The only appropriate response to the mechanics of this planet is total madness.
Every conclusion we ever make about anything is based on an observation of an unbelievably tiny portion of the universe. We can't even pay attention to everything happening in our house at once, let alone our street, city, state, country, planet, solar system, galaxy; we've managed to discern through archaic tools the existence of an entire spectrum of light and sound we are physically incapable of witnessing ourselves, every opinion, every fact, every single thing we base our purpose and entire life on is inherently a woefully under-informed position, there is no truth, anywhere, I can't believe so many people claim to know the ups and downs and moral code of all of reality, I am not proud to be an American or a relatively-hairless ape, this charade has gone too far, the only thing to be done in the face of all this absurdity is to go totally nuts - quoting Mark Hammill's Joker, "It gets easier once you give in... it really does."
The idea that the meat industry can amount to a daily holocaust, enabled by this worldwide apathy, boggles my mind. So many things about this state boggle my mind. This backwards ban against public masturbation / fucking is a crime against humanity and all of evolution. When I get in these moods I feel like if I were in public I'd just start jacking off. Consider it a case of civil disobedience. I've been hearing about various trickster gods out of the corner of my ear ever since I was a little boy and now a bad case of apparent manic-depression has led me to relate more to The Mask (the Jim Carrey film) than I ever thought possible.
I know all of you have already encountered these ideas but they're just now really sinking into my brain and the stain they leave is going to be very ugly looking to some people
Hi my name is Jack and I'm a psychoholic.
"Or kill me."
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:17:09 PM
The only appropriate response to the mechanics of this planet is total madness.
Sure...if you're yellow.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:17:09 PM
The idea that the meat industry can amount to a daily holocaust, enabled by this worldwide apathy, boggles my mind.
So it's your position that Jews = cattle?
http://www.fredvanlente.com/cthulhutract/pages/index.html
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:17:09 PM
Every conclusion we ever make about anything is based on an observation of an unbelievably tiny portion of the universe. We can't even pay attention to everything happening in our house at once, let alone our street, city, state, country, planet, solar system, galaxy; we've managed to discern through archaic tools the existence of an entire spectrum of light and sound we are physically incapable of witnessing ourselves, every opinion, every fact, every single thing we base our purpose and entire life on is inherently a woefully under-informed position, there is no truth, anywhere...
And yet, and yet... When I wake up in the morning, it's all still there.
Quote from: LMNO on June 24, 2010, 06:25:58 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:17:09 PM
Every conclusion we ever make about anything is based on an observation of an unbelievably tiny portion of the universe. We can't even pay attention to everything happening in our house at once, let alone our street, city, state, country, planet, solar system, galaxy; we've managed to discern through archaic tools the existence of an entire spectrum of light and sound we are physically incapable of witnessing ourselves, every opinion, every fact, every single thing we base our purpose and entire life on is inherently a woefully under-informed position, there is no truth, anywhere...
And yet, and yet... When I wake up in the morning, it's all still there.
Why look for The Truth, why sweat over it, when you can just whimper and moan, while listening to Linkin Park and feeling the mascara being pulled down your face by your bitter, bitter tears of disillusionment?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2010, 06:27:57 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 24, 2010, 06:25:58 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:17:09 PM
Every conclusion we ever make about anything is based on an observation of an unbelievably tiny portion of the universe. We can't even pay attention to everything happening in our house at once, let alone our street, city, state, country, planet, solar system, galaxy; we've managed to discern through archaic tools the existence of an entire spectrum of light and sound we are physically incapable of witnessing ourselves, every opinion, every fact, every single thing we base our purpose and entire life on is inherently a woefully under-informed position, there is no truth, anywhere...
And yet, and yet... When I wake up in the morning, it's all still there.
Why look for The Truth, why sweat over it, when you can just whimper and moan, while listening to Linkin Park and feeling the mascara being pulled down your face by your bitter, bitter tears of disillusionment?
People still listen to Linkin Park?
I'm going to give this noob a chance :D
Mainly so I can play good-cop bad-cop with Doc Howl - yes I'm that bored
Also he said "manic depression" and "psychoholic" would someone mind jumping on that - I'm too busy being nice and shit
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 06:29:06 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2010, 06:27:57 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 24, 2010, 06:25:58 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:17:09 PM
Every conclusion we ever make about anything is based on an observation of an unbelievably tiny portion of the universe. We can't even pay attention to everything happening in our house at once, let alone our street, city, state, country, planet, solar system, galaxy; we've managed to discern through archaic tools the existence of an entire spectrum of light and sound we are physically incapable of witnessing ourselves, every opinion, every fact, every single thing we base our purpose and entire life on is inherently a woefully under-informed position, there is no truth, anywhere...
And yet, and yet... When I wake up in the morning, it's all still there.
Why look for The Truth, why sweat over it, when you can just whimper and moan, while listening to Linkin Park and feeling the mascara being pulled down your face by your bitter, bitter tears of disillusionment?
People still listen to Linkin Park?
Okay, Red Jumpsuit Apparatus. Whatever.
He's a "horned and hoofed shaman" of some sort, so I really should have seen this coming. Reminds me...The Devil's (Discordian) Dictionary really needs an entry on "Shamans".
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 24, 2010, 06:29:25 PM
I'm going to give this noob a chance :D
Mainly so I can play good-cop bad-cop with Doc Howl - yes I'm that bored
Right. You offer him a coffee, and I'll kick the folding chair out from underneath him when he takes his first sip. Just like old times!
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 24, 2010, 06:30:40 PM
Also he said "manic depression" and "psychoholic" would someone mind jumping on that - I'm too busy being nice and shit
OH, HOW LONG CAN DOKTOR VITRIOL RESIST? HOW LONG CAN HE HOLD OUT FROM JUMPING ON THE HORNED. AND HOOFED. SHAMAN?
I don't know man, I prefer to masturbate/fuck in the privacy of my home for comfort reasons. Concrete on naked skin isn't very pleasant.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:36:14 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 06:29:06 PM
People still listen to Linkin Park?
I certainly don't.
What I meant to express here wasn't a position of negativity, more just, having my mind recently blown by the "maybe logic" idea, etc, I find myself baffled as to what to do with my time here on Earth.
Oh, shit. MLA braincramp in progress. Someone get some Death Coffee™, quick
1!
1 For me and Dok Vitriol. I'm staying up til this explosion of meatsacky goodness has ended, and I suspect Dok V will, too.
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 06:36:49 PM
I don't know man, I prefer to masturbate/fuck in the privacy of my home for comfort reasons. Concrete on naked skin isn't very pleasant.
I still want to know why he compares Jews to cattle.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:36:14 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 06:29:06 PM
People still listen to Linkin Park?
I certainly don't.
What I meant to express here wasn't a position of negativity, more just, having my mind recently blown by the "maybe logic" idea, etc, I find myself baffled as to what to do with my time here on Earth.
That's easy. Have fun.
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 06:39:31 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:36:14 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 06:29:06 PM
People still listen to Linkin Park?
I certainly don't.
What I meant to express here wasn't a position of negativity, more just, having my mind recently blown by the "maybe logic" idea, etc, I find myself baffled as to what to do with my time here on Earth.
That's easy. Have fun.
Stop that shit, NT. Can't you see he's srsly srs?
Let's not tear this one apart too quickly. Look at the substance of the post:
1. Indeed, do many things come to pass. More than we can ever hope to see.
2. Given that, how can people ever make definitive statements about reality, or even morality?
Those are two things we've been kicking about for a while.
And then... Oh.
I just re-read the second paragraph. He appears to be a Publicly Masturbating Vegan.
And a self-diagnosed schizophrenic.
Ah.
Carry on.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2010, 06:38:51 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 06:36:49 PM
I don't know man, I prefer to masturbate/fuck in the privacy of my home for comfort reasons. Concrete on naked skin isn't very pleasant.
