that the pineal does produce other tryptamines; and just for kicks that one Tibetian 'lower lights of Bardo' story; and that's enough circumstantial evidence for me, for the time being, to believe it is possible that the brain produces DMT.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: LMNO on July 12, 2007, 07:48:16 PM
Quote from: Kaienne on July 12, 2007, 06:58:44 PM
And I thought I was crazy.

See?  I told you that you weren't crazy.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on July 12, 2007, 08:49:47 PM
Kaienne,

If you choose to believe in and have faith about the pineal gland, you should. I personally think that it might be true (or at least it would be damn cool if it were true). Although I think its just as cool that the pineal gland tissue is quite closely related (assuming that the model being used by the doctors has merit) to the retinal tissue. So all these people who have said for thousands of years that our 'third eye' was located in the  center of the forehead may well have been right... in some sense.
Of course, the pineal gland may just be another meme, like 23, 42, 5, etc. etc. They all may be quarters that we see, because we've programmed ourselves to see them... or they may all have some Siriusly important purpose that we haven't quite figured out... ;-)
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Triple Zero on July 12, 2007, 08:56:42 PM
closely related to the retinal tissue? producing DMT? really it's time to link some reliable sources, guys.

also, at least according to my yoga teacher, the pineal gland does not exactly coincide with the 6th chakra. but that's details, since we're talking about an astral/ethereal thingy corresponding to a physical organlike thingy.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: hunter s.durden on July 12, 2007, 09:01:43 PM
Quote from: triple zero on July 12, 2007, 08:56:42 PM
but that's details, since we're talking about an astral/ethereal thingy corresponding to a physical organlike thingy.

I'm glad you added this.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on July 12, 2007, 09:10:51 PM
Quote from: triple zero on July 12, 2007, 08:56:42 PM
closely related to the retinal tissue? producing DMT? really it's time to link some reliable sources, guys.

also, at least according to my yoga teacher, the pineal gland does not exactly coincide with the 6th chakra. but that's details, since we're talking about an astral/ethereal thingy corresponding to a physical organlike thingy.

The source for the idea is (as mentioned earlier) the book "DMT:he Spirit Module". It's currently a theory based on the similarity between stuff the pineal gland is known to produce (tryptamine in the form of melatonin) and a theory that doses of DMT could explain near death experiences. The evidence is kinda slim and sketchy, However, it has not yet been dismissed either.

And it would be extremely cool!

As for the retina, I think its currently a evolutionary biology theory... *checking Wikipedia*... *ah*...

Pinealocytes in lower vertebrate animals have a strong resemblance to the photoreceptor cells of the eye. Some evolutionary biologists believe that the vertebrate pineal cells share a common evolutionary ancestor with retinal cells[4].

In some vertebrates, exposure to light can set off a chain reaction of enzymes, hormones, and neuroreceptors, which may help regulate the animal's circadian rhythm[5].

In humans and other mammals, this function is served by the retinohypothalamic system that sets the rhythm within the suprachiasmatic nucleus. Cultural and social interactions produce exposures to artificial light that influence the setting of the suprachiasmatic clock. Evidence for a role for opsin-related light-sensing compounds in the skin of mammals is presently controversial. Research suggests that the pineal gland may serve a magnetoreceptive function in some animals. [6]

Some early vertebrate fossil skulls have a pineal foramen. This corroborates with the physiology of the modern lamprey, tuatara, and some other vertebrates
.

So obviously, lamprey are Discordian!
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Cramulus on July 12, 2007, 09:20:30 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on July 12, 2007, 09:10:51 PM
So obviously, lamprey are Discordian!