I still want to know why he compares Jews to cattle.
Probably a vegetarian
Quote from: LMNO on June 24, 2010, 06:40:25 PM
Let's not tear this one apart too quickly. Look at the substance of the post:
1. Indeed, do many things come to pass. More than we can ever hope to see.
2. Given that, how can people ever make definitive statements about reality, or even morality?
Those are two things we've been kicking about for a while.
And then... Oh.
I just re-read the second paragraph. He appears to be a Publicly Masturbating Vegan.
And a self-diagnosed schizophrenic.
Ah.
Carry on.
It's like we're at the bottom of the slide at 43 Chromosome Park! :lulz:
Quote from: LMNO on June 24, 2010, 06:40:25 PM
Let's not tear this one apart too quickly. Look at the substance of the post:
1. Indeed, do many things come to pass. More than we can ever hope to see.
2. Given that, how can people ever make definitive statements about reality, or even morality?
Those are two things we've been kicking about for a while.
And then... Oh.
I just re-read the second paragraph. He appears to be a Publicly Masturbating Vegan.
And a self-diagnosed schizophrenic.
Ah.
Carry on.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 06:41:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2010, 06:38:51 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 06:36:49 PM
I don't know man, I prefer to masturbate/fuck in the privacy of my home for comfort reasons. Concrete on naked skin isn't very pleasant.
I still want to know why he compares Jews to cattle.
Probably a vegetarian
My daughter's friend is a vegetarian. She doesn't compare Jews to cattle, though.
For health reasons, 80% of my diet is vegetable-based. Yet I don't look at Anne Frank and see a steer.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:42:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2010, 06:38:51 PM
I still want to know why he compares Jews to cattle.
It wasn't about jews, it was about sentients being skinned alive, etc, general nightmarish stuff. My point was the apparent absurdity of the world.
Cows are sentient?
Cows are
prey.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:42:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2010, 06:38:51 PM
I still want to know why he compares Jews to cattle.
It wasn't about jews, it was about sentients being skinned alive, etc, general nightmarish stuff. My point was the apparent absurdity of the world.
Cows aren't sentient. Unless you can prove otherwise.
Also, there is not a single slaughterhouse in America that skins animals alive. Have you ever been in a slaughterhouse, and seen it in operation, or are you relying on PITA's "informative" website?
Jesus H Christ, who the fuck would try to section a live fucking cow, let alone skin one? The animal's struggles would destroy the hide, as well as knock the slaughterhouse worker through the fucking wall.
Quote from: LMNO on June 24, 2010, 06:45:07 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:42:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2010, 06:38:51 PM
I still want to know why he compares Jews to cattle.
It wasn't about jews, it was about sentients being skinned alive, etc, general nightmarish stuff. My point was the apparent absurdity of the world.
Cows are sentient?
Cows are prey.
They're also quite tasty.
It's a shame about cows tho...
Fuck me I'm not finding this easy :x
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 24, 2010, 06:47:03 PM
It's a shame about cows tho...
Fuck me I'm not finding this easy :x
It's entertaining as hell to those of us who know you, though.
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 24, 2010, 06:47:03 PM
It's a shame about cows tho...
Fuck me I'm not finding this easy :x
HOW
LONG CAN HE RESIST THE SHINY...BRAND NEW...NOOB?
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 24, 2010, 06:47:03 PM
It's a shame about cows tho...
Fuck me I'm not finding this easy :x
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa66/dracolupus/devilSHOULDER_edited-1.jpg)
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:53:23 PM
So I put some shit in the second paragraph that applied to me personally, apparently a harsh contrast with the 1st one. I didn't realize it would break your guys' balls.
If this is what "broken balls" feel like, I need to hire a couple of midgets and give them road hammers. :lol:
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:53:23 PM
So I put some shit in the second paragraph that applied to me personally, apparently a harsh contrast with the 1st one. I didn't realize it would break your guys' balls.
So, you
DO masturbate in public?
No breakage here dude. It's just kinda, you know, asking for mockery?
Now, now everybody, lets not be so hasty.
There there lovely noob get a fucking grip of your dumb fuck erm ... I'm sure that's not what you meant ... CUNT! or something
Aw fuck it - I'm done :evilmad:
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 06:57:04 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:53:23 PM
So I put some shit in the second paragraph that applied to me personally, apparently a harsh contrast with the 1st one. I didn't realize it would break your guys' balls.
So, you DO masturbate in public?
No breakage here dude. It's just kinda, you know, asking for mockery?
You're such a nice guy, NT. I can see you need more "therapy". Oh, yes.
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 24, 2010, 06:59:33 PM
Now, now everybody, lets not be so hasty.
There there lovely noob get a fucking grip of your dumb fuck erm ... I'm sure that's not what you meant ... CUNT! or something
Aw fuck it - I'm done :evilmad:
Three pages, though. That's a personal best for you, isn't it?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2010, 07:00:20 PM
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 24, 2010, 06:59:33 PM
Now, now everybody, lets not be so hasty.
There there lovely noob get a fucking grip of your dumb fuck erm ... I'm sure that's not what you meant ... CUNT! or something
Aw fuck it - I'm done :evilmad:
Three pages, though. That's a personal best for you, isn't it?
His avatar looks like enkii in pink - it was just too fucking much- even for a saint like me :x
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 07:00:33 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 06:57:04 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:53:23 PM
So I put some shit in the second paragraph that applied to me personally, apparently a harsh contrast with the 1st one. I didn't realize it would break your guys' balls.
So, you DO masturbate in public?
No breakage here dude. It's just kinda, you know, asking for mockery?
Well, no, I don't, but if I did, I wouldn't take myself very seriously in the act, hurr durr
If that avatar is from life, then I wouldn't either.
Also, do you really have hooves? I mean, that would be fucking awesome, especially when people crowd you on the train.
Lastly, check your PMs. Or don't.
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 24, 2010, 07:01:01 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2010, 07:00:20 PM
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 24, 2010, 06:59:33 PM
Now, now everybody, lets not be so hasty.
There there lovely noob get a fucking grip of your dumb fuck erm ... I'm sure that's not what you meant ... CUNT! or something
Aw fuck it - I'm done :evilmad:
Three pages, though. That's a personal best for you, isn't it?
His avatar looks like enkii in pink - it was just too fucking much- even for a saint like me :x
Watch your gob, mate, or he'll hoof your arse, dead in the junk.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 07:00:33 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 06:57:04 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:53:23 PM
So I put some shit in the second paragraph that applied to me personally, apparently a harsh contrast with the 1st one. I didn't realize it would break your guys' balls.
So, you DO masturbate in public?
No breakage here dude. It's just kinda, you know, asking for mockery?
Well, no, I don't, but if I did, I wouldn't take myself very seriously in the act, hurr durr
Well, wouldn't you be? I mean you'd be doing it to piss of THE MAN, wouldn't you?
Activist masturbation- what happens when even hippies won't give you some.
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 07:03:23 PM
Well, wouldn't you be? I mean you'd be doing it to piss of THE MAN, wouldn't you?
And LMNO and I, as representatives from "The Man" sector, do not appreciate it, I can tell you.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2010, 06:59:53 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 06:57:04 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:53:23 PM
So I put some shit in the second paragraph that applied to me personally, apparently a harsh contrast with the 1st one. I didn't realize it would break your guys' balls.
So, you DO masturbate in public?
No breakage here dude. It's just kinda, you know, asking for mockery?
You're such a nice guy, NT. I can see you need more "therapy". Oh, yes.
I can't help it sometimes, Dok.
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 07:03:23 PM
Activist masturbation- what happens when even hippies won't give you some.
This really ought to be some kind of poster. Which reminds me - the squid thing from pic this am - bbiab ...
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 24, 2010, 07:06:11 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 07:03:23 PM
Activist masturbation- what happens when even hippies won't give you some.
This really ought to be some kind of poster. Which reminds me - the squid thing from pic this am - bbiab ...
:lulz:
I'll see what I can do this weekend
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:53:23 PM
So I put some shit in the second paragraph that applied to me personally, apparently a harsh contrast with the 1st one. I didn't realize it would break your guys' balls.
Well, let's just focus on the first paragraph.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:17:09 PM
The only appropriate response to the mechanics of this planet is total madness.
Every conclusion we ever make about anything is based on an observation of an unbelievably tiny portion of the universe. We can't even pay attention to everything happening in our house at once, let alone our street, city, state, country, planet, solar system, galaxy; we've managed to discern through archaic tools the existence of an entire spectrum of light and sound we are physically incapable of witnessing ourselves, every opinion, every fact, every single thing we base our purpose and entire life on is inherently a woefully under-informed position, there is no truth, anywhere, I can't believe so many people claim to know the ups and downs and moral code of all of reality, I am not proud to be an American or a relatively-hairless ape, this charade has gone too far, the only thing to be done in the face of all this absurdity is to go totally nuts - quoting Mark Hammill's Joker, "It gets easier once you give in... it really does."
1. Indeed, do many things come to pass. More than we can ever hope to see.
2. Given that, how can people ever make definitive statements about reality, or even morality?
3. Therefore, the USA sucks, I don't like being human, so let's go crazy.
I don't think your conclusion matches up with your premise. Please clarify.
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 07:04:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2010, 06:59:53 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 06:57:04 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:53:23 PM
So I put some shit in the second paragraph that applied to me personally, apparently a harsh contrast with the 1st one. I didn't realize it would break your guys' balls.
So, you DO masturbate in public?
No breakage here dude. It's just kinda, you know, asking for mockery?
You're such a nice guy, NT. I can see you need more "therapy". Oh, yes.
I can't help it sometimes, Dok.
Ah, well. Bitter old cynics aren't built in a day. :lulz:
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 07:17:29 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 07:03:23 PM
Well, wouldn't you be? I mean you'd be doing it to piss of THE MAN, wouldn't you?
No, only for kicks.
"I'm the man and you're the man and he's the man as well," etc.
P.S brotatoes I'm not any kind of pagan, etc, no religious nonsense, so if you're getting that from my decorative text, don't
No, actually, LMNO and I are The Man. Richter is a candidate for The Man-ness, but he has 5-10 years before he will have wormed his way high enough up into the corporate structure.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 07:17:29 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 07:03:23 PM
Well, wouldn't you be? I mean you'd be doing it to piss of THE MAN, wouldn't you?
No, only for kicks.
"I'm the man and you're the man and he's the man as well," etc.
P.S brotatoes I'm not any kind of pagan, etc, no religious nonsense, so if you're getting that from my decorative text, don't
Improper use of "Hooker With a Penis"
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2010, 07:20:44 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 07:17:29 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 07:03:23 PM
Well, wouldn't you be? I mean you'd be doing it to piss of THE MAN, wouldn't you?
No, only for kicks.
"I'm the man and you're the man and he's the man as well," etc.
P.S brotatoes I'm not any kind of pagan, etc, no religious nonsense, so if you're getting that from my decorative text, don't
No, actually, LMNO and I are The Man. Richter is a candidate for The Man-ness, but he has 5-10 years before he will have wormed his way high enough up into the corporate structure.
This is True. Dok works in Big Oil, I work in Big Finance.
Both of us are White Males.
BUT ONLY ONE OF US HAS A FABULOUS MOUSTACHE.
Quote from: LMNO on June 24, 2010, 07:23:37 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2010, 07:20:44 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 07:17:29 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 07:03:23 PM
Well, wouldn't you be? I mean you'd be doing it to piss of THE MAN, wouldn't you?
No, only for kicks.
"I'm the man and you're the man and he's the man as well," etc.
P.S brotatoes I'm not any kind of pagan, etc, no religious nonsense, so if you're getting that from my decorative text, don't
No, actually, LMNO and I are The Man. Richter is a candidate for The Man-ness, but he has 5-10 years before he will have wormed his way high enough up into the corporate structure.
This is True. Dok works in Big Oil, I work in Big Finance.
Both of us are White Males.
BUT ONLY ONE OF US HAS A FABULOUS MOUSTACHE.
Dok's working on that though
Quote from: LMNO on June 24, 2010, 07:23:37 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2010, 07:20:44 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 07:17:29 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 07:03:23 PM
Well, wouldn't you be? I mean you'd be doing it to piss of THE MAN, wouldn't you?
No, only for kicks.
"I'm the man and you're the man and he's the man as well," etc.
P.S brotatoes I'm not any kind of pagan, etc, no religious nonsense, so if you're getting that from my decorative text, don't
No, actually, LMNO and I are The Man. Richter is a candidate for The Man-ness, but he has 5-10 years before he will have wormed his way high enough up into the corporate structure.
This is True. Dok works in Big Oil, I work in Big Finance.
Both of us are White Males.
BUT ONLY ONE OF US HAS A FABULOUS MOUSTACHE.
I have the classic corporate villain face, whereas LMNO looks like he staggered out of Tammany Hall with his lungs half full of lobbyist semen.
I'm not The Man, but I have his children in a safe location.
Well, safe for now.
Quote from: Cain on June 24, 2010, 07:25:10 PM
I'm not The Man, but I have his children in a safe location.
Well, safe for now.
You're young yet, Cain. You will be The Man one day, if anyone will.
Or they'll chop you into bits and stuff you in a 55 gal drum. One or the other.
The two need not be mutually exclusive. Or in that exact order.
Quote from: Cain on June 24, 2010, 07:28:49 PM
The two need not be mutually exclusive. Or in that exact order.
Point.
OK, Jack, since I'm crashing in your thread, I may as well make some points about your rant:
You do realize actually Really Real Crimes Against Humanity are happening right now that make not being allowed to masturbate in public look like a minor issue? Not to harsh on your buzz man, but right now we send out killer robots to bomb villages and kidnap people and slice their testicles with scalpels, while asking them questions they cannot answer. We lock up 15 year old children on no charge, and then when no evidence can be found to justify their detention, change the laws to keep them in. We carry out medical experiments on kidnapped people who may be, but are probably not, guilty of terrorism charges.
Starting to see my point here?
Same again for the meat. Meat is not murder. It is unpleasant (for the animal certainly), messy and not always economical. However, it is also tasty, and most animals, at least in the western world, have a far better standard of life than they do in the wild, where their domesticated nature and inability to flourish in a natural environment would quickly lead to their extinction at the hand of some very amazed predators.
If you want to see a real, modern day holocaust, you could always go to Sri Lanka, where they're herding the Tamil population into concentration camps, probably as a prelude to a massacre. You could go to Gaza City, kept under a blockade designed as part of an "economic warfare" program to starve and deplete the Palestinians there into defeat. You could at Chinese attempts at ethnic cleansing in Tibet, or the many, many examples of genocide in central African wars, where the chief tactic is to ride into a village with a bunch of armed men and kill everyone, then vanish back into the jungle.
I guess what I'm saying is your hyperbole betrays a lack of understanding of the world, and your concerns are very small in relation to what is actually going on, and either you have not attempted to educate yourself on these topics or simply do not care.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2010, 07:24:40 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 24, 2010, 07:23:37 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2010, 07:20:44 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 07:17:29 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 07:03:23 PM
Well, wouldn't you be? I mean you'd be doing it to piss of THE MAN, wouldn't you?
No, only for kicks.
"I'm the man and you're the man and he's the man as well," etc.
P.S brotatoes I'm not any kind of pagan, etc, no religious nonsense, so if you're getting that from my decorative text, don't
No, actually, LMNO and I are The Man. Richter is a candidate for The Man-ness, but he has 5-10 years before he will have wormed his way high enough up into the corporate structure.