FUCK
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: BumWurst on July 12, 2007, 11:18:42 PM
You don't think the whole "pineal gland" bit is another piece of intentionally silly psuedo-religious bumf designed to subvert... well, everything?  :?
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Cramulus on July 12, 2007, 11:33:15 PM
how does it subvert everything?
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: BumWurst on July 13, 2007, 12:29:32 AM
Well, not "everything," that was a silly thing for me to say. But it seems to me that much of Discordianism, if I am correct in thinking that I understand it at all, is setting up truths, real and valuable truths, and laughing at them, robbing them of their ability to become Dogma - likewise, it sets up ideas which are clearly bollocks and causes them to become sacred, making it harder to discern what is a joke and what is not, which I suspect is the point.

Like the guy who wrote: "I drew circles, anti-clockwise on a piece of squared paper. Then, I crumpled it into a ball, and worshipped it. Then, I laughed at it, and threw it away."

If it's true that life is a poor practical joke at the expense of the participant, then this winking, knowing self subversion is, well, kinda beautiful. At least I think so.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Chairman Risus on July 13, 2007, 12:50:28 AM
To settle everything once and for all, we need to set up an experiment.


We need to surgically remove the pineal gland from a member of this forum.

Posthaste!
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on July 13, 2007, 01:40:09 AM
BumWurst,

IOt certainly seems possible. Most useful information about the pineal gland didn't come around until the 90's, before then there were a number of philosophers and mystics who thought that it was some secret power, or the seat of the soul or a whole host of various notions. It may be that the commentary was intended to poke fun at such things.

Or it may have been a meme-bomb. Or there may actually be some really neat-o secret.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Forteetu on July 13, 2007, 03:19:21 AM

What I really wanted was to have the 42nd post ITT ... done


While I'm here, I might as well say ....

If it works for you, do it.
If it doesn't, don't.
Everything else is sock fucking

Want to know WHY it works? Go ahead ... have fun. Whatever you discover, you'll prove yourself wrong some day, or someone else will. Doesn't change the fact that whatever it was, it was useful for awhile.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Payne on July 13, 2007, 03:31:56 AM
Actually, you only got the 43'rd post.

You DID get the 42/nd reply though.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Kaienne on July 13, 2007, 03:34:30 AM
Back in the 60's, the Pineal Gland was thought to be a vestigal organ, much like the appendix, probably why it was said to consult it.
It's just an inasne, fucked up coincidence that it happens to produce some of the most important chemicals correlated to consciousness (seratonin, melatonin, and, if correct, dmt).

The link for info on that book is http://www.rickstrassman.com
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Forteetu on July 13, 2007, 03:35:32 AM
Quote from: Payne on July 13, 2007, 03:31:56 AM
Actually, you only got the 43'rd post.

You DID get the 42/nd reply though.

:lulz: picky mother fucker!

SEE!!?!?! someone's always got to come along and prove ya wrong
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on July 13, 2007, 04:16:16 AM
Quote from: Forteetu on July 13, 2007, 03:35:32 AM
Quote from: Payne on July 13, 2007, 03:31:56 AM
Actually, you only got the 43'rd post.

You DID get the 42/nd reply though.

:lulz: picky mother fucker!

SEE!!?!?! someone's always got to come along and prove ya wrong

Hah! That means I got the 42nd post ;-)

However, I do agree with you (forteetu) and Kaienne's post. Ifr it works do it, if you like it do it. Kaienne, I didn't mean to say that you shouldn't use whatever model works for you... most of mine have no basis in 'reality' at all ;-)
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: East Coast Hustle on July 13, 2007, 04:42:51 AM
Quote from: Kaienne on July 11, 2007, 05:31:34 PM
IMO ONLY

One who is quick to anger, quick to forgive, quick to the draw, quick to love, quick to fall out of love, quick to give up in lack of interest, quick to suddenly revive old strings of thought previously abandoned due to lack of interest, quick to eat fresh, quick to squick, quick to do nice things for random people for no good reason, quick to react in a witty fashion when a random people does a nice thing for no good reason, and quick to always consult his or her pineal gland, naturally.

Also someone very slow, calm, and serene.

attn Kaienne: after the above post, your signature is no longer true.

Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Kaienne on July 13, 2007, 03:57:44 PM
I was under the assumption that my signature wasn't true from the second you said it.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Darth Cupcake on July 13, 2007, 04:39:48 PM
ECH: a man made of 110% 24-karat LIES?!
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: East Coast Hustle on July 13, 2007, 07:02:28 PM
:kojak:
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Jasper on July 13, 2007, 07:37:42 PM
My ideal discordian isn't trying to kill me.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Chairman Risus on July 13, 2007, 08:22:31 PM
Quote from: Felix on July 13, 2007, 07:37:42 PM
My ideal discordian isn't trying to kill me.
Mine is, though. Watch out.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Jasper on July 13, 2007, 08:37:45 PM
Damn dirty chaos worshippers.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on July 13, 2007, 08:40:13 PM
Quote from: Felix on July 13, 2007, 08:37:45 PM
Damn dirty chaos worshippers.

Yep, we don't want none of them high-falutin muckety-mucks with their 'clean chaos'!!!
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Jasper on July 13, 2007, 08:52:26 PM
These bitches.
(http://uk.games-workshop.com/hordesofchaos/getting-started/images/art-chaos-warrior.jpg)

:lol:
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Payne on July 13, 2007, 09:12:44 PM
Moar Games Workshop art, ITT.

Eventually there has to be one posted. Though the last one I remember was sometimew ago.

Wasn't it that Blood Angel someone posted with a granny standing next to it?

Also. Yes, very discordian.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: AFK on July 13, 2007, 09:19:30 PM
Those huge axes are obviously to make up for some shortcomings. 
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Cain on July 14, 2007, 12:58:00 PM
THE ONLY THING YOU NEED TO BE A DISCORDIAN?

BE ABLE TO CONFUSE, MISLEAD OR OTHERWISE FUCK WITH AND CAUSE CHAOS AMONG THE NORMALS.

EOF

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Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Kaienne on July 14, 2007, 02:20:31 PM
So... Everyone in /b/ is an ideal Discordian? I feel slightly cheated.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Cain on July 14, 2007, 02:32:26 PM
No.  Everyone on /b/ is retarded, bored, or possibly looking for porn.

That said, several dozen of the more coherent b-tards would make excellent Discordians, yes.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: faust on July 14, 2007, 06:31:17 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 14, 2007, 02:32:26 PM
No.  Everyone on /b/ is retarded, bored, or possibly looking for porn.

That said, several dozen of the more coherent b-tards would make excellent Discordians, yes.
same guy.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Triple Zero on July 14, 2007, 07:43:08 PM
i went to /b/ yesterday and today for the first time.

it's .... weird.

was it just today, or is it pretty much every other day that somebody is spamming the place continuously with the same text?

it doesn't really matter cause i made a little opera userscript to hide all posts containing a certain piece of text.

but even then, it's still a sea of memetic whitenoise :)
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: faust on July 14, 2007, 11:05:24 PM
yeah, go on about three in the morning to get a reason to never go back.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Jasper on July 15, 2007, 08:26:31 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 14, 2007, 12:58:00 PM
THE ONLY THING YOU NEED TO BE A DISCORDIAN?

BE ABLE TO CONFUSE, MISLEAD OR OTHERWISE FUCK WITH AND CAUSE CHAOS AMONG THE NORMALS.

EOF

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I liken it to any deftness in applying one's cunning.  There's causing chaos in a rough, smashing people's faces sense, and there's cunning and skillful ways to get out of situations with more than you had while everyone else is just causing rough chaos.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Kaienne on July 15, 2007, 04:39:58 PM
Cunning, guile, and slyness were definitely traits I phailed to note.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: East Coast Hustle on July 15, 2007, 05:02:16 PM
Quote from: Kaienne on July 15, 2007, 04:39:58 PM
I phailed.

fixed.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Cain on July 15, 2007, 05:05:17 PM
Quote from: Felix on July 15, 2007, 08:26:31 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 14, 2007, 12:58:00 PM
THE ONLY THING YOU NEED TO BE A DISCORDIAN?