This is True. Dok works in Big Oil, I work in Big Finance.
Both of us are White Males.
BUT ONLY ONE OF US HAS A FABULOUS MOUSTACHE.
I have the classic corporate villain face, whereas LMNO looks like he staggered out of Tammany Hall with his lungs half full of lobbyist semen.
(http://www.ohsnap.ca/img/thumbnails/oh-snap.jpg)
Also, because it's too good to threadjack:
Quote from: Cain on June 24, 2010, 07:40:57 PM
OK, Jack, since I'm crashing in your thread, I may as well make some points about your rant:
You do realize actually Really Real Crimes Against Humanity are happening right now that make not being allowed to masturbate in public look like a minor issue? Not to harsh on your buzz man, but right now we send out killer robots to bomb villages and kidnap people and slice their testicles with scalpels, while asking them questions they cannot answer. We lock up 15 year old children on no charge, and then when no evidence can be found to justify their detention, change the laws to keep them in. We carry out medical experiments on kidnapped people who may be, but are probably not, guilty of terrorism charges.
Starting to see my point here?
Same again for the meat. Meat is not murder. It is unpleasant (for the animal certainly), messy and not always economical. However, it is also tasty, and most animals, at least in the western world, have a far better standard of life than they do in the wild, where their domesticated nature and inability to flourish in a natural environment would quickly lead to their extinction at the hand of some very amazed predators.
If you want to see a real, modern day holocaust, you could always go to Sri Lanka, where they're herding the Tamil population into concentration camps, probably as a prelude to a massacre. You could go to Gaza City, kept under a blockade designed as part of an "economic warfare" program to starve and deplete the Palestinians there into defeat. You could at Chinese attempts at ethnic cleansing in Tibet, or the many, many examples of genocide in central African wars, where the chief tactic is to ride into a village with a bunch of armed men and kill everyone, then vanish back into the jungle.
I guess what I'm saying is your hyperbole betrays a lack of understanding of the world, and your concerns are very small in relation to what is actually going on, and either you have not attempted to educate yourself on these topics or simply do not care.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 07:49:01 PM
Okay, Cain, thank you.
I guess a better introduction would have been, I'm here to learn. I was just pissed off at the time and tried to be creative about it.
Good, good. Being pissed off is a good place to start, but the thing is, you have to be pissed off at something
appropriate, not just Fiona Apple's cause of the day.
If you looked around for a bit, and saw how you're REALLY being fucked, you'd be a lot MORE pissed off than you are at some jackass running a factory farm (You know, the ones that mean you can eat whatever you please, whenever you please).
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 07:49:01 PM
Okay, Cain, thank you.
I guess a better introduction would have been, I'm here to learn. I was just pissed off at the time and tried to be creative about it.
That's fine and good but speaking about the evils of meat and keeping your pants on around children is silly, as Cain has pointed out.
Edit: 43 posts to go then?
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 07:53:46 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 07:49:01 PM
Okay, Cain, thank you.
I guess a better introduction would have been, I'm here to learn. I was just pissed off at the time and tried to be creative about it.
That's fine and good but speaking about the evils of meat and keeping your pants on around children is silly, as Cain has pointed out.
Edit: 43 posts to go then?
Reserving judgment here. The initial post may have been retarded, but based on subsequent posts and one PM, I think this guy might be a human stuck in a meme, instead of the other way around.
Not saying he's a biped, mind you, I'm saying I don't know.
OK Jack. I'll give you a couple of links, to people who generally report on things you may find disturbing, but are pretty much worth knowing:
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/index.html
http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/
http://exiledonline.com/
http://www.atimes.com/
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/
Right, that's your starter for 10. You don't have to read these every day, but doing so will give you a good idea of what is going on "out there". Better than that, they'll also get you acquainted with several of the key movers and shakers in how we all live our lives, as well as how business is really done in this cut-throat world of ours.
That's only a beginning, of course. But sooner or later, you'll develop the bullshit detectors which will allow you to parse everyday news and events and understand the reality behind it. This is just the quicker way of doing it.
:quietly bookmarks the above links:
QuoteI'm here to learn.
Well, if he's being honest about that part, then he's okay in my book.
Howdy, Jack. Names Dr. James Semaj. Welcome.
Quotehttp://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/index.html
http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/
http://exiledonline.com/
http://www.atimes.com/
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/
Awesome. Bookmarking all of this.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:17:09 PM
The only appropriate response to the mechanics of this planet is total madness.
Well, madness isn't all that bad... depends on what kind of mad and how you use it. Madness is a more elegant weapon for a more civilized time.
Quote
Every conclusion we ever make about anything is based on an observation of an unbelievably tiny portion of the universe. We can't even pay attention to everything happening in our house at once, let alone our street, city, state, country, planet, solar system, galaxy; we've managed to discern through archaic tools the existence of an entire spectrum of light and sound we are physically incapable of witnessing ourselves, every opinion, every fact, every single thing we base our purpose and entire life on is inherently a woefully under-informed position, there is no truth, anywhere, I can't believe so many people claim to know the ups and downs and moral code of all of reality, I am not proud to be an American or a relatively-hairless ape, this charade has gone too far, the only thing to be done in the face of all this absurdity is to go totally nuts - quoting Mark Hammill's Joker, "It gets easier once you give in... it really does."
Ah, the black hole at the end of the tunnel, eh? Well, chin up me boyo! In the face of the absurdity of reality, you have many choices. The trick is to realize that YOU have the choices and YOU can pick your own trip. If you want the trip to be a dark madness distraught over the banality of modern existence and the imprecise nature of our perception, then thats cool, it can be an interesting trip, particularly if you work it all out in music or art. However, you have other options. You can choose to enjoy your life, your existence, your crazy trip to the very wild circus that is our time on this planet.
Recognizing that, if we are honest with ourselves, there appears little certainty and lots of doubt in what we 'know' doesn't have to be a bad thing. Hell, it can be like breaking the chains and breaking open the head all at once! I think the darker trip generally focuses on the poor folks walking around THINKING that they KNOW (and blogging about it!), but you can apply it personally and realize that (to steal a line from Bob) Reality is what you can get away with. If you were once a slave to a 'TRUTH', you get the option to break your chains! You can believe 5 impossible things every day if you want. Or you can believe the Christians for a month, then the Buddhists, then the Scientific Materialists, then the Absurdists, then the Universalists, then maybe the Thelemics and the Satanists for a laugh...
Recognizing the limits of certainty can be scary, but it can also be incredibly freeing.
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The idea that the meat industry can amount to a daily holocaust, enabled by this worldwide apathy, boggles my mind. So many things about this state boggle my mind. This backwards ban against public masturbation / fucking is a crime against humanity and all of evolution. When I get in these moods I feel like if I were in public I'd just start jacking off. Consider it a case of civil disobedience. I've been hearing about various trickster gods out of the corner of my ear ever since I was a little boy and now a bad case of apparent manic-depression has led me to relate more to The Mask (the Jim Carrey film) than I ever thought possible.
I know all of you have already encountered these ideas but they're just now really sinking into my brain and the stain they leave is going to be very ugly looking to some people
Hi my name is Jack and I'm a psychoholic.
"Or kill me."
I think other people already smacked you with a tuna on this paragraph, so I'll let it be.
Everything is True in Some Sense, False in Some Sense and Meaningless in Some Sense.
Be warned: Ratatosk is a shill for the Maybe Logic Academy.
:crackhead: :asshat:
Quote from: LMNO on June 24, 2010, 08:21:51 PM
Be warned: Ratatosk is a shill for the Maybe Logic Academy.
:crackhead: :asshat:
Nothing wrong with the MLA, except that it's a very narrow slice of possibilities.
I know. I'm a proponent of fuzzy logic, myself. I just like poking Rat with sticks.
:pokewithstick:
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 09:09:46 PM
Btw I meant shaman in the jim morrison (minus being a drunk asshole), "5th circuit technician," entertaining people and maybe getting them interested in certain things. I'm a performer in a music group and I like to think of it in that way. So no, I don't carry around a wood staff that I've "sigilized the fuck out of", etc.
The horned and hooved part implied some sort of Cernunnos or Pan worship along with it.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 09:17:06 PM
So what if I like to ball?
And exactly what meme do you diagnosis me with Dok?
:?
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 09:09:46 PM
Btw I meant shaman in the jim morrison (minus being a drunk asshole), "5th circuit technician," entertaining people and maybe getting them interested in certain things. I'm a performer in a music group and I like to think of it in that way. So no, I don't carry around a wood staff that I've "sigilized the fuck out of", etc.
Jim Morrison wasn't a 5th circuit technician, he was a drug-addled singer.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 09:17:06 PM
So what if I like to ball?
And exactly what meme do you diagnosis me with Dok?
Shamanism. It's pseudo-hippyism mixed with the notion that the 8 circuit model is more than a model. Very common among RAW readers.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 09:45:19 PM
Is that not the equivalent of pan worship?
heh heh, i kid... somewhat
Oh, ball as in fuck? Ah.
Not knocking Pan worship at all. Just saying that combined with the shaman referrence raises an eyebrow or two for a new poster.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2010, 09:53:19 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 09:17:06 PM
So what if I like to ball?
And exactly what meme do you diagnosis me with Dok?
Shamanism. It's pseudo-hippyism mixed with the notion that the 8 circuit model is more than a model. Very common among RAW readers.
Use of the word ball backs this up, since it's used repeatedly in Illuminatus!
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2010, 09:53:19 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 09:17:06 PM
So what if I like to ball?
And exactly what meme do you diagnosis me with Dok?
Shamanism. It's pseudo-hippyism mixed with the notion that the 8 circuit model is more than a model. Very common among RAW readers.
Use of the word ball backs this up, since it's used repeatedly in Illuminatus!
Also, Carlos Castenada crap. It's basically a way of taking a muddied up view of the world, and making it muddier by putting someone else's definitions on it.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 24, 2010, 06:45:39 PM
Also, there is not a single slaughterhouse in America that skins animals alive. Have you ever been in a slaughterhouse, and seen it in operation, or are you relying on PITA's "informative" website?
Jesus H Christ, who the fuck would try to section a live fucking cow, let alone skin one? The animal's struggles would destroy the hide, as well as knock the slaughterhouse worker through the fucking wall.
they sort of do with baby chickens, don't they?
on the ingredients lists here (for cheap chicken nuggets things etc) they call it "chicken separator flesh", which means it was produced by a kind of machine that smashes them in a very particular way to separate the meat from the skin and bones.
I'm not sure if they kill them first, but why would they? The smashing does that quite effectively.
I am in two minds as to rip his second paragraph a new one about the mental health stuff. There is no pun intended but first I need the posters definition of psychosis.
Quote from: LMNO on June 24, 2010, 08:30:01 PM
I know. I'm a proponent of fuzzy logic, myself. I just like poking Rat with sticks.
:pokewithstick:
FUZZY LOGIC :argh!:
(sorry having a background in Machine Learning, the term "fuzzy logic" bring me similar rage as "quantum" does to some. it is a complete and utter useless type of "machine reasoning" currently only used in laundry machines and because the japanese liked the word "fuzzy" to do with semi-intelligent machines) (and yes I know you meant something else by "fuzzy logic", but that's where the term comes from)
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 09:09:46 PM
Btw I meant shaman in the jim morrison (minus being a drunk asshole), "5th circuit technician," entertaining people and maybe getting them interested in certain things. I'm a performer in a music group and I like to think of it in that way. So no, I don't carry around a wood staff that I've "sigilized the fuck out of", etc.
But you would, if you could charge your wood in public, right?
Quote from: Rainy Day Pixie on June 25, 2010, 12:05:16 AM
I am in two minds as to rip his second paragraph a new one about the mental health stuff. There is no pun intended but first I need the posters definition of psychosis.
:awesome:
Welcome to the crazy club! Now I guess you understand why I make such a big deal about fucking wannabe tourists who haven't earned the rights to use such words
My pet hate is obvious bubblegummers who tell me they are "depressed" but the "I'm so insane I wear odd coloured socks" brigade runs a close second. :argh!:
Quote from: Cain on June 24, 2010, 07:40:57 PM
OK, Jack, since I'm crashing in your thread, I may as well make some points about your rant:
You do realize actually Really Real Crimes Against Humanity are happening right now that make not being allowed to masturbate in public look like a minor issue? Not to harsh on your buzz man, but right now we send out killer robots to bomb villages and kidnap people and slice their testicles with scalpels, while asking them questions they cannot answer. We lock up 15 year old children on no charge, and then when no evidence can be found to justify their detention, change the laws to keep them in. We carry out medical experiments on kidnapped people who may be, but are probably not, guilty of terrorism charges.
Starting to see my point here?
Same again for the meat. Meat is not murder. It is unpleasant (for the animal certainly), messy and not always economical. However, it is also tasty, and most animals, at least in the western world, have a far better standard of life than they do in the wild, where their domesticated nature and inability to flourish in a natural environment would quickly lead to their extinction at the hand of some very amazed predators.
If you want to see a real, modern day holocaust, you could always go to Sri Lanka, where they're herding the Tamil population into concentration camps, probably as a prelude to a massacre. You could go to Gaza City, kept under a blockade designed as part of an "economic warfare" program to starve and deplete the Palestinians there into defeat. You could at Chinese attempts at ethnic cleansing in Tibet, or the many, many examples of genocide in central African wars, where the chief tactic is to ride into a village with a bunch of armed men and kill everyone, then vanish back into the jungle.
I guess what I'm saying is your hyperbole betrays a lack of understanding of the world, and your concerns are very small in relation to what is actually going on, and either you have not attempted to educate yourself on these topics or simply do not care.
Fucking yes, yes, yes.
I have to take exception to Rat's comment about there being nothing wrong with being mad.
"Mad" as in crazy.
Maybe you find the idea glamorous or entertaining, but there's really nothing awesome about it at all. I am pretty fucking sane but my brushes with mental illness (I have OCD, PTSD, and anxiety, and the epilepsy produces a fascinatingly close but blessedly temporary simile of psychosis) have been really awful and terrifying. My mother has borderline personality disorder and is a horrible person. I have bipolar friends who really struggle, and one schizophrenic friend who I have watched turn from promising young scholar to scary homeless person. My brother had depression; he put a gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger.
I don't think Pixie and Pent are having a truckload of fun, there, either.
I am fucking fed up to here with people who glamorize mental illness. "Nothing wrong with it" my ass.
Quote from: Nigel on June 25, 2010, 01:36:39 AM
I have to take exception to Rat's comment about there being nothing wrong with being mad.
"Mad" as in crazy.
Maybe you find the idea glamorous or entertaining, but there's really nothing awesome about it at all. I am pretty fucking sane but my brushes with mental illness (I have OCD, PTSD, and anxiety, and the epilepsy produces a fascinatingly close but blessedly temporary simile of psychosis) have been really awful and terrifying. My mother has borderline personality disorder and is a horrible person. I have bipolar friends who really struggle, and one schizophrenic friend who I have watched turn from promising young scholar to scary homeless person. My brother had depression; he put a gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger.
I don't think Pixie and Pent are having a truckload of fun, there, either.
I am fucking fed up to here with people who glamorize mental illness. "Nothing wrong with it" my ass.
Yeah, I remember early this year. Not fun.