BE ABLE TO CONFUSE, MISLEAD OR OTHERWISE FUCK WITH AND CAUSE CHAOS AMONG THE NORMALS.

EOF

(END OF FORUM)

I liken it to any deftness in applying one's cunning.  There's causing chaos in a rough, smashing people's faces sense, and there's cunning and skillful ways to get out of situations with more than you had while everyone else is just causing rough chaos.

I too, prefer the latter.  The trick is to be in the eye of the storm, while everything else is crumbling around you.  A gentle approach, subtle and cunning, works very well.

Then again, sometimes you have no choice but to start blowing up toilets...
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Richter on July 15, 2007, 05:29:28 PM
Quote from: Cain on July 15, 2007, 05:05:17 PM
Quote from: Felix on July 15, 2007, 08:26:31 AM
Quote from: Cain on July 14, 2007, 12:58:00 PM
THE ONLY THING YOU NEED TO BE A DISCORDIAN?

BE ABLE TO CONFUSE, MISLEAD OR OTHERWISE FUCK WITH AND CAUSE CHAOS AMONG THE NORMALS.

EOF

(END OF FORUM)

I liken it to any deftness in applying one's cunning.  There's causing chaos in a rough, smashing people's faces sense, and there's cunning and skillful ways to get out of situations with more than you had while everyone else is just causing rough chaos.

I too, prefer the latter.  The trick is to be in the eye of the storm, while everything else is crumbling around you.  A gentle approach, subtle and cunning, works very well.

Then again, sometimes you have no choice but to start blowing up toilets...

This is correct motorcycle.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Jasper on July 15, 2007, 06:01:21 PM
Depending on circumstances, that could be taken as very cunning and subtle.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 15, 2007, 06:12:28 PM
Quote from: Kaienne on July 15, 2007, 04:39:58 PM
Cunning, guile, and slyness were definitely traits I phailed to note.

You what?
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Kaienne on July 15, 2007, 10:15:03 PM
SUCK COCK.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: faust on July 15, 2007, 10:16:52 PM

this thread.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 15, 2007, 10:17:27 PM
Quote from: Kaienne on July 15, 2007, 10:15:03 PM
SUCK COCK.

TMI.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Thurnez Isa on July 15, 2007, 10:36:13 PM
Quote from: Kaienne on July 15, 2007, 10:15:03 PM
SUCK COCK.

STOP PLAYING WITH MY NOTIONS OF GENDER

:D
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 15, 2007, 10:41:50 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on July 15, 2007, 10:36:13 PM
Quote from: Kaienne on July 15, 2007, 10:15:03 PM
SUCK COCK.

STOP PLAYING WITH MY NOTIONS OF GENDER

:D

:lulz:
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Cain on July 15, 2007, 11:04:45 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on July 15, 2007, 10:36:13 PM
Quote from: Kaienne on July 15, 2007, 10:15:03 PM
SUCK COCK.

STOP PLAYING WITH MY NOTIONS OF GENDER

:D

FUCK YOU, NOTIONS OF GENDER KILLED MY MOTHER!
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Kaienne on July 16, 2007, 02:10:24 AM
Oh yeah, I heard about that.
Tough break, man. I mean, sucking cocks in hell for all eternity?
That's a shitty way for her to go. :(
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 16, 2007, 02:24:20 AM
Quote from: Kaienne on July 16, 2007, 02:10:24 AM
Oh yeah, I heard about that.
Tough break, man. I mean, sucking cocks in hell for all eternity?
That's a shitty way for her to go. :(

Hmm.

Was that supposed to be funny?  Or are you just a useless shithead?
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Thurnez Isa on July 16, 2007, 02:31:10 AM
but...
he's an "IDEAL DISCORDIST"

now if you would shut up you might learn something...
:lol:
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 16, 2007, 02:43:47 AM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on July 16, 2007, 02:31:10 AM
but...
he's an "IDEAL DISCORDIST"

now if you would shut up you might learn something...
:lol:

Probably.