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 24, 2010, 07:06:11 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 24, 2010, 07:03:23 PM
Activist masturbation- what happens when even hippies won't give you some.
This really ought to be some kind of poster. Which reminds me - the squid thing from pic this am - bbiab ...
Someone remind me of this on Saturday, btw.
Quote from: Nigel on June 25, 2010, 01:36:39 AM
I have to take exception to Rat's comment about there being nothing wrong with being mad.
"Mad" as in crazy.
Maybe you find the idea glamorous or entertaining, but there's really nothing awesome about it at all. I am pretty fucking sane but my brushes with mental illness (I have OCD, PTSD, and anxiety, and the epilepsy produces a fascinatingly close but blessedly temporary simile of psychosis) have been really awful and terrifying. My mother has borderline personality disorder and is a horrible person. I have bipolar friends who really struggle, and one schizophrenic friend who I have watched turn from promising young scholar to scary homeless person. My brother had depression; he put a gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger.
I don't think Pixie and Pent are having a truckload of fun, there, either.
I am fucking fed up to here with people who glamorize mental illness. "Nothing wrong with it" my ass.
There's a reason I called my series "Conversations from hell" and not "Conversations from Happy Fluffy Funland"
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 25, 2010, 07:44:16 AM
Quote from: Nigel on June 25, 2010, 01:36:39 AM
I have to take exception to Rat's comment about there being nothing wrong with being mad.
"Mad" as in crazy.
Maybe you find the idea glamorous or entertaining, but there's really nothing awesome about it at all. I am pretty fucking sane but my brushes with mental illness (I have OCD, PTSD, and anxiety, and the epilepsy produces a fascinatingly close but blessedly temporary simile of psychosis) have been really awful and terrifying. My mother has borderline personality disorder and is a horrible person. I have bipolar friends who really struggle, and one schizophrenic friend who I have watched turn from promising young scholar to scary homeless person. My brother had depression; he put a gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger.
I don't think Pixie and Pent are having a truckload of fun, there, either.
I am fucking fed up to here with people who glamorize mental illness. "Nothing wrong with it" my ass.
There's a reason I called my series "Conversations from hell" and not "Conversations from Happy Fluffy Funland"
And reading that series drives the point home. Not just for you, but everyone you spent time with there.
I havent got the joy of reading the entire thread, but, OP gives a good case of:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NietzscheWannabe (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NietzscheWannabe)
ETA: eh
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on June 25, 2010, 12:15:57 PM
I havent got the joy of reading the entire thread, but, OP gives a good case of:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NietzscheWannabe (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NietzscheWannabe)
ETA: eh
Attn Everybody: Stop posting tvtropes links - I can't clikc one of those fucking things without getting lost for hours on that fucking site :argh!:
On a side note somebody should do a "pdtropes" version
Quote from: Triple Zero on June 25, 2010, 12:05:29 AM
Quote from: LMNO on June 24, 2010, 08:30:01 PM
I know. I'm a proponent of fuzzy logic, myself. I just like poking Rat with sticks.
:pokewithstick:
FUZZY LOGIC :argh!:
(sorry having a background in Machine Learning, the term "fuzzy logic" bring me similar rage as "quantum" does to some. it is a complete and utter useless type of "machine reasoning" currently only used in laundry machines and because the japanese liked the word "fuzzy" to do with semi-intelligent machines) (and yes I know you meant something else by "fuzzy logic", but that's where the term comes from)
Would "Maybe Logic" work better for you? I got no problems using that term.
Quote from: LMNO on June 24, 2010, 08:21:51 PM
Be warned: Ratatosk is a shill for the Maybe Logic Academy.
:crackhead: :asshat:
:lulz:
QuoteI am fucking fed up to here with people who glamorize mental illness. "Nothing wrong with it" my ass.
A little madness, now and then, is relished by the wisest men.
That man lives best who's fain to live half mad, half sane
However, note that I didn't say "Having serious mental illnesses, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, Clinical Depression and Personality Disorders are a load of fun."
In short, one can be 'mad' without being ill.
Pendantic Discordians.com :lulz:
Wasn't there a rant about that sort of thing awhile back?
I'm still waiting for the OP to get back to me on the definition of psychosis.
If not I may rant that shit right up!
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 25, 2010, 03:43:07 PM
A little madness, now and then, is relished by the wisest men.
Jesus fucking Christ.
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 25, 2010, 03:43:07 PM
Pendantic Discordians.com :lulz:
Wasn't there a rant about that sort of thing awhile back?
Yeah, it was in the "Ratatosk is a worthless prick" thread.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 04:15:57 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 25, 2010, 03:43:07 PM
Pendantic Discordians.com :lulz:
Wasn't there a rant about that sort of thing awhile back?
Yeah, it was in the "Ratatosk is a worthless prick" thread.
Well, its nice to know we have something in common.
Words can mean anything now, folks!
Wheeeee! You are freed from the horrible, oppressive ability to communicate!
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 25, 2010, 03:43:07 PM
A little madness, now and then, is relished by the wisest men.
BECAUSE LOSING YOUR GIRL, SCARING THE SHIT OUT OF YOUR KIDS, AND ALIENATING MOST OF YOUR FRIENDS IS SOMETHING TO BE RELISHED!
HOT DAMN! WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT?
You fucking asshole.
While we're at it, a little full body paralysis goes down nicely every once in a while. Or so the wisest men say. It's very relaxing.
Also, carcinoma.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 04:26:12 PM
Words can mean anything now, folks!
Wheeeee! You are freed from the horrible, oppressive ability to communicate!
:spittake:
I actually shat in my mouth a little
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 25, 2010, 04:33:45 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 04:26:12 PM
Words can mean anything now, folks!
Wheeeee! You are freed from the horrible, oppressive ability to communicate!
:spittake:
I actually shat in my mouth a little
Sorry, I can't talk. I'm due to go a little mad and frighten my children half to death with the notion that their old man and sole means of support has lost his shit.
We wise men relish that shit.
Lots of poetic bullshit has been written about madness, usually either by people who have no idea what it is to really live that way or by sad, desperate writers seeking a silver lining in what is largely a torturous situation.
"Mad without being ill" is called PRETENTIOUS POSEUR JACKASS.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:17:09 PM
The only appropriate response to the mechanics of this planet is total madness.
Every conclusion we ever make about anything is based on an observation of an unbelievably tiny portion of the universe. We can't even pay attention to everything happening in our house at once, let alone our street, city, state, country, planet, solar system, galaxy; we've managed to discern through archaic tools the existence of an entire spectrum of light and sound we are physically incapable of witnessing ourselves, every opinion, every fact, every single thing we base our purpose and entire life on is inherently a woefully under-informed position, there is no truth, anywhere, I can't believe so many people claim to know the ups and downs and moral code of all of reality, I am not proud to be an American or a relatively-hairless ape, this charade has gone too far, the only thing to be done in the face of all this absurdity is to go totally nuts - quoting Mark Hammill's Joker, "It gets easier once you give in... it really does."
The idea that the meat industry can amount to a daily holocaust, enabled by this worldwide apathy, boggles my mind. So many things about this state boggle my mind. This backwards ban against public masturbation / fucking is a crime against humanity and all of evolution. When I get in these moods I feel like if I were in public I'd just start jacking off. Consider it a case of civil disobedience. I've been hearing about various trickster gods out of the corner of my ear ever since I was a little boy and now a bad case of apparent manic-depression has led me to relate more to The Mask (the Jim Carrey film) than I ever thought possible.
It irks me how cynics keep talking about going insane to escape from quiet desperation or whatever, and yet no one I know has really done it yet. In any case, I don't think that going insane will solve the problems of the world, or even make you happy "giving in" to them. If you want to give in and be happy, why not take advantage of them? Eat meat. Go partake of a hot dog on a Friday. Joyously.
Quote from: Nigel on June 25, 2010, 05:12:13 PM
Lots of poetic bullshit has been written about madness, usually either by people who have no idea what it is to really live that way or by sad, desperate writers seeking a silver lining in what is largely a torturous situation.
"Mad without being ill" is called PRETENTIOUS POSEUR JACKASS.
...And Nigel takes the pass and slam dunks it.
Unless Rat is defining madness as the same as naturally occuring but harmless eccentricity.
But yeah weirdo =/= madman
"Words mean whatever I want them to mean" ITT. :lulz:
I will agree with the OP so far as that some kinds of mental illness seem to be a reasonable reaction to an unreasonable situation.
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 25, 2010, 05:16:07 PM
Unless Rat is defining madness as the same as naturally occuring but harmless eccentricity.
But yeah weirdo =/= madman
Such as has been used thoroughout Discordian writings, poetry and colloquially since the Victorian era? Nah, obviously I was saying it was fun to have OCD. Ya know... cause that makes sense. Because when people say "The crowd went mad with excitement" it means they all suddenly became clinically ill. When we say someone came up with a completely 'mad scheme', we mean that their plan is documented in the DSM-IV.
EDIT:
Quote from: Nigel on June 25, 2010, 05:22:32 PM
"Words mean whatever I want them to mean" ITT.
Cause words only ever have a single meaning!
1. Angry; resentful.
2. Suffering from a disorder of the mind; insane.
3. Temporarily or apparently deranged by violent sensations, emotions, or ideas: mad with jealousy.
4. Lacking restraint or reason; foolish: I was mad to have hired her in the first place.
5. Feeling or showing strong liking or enthusiasm: mad about sports.
6. Marked by extreme excitement, confusion, or agitation; frantic: a mad scramble for the bus.
7. Boisterously gay; hilarious: had a mad time. 8. Affected by rabies; rabid.
Then clarify your original statement: which definition, specifically, did you mean?
In a bizarre and apparently unwarranted expectation of cohesiveness and topicality, I assumed he was using the definition the OP was using.
Of course, since words can mean anything you want them to mean, I realize now that expecting him to be replying to the topic raised by the OP or even really responding to this thread at all was unreasonable of me.
Potato bicycle chicken glorp.
Quote from: Nigel on June 25, 2010, 05:33:06 PM
In a bizarre and apparently unwarranted expectation of cohesiveness and topicality, I assumed he was using the definition the OP was using.
Don't let's get all SILLY, now.
Quote from: Nigel on June 25, 2010, 05:33:06 PM
Of course, since words can mean anything you want them to mean, I realize now that expecting him to be replying to the topic raised by the OP or even really responding to this thread at all was unreasonable of me.
Potato bicycle chicken glorp.
Smack my bitch up with a parachute. I eat the yellow monkey!
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 05:28:07 PM
Then clarify your original statement: which definition, specifically, did you mean?
Sometimes it can be good to go mad emotionally for a bit. You're a good example of that kind of mad sometimes :)
I think number 4 is likely the closest to the term as generally used in Discordian writings... or sometimes number 7.
Number 4 as a definition though, I think works for my comment.
Even more generally though, 'mad' often has a connotation of someone who is eccentric, who doesn't fit with the normal flow, ala the Hatter from Alice In Wonderland. We call him 'Mad' because we understand the term to mean eccentric. Mad magazine, Mad TV don't mean to indicate that there is a serious psychological problem, but rather a sense of silly, eccentricity etc. The Mad Fishmonger is another example.
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 25, 2010, 05:37:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 05:28:07 PM
Then clarify your original statement: which definition, specifically, did you mean?
Sometimes it can be good to go mad emotionally for a bit. You're a good example of that kind of mad sometimes :)
I think number 4 is likely the closest to the term as generally used in Discordian writings... or sometimes number 7.
Number 4 as a definition though, I think works for my comment.
Even more generally though, 'mad' often has a connotation of someone who is eccentric, who doesn't fit with the normal flow, ala the Hatter from Alice In Wonderland. We call him 'Mad' because we understand the term to mean eccentric. Mad magazine, Mad TV don't mean to indicate that there is a serious psychological problem, but rather a sense of silly, eccentricity etc. The Mad Fishmonger is another example.
How does this backpedaling and postscripted justification make your comment relate to the OP?
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 25, 2010, 05:37:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 05:28:07 PM
Then clarify your original statement: which definition, specifically, did you mean?
Sometimes it can be good to go mad emotionally for a bit. You're a good example of that kind of mad sometimes :)
I think number 4 is likely the closest to the term as generally used in Discordian writings... or sometimes number 7.
Number 4 as a definition though, I think works for my comment.
Even more generally though, 'mad' often has a connotation of someone who is eccentric, who doesn't fit with the normal flow, ala the Hatter from Alice In Wonderland. We call him 'Mad' because we understand the term to mean eccentric. Mad magazine, Mad TV don't mean to indicate that there is a serious psychological problem, but rather a sense of silly, eccentricity etc. The Mad Fishmonger is another example.
What does this have to do with the OP, though?
Quote from: Nigel on June 25, 2010, 05:33:06 PM
In a bizarre and apparently unwarranted expectation of cohesiveness and topicality, I assumed he was using the definition the OP was using.
You read the OP and thought that he was saying we should all get mental illnesses?
Quote from: Nigel on June 25, 2010, 05:38:56 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 25, 2010, 05:37:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 05:28:07 PM
Then clarify your original statement: which definition, specifically, did you mean?
Sometimes it can be good to go mad emotionally for a bit. You're a good example of that kind of mad sometimes :)
I think number 4 is likely the closest to the term as generally used in Discordian writings... or sometimes number 7.
Number 4 as a definition though, I think works for my comment.
Even more generally though, 'mad' often has a connotation of someone who is eccentric, who doesn't fit with the normal flow, ala the Hatter from Alice In Wonderland. We call him 'Mad' because we understand the term to mean eccentric. Mad magazine, Mad TV don't mean to indicate that there is a serious psychological problem, but rather a sense of silly, eccentricity etc. The Mad Fishmonger is another example.
How does this backpedaling and postscripted justification make your comment relate to the OP?
Because that's the sense it appears he was using... "Let's all go mad" dones't generally mean "Let's all go get OCD". He uses terms like Absurdity, 'totally nuts', 'madness', psychoholoic and enough RAWBabble to lead me to conclude he's using the term as is usually used by people in that context. The Mask reference seems to support that as well.
But hey, if you read it as 'lets all go get a mental illness..." then thats how you read it.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:17:09 PM
The only appropriate response to the mechanics of this planet is total madness.
Every conclusion we ever make about anything is based on an observation of an unbelievably tiny portion of the universe. We can't even pay attention to everything happening in our house at once, let alone our street, city, state, country, planet, solar system, galaxy; we've managed to discern through archaic tools the existence of an entire spectrum of light and sound we are physically incapable of witnessing ourselves, every opinion, every fact, every single thing we base our purpose and entire life on is inherently a woefully under-informed position, there is no truth, anywhere, I can't believe so many people claim to know the ups and downs and moral code of all of reality, I am not proud to be an American or a relatively-hairless ape, this charade has gone too far, the only thing to be done in the face of all this absurdity is to go totally nuts - quoting Mark Hammill's Joker, "It gets easier once you give in... it really does."
The idea that the meat industry can amount to a daily holocaust, enabled by this worldwide apathy, boggles my mind. So many things about this state boggle my mind. This backwards ban against public masturbation / fucking is a crime against humanity and all of evolution. When I get in these moods I feel like if I were in public I'd just start jacking off. Consider it a case of civil disobedience. I've been hearing about various trickster gods out of the corner of my ear ever since I was a little boy and now a bad case of apparent manic-depression has led me to relate more to The Mask (the Jim Carrey film) than I ever thought possible.