But I think I'd rather just go berserk and flame the little POS furry til he leaves instead.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on July 16, 2007, 02:44:18 AM
Quote from: Kaienne on July 11, 2007, 05:31:34 PM
IMO ONLY

One who is quick to anger, quick to forgive, quick to the draw, quick to love, quick to fall out of love, quick to give up in lack of interest, quick to suddenly revive old strings of thought previously abandoned due to lack of interest, quick to eat fresh, quick to squick, quick to do nice things for random people for no good reason, quick to react in a witty fashion when a random people does a nice thing for no good reason, and quick to always consult his or her pineal gland, naturally.

Also someone very slow, calm, and serene.

Oh, shut the hell up, you pretentious gasbag.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: faust on July 16, 2007, 10:42:43 AM
I get it. you lied about your age. you are actually still in the annoying full of yourself naval gazing phase.  come back in a few years  Kaienne when you have something of interest to say that is not someone else's opinion you are repeating to sound cool.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Cain on July 20, 2007, 12:26:47 PM
Quote from: Kaienne on July 16, 2007, 02:10:24 AM
Oh yeah, I heard about that.
Tough break, man. I mean, sucking cocks in hell for all eternity?
That's a shitty way for her to go. :(

How does that even follow from what I said?  Did you actually sit down and think "I'm going to be really cutting and witty to Cain here" and then write the above crap, or did it just come out in some sort of stream of consciousness?  I'm not sure which would be more worrying for your mental state.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Jasper on July 20, 2007, 06:25:09 PM
Inept repartee ITT
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Sabotage on August 04, 2007, 03:19:38 AM
QuoteWhat makes an ideal Discordian?

.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Discord on August 04, 2007, 10:06:20 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on July 16, 2007, 02:31:10 AM
but...
he's an "IDEAL DISCORDIST"

now if you would shut up you might learn something...
:lol:

Wait... thats not a girl? oforf....

Anyway, im so discordian im in the "Discordia" Group on studivz.net  :lulz:
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 06, 2007, 12:07:17 AM
Quote from: Sabotage on August 04, 2007, 03:19:38 AM
QuoteWhat makes an ideal Discordian?

.

Wow.  You sure mindfucked us, dude!  It's almost like I had Kerry Thornely down my fucking pants, jamming a copy of the PD up my colon!

YOU'RE MY FUCKING HERO, YOU DUMBSHIT!
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: BumWurst on August 06, 2007, 12:08:01 AM
Hands up if you thought Kaienne was a girl? :wave:
I award him the horsie of slightly sinister gender ambiguity. :hosrie:
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 06, 2007, 04:11:03 AM
Quote from: BumWurst on August 06, 2007, 12:08:01 AM
Hands up if you thought Kaienne was a girl? :wave:
I award him the horsie of slightly sinister gender ambiguity. :hosrie:

(http://www.sfgate.com/g/pictures/2005/08/11/sweeney_pat.jpg)

It's PAT!
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Sabotage on August 06, 2007, 08:18:55 PM
(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/1814/38353prisonbitchyi3.gif)
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: AFK on August 06, 2007, 08:21:02 PM
 :boring:
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: Sabotage on August 06, 2007, 08:27:10 PM


Posted by: The Good Reverend Roger
QuoteWow.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 07, 2007, 03:03:51 AM
Quote from: Sabotage on August 06, 2007, 08:27:10 PM


Posted by: The Good Reverend Roger
QuoteWow.

Damn.  Shut the fuck up.

TGRR,
Wonders who let the bobbie in.
Title: Re: What makes an ideal Discordian?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on August 07, 2007, 03:04:47 AM
Quote from: Sabotage on August 06, 2007, 08:18:55 PM
(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/1814/38353prisonbitchyi3.gif)

Quotes from bad Patrick Swayze flicks mixed with bad art FTL.

Get a life, loser.