I know all of you have already encountered these ideas but they're just now really sinking into my brain and the stain they leave is going to be very ugly looking to some people
Hi my name is Jack and I'm a psychoholic.
"Or kill me."
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 25, 2010, 05:39:40 PM
Quote from: Nigel on June 25, 2010, 05:33:06 PM
In a bizarre and apparently unwarranted expectation of cohesiveness and topicality, I assumed he was using the definition the OP was using.
You read the OP and thought that he was saying we should all get mental illnesses?
What are you talking about?
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 25, 2010, 05:42:21 PM
Quote from: Nigel on June 25, 2010, 05:38:56 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 25, 2010, 05:37:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 05:28:07 PM
Then clarify your original statement: which definition, specifically, did you mean?
Sometimes it can be good to go mad emotionally for a bit. You're a good example of that kind of mad sometimes :)
I think number 4 is likely the closest to the term as generally used in Discordian writings... or sometimes number 7.
Number 4 as a definition though, I think works for my comment.
Even more generally though, 'mad' often has a connotation of someone who is eccentric, who doesn't fit with the normal flow, ala the Hatter from Alice In Wonderland. We call him 'Mad' because we understand the term to mean eccentric. Mad magazine, Mad TV don't mean to indicate that there is a serious psychological problem, but rather a sense of silly, eccentricity etc. The Mad Fishmonger is another example.
How does this backpedaling and postscripted justification make your comment relate to the OP?
Because that's the sense it appears he was using... "Let's all go mad" dones't generally mean "Let's all go get OCD". He uses terms like Absurdity, 'totally nuts', 'madness', psychoholoic and enough RAWBabble to lead me to conclude he's using the term as is usually used by people in that context. The Mask reference seems to support that as well.
But hey, if you read it as 'lets all go get a mental illness..." then thats how you read it.
Why are you being an asshole?
Quote from: Nigel on June 25, 2010, 05:55:53 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 25, 2010, 05:42:21 PM
Quote from: Nigel on June 25, 2010, 05:38:56 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 25, 2010, 05:37:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 05:28:07 PM
Then clarify your original statement: which definition, specifically, did you mean?
Sometimes it can be good to go mad emotionally for a bit. You're a good example of that kind of mad sometimes :)
I think number 4 is likely the closest to the term as generally used in Discordian writings... or sometimes number 7.
Number 4 as a definition though, I think works for my comment.
Even more generally though, 'mad' often has a connotation of someone who is eccentric, who doesn't fit with the normal flow, ala the Hatter from Alice In Wonderland. We call him 'Mad' because we understand the term to mean eccentric. Mad magazine, Mad TV don't mean to indicate that there is a serious psychological problem, but rather a sense of silly, eccentricity etc. The Mad Fishmonger is another example.
How does this backpedaling and postscripted justification make your comment relate to the OP?
Because that's the sense it appears he was using... "Let's all go mad" dones't generally mean "Let's all go get OCD". He uses terms like Absurdity, 'totally nuts', 'madness', psychoholoic and enough RAWBabble to lead me to conclude he's using the term as is usually used by people in that context. The Mask reference seems to support that as well.
But hey, if you read it as 'lets all go get a mental illness..." then thats how you read it.
Why are you being an asshole?
Wasn't intending to be an asshole. You asked me to clarify, so I did. HOw is that being an asshole?
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 25, 2010, 06:23:56 PM
Quote from: Nigel on June 25, 2010, 05:55:53 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 25, 2010, 05:42:21 PM
Quote from: Nigel on June 25, 2010, 05:38:56 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 25, 2010, 05:37:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 05:28:07 PM
Then clarify your original statement: which definition, specifically, did you mean?
Sometimes it can be good to go mad emotionally for a bit. You're a good example of that kind of mad sometimes :)
I think number 4 is likely the closest to the term as generally used in Discordian writings... or sometimes number 7.
Number 4 as a definition though, I think works for my comment.
Even more generally though, 'mad' often has a connotation of someone who is eccentric, who doesn't fit with the normal flow, ala the Hatter from Alice In Wonderland. We call him 'Mad' because we understand the term to mean eccentric. Mad magazine, Mad TV don't mean to indicate that there is a serious psychological problem, but rather a sense of silly, eccentricity etc. The Mad Fishmonger is another example.
How does this backpedaling and postscripted justification make your comment relate to the OP?
Because that's the sense it appears he was using... "Let's all go mad" dones't generally mean "Let's all go get OCD". He uses terms like Absurdity, 'totally nuts', 'madness', psychoholoic and enough RAWBabble to lead me to conclude he's using the term as is usually used by people in that context. The Mask reference seems to support that as well.
But hey, if you read it as 'lets all go get a mental illness..." then thats how you read it.
Why are you being an asshole?
Wasn't intending to be an asshole. You asked me to clarify, so I did. HOw is that being an asshole?
:assburgers:
Brilliant discussion, Nigel.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 25, 2010, 09:29:51 PM
Quote from: Rainy Day Pixie on June 25, 2010, 03:52:00 PM
I'm still waiting for the OP to get back to me on the definition of psychosis.
If not I may rant that shit right up!
I am reluctant to define anything. In that particular context I was using craziness as a forfeit of currently-held ideas and routines, crumpling under the pressure of so many unknowns which, like a forest fire, could clear the way for something more productive, important and generally pleasant. You could say the original post was me giving a seal of approval to the BIP pamphlet - it resonated with ideas I've had for a long time.
I am aware that a disconnectedness with consensus reality can also be unpleasant, I've experienced the plus and minus of it, as I think everyone has, in certain degrees. Fuck the idea that you either are crazy or you aren't. Fuck "yes or no" being applied to anything. A spectrum is more often appropriate, I think.
Go ahead and flame if it'll get your rocks off, but at least be constructive about it.
:facepalm:
No, no, no.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 25, 2010, 09:29:51 PM
Quote from: Rainy Day Pixie on June 25, 2010, 03:52:00 PM
I'm still waiting for the OP to get back to me on the definition of psychosis.
If not I may rant that shit right up!
I am reluctant to define anything. In that particular context I was using craziness as a forfeit of currently-held ideas and routines, crumpling under the pressure of so many unknowns which, like a forest fire, could clear the way for something more productive, important and generally pleasant. You could say the original post was me giving a seal of approval to the BIP pamphlet - it resonated with ideas I've had for a long time.
I am aware that a disconnectedness with consensus reality can also be unpleasant, I've experienced the plus and minus of it, as I think everyone has, in certain degrees. Fuck the idea that you either are crazy or you aren't. Fuck "yes or no" being applied to anything. A spectrum is more often appropriate, I think.
Go ahead and flame if it'll get your rocks off, but at least be constructive about it.
well from the actualy psychotic and about to start taking antipsychotics, and a low dose at that cos i have had to fight it tooth and nail mentally for 5 months now, thats not a bad definition, I am very aware of the sliding scale of the the nature of a psychotic illness.
where are the plus sides from having your conection to reality fucked up?
I havent had any. trust me, my breakdown was spectacular. The only bonus points was my already having a rational mind and being stubborn as fuck. I have been in an almost daily battle with this shit since January.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 25, 2010, 10:04:46 PM
Quote from: Rainy Day Pixie on June 25, 2010, 09:42:42 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 25, 2010, 09:29:51 PM
Quote from: Rainy Day Pixie on June 25, 2010, 03:52:00 PM
I'm still waiting for the OP to get back to me on the definition of psychosis.
If not I may rant that shit right up!
I am reluctant to define anything. In that particular context I was using craziness as a forfeit of currently-held ideas and routines, crumpling under the pressure of so many unknowns which, like a forest fire, could clear the way for something more productive, important and generally pleasant. You could say the original post was me giving a seal of approval to the BIP pamphlet - it resonated with ideas I've had for a long time.
I am aware that a disconnectedness with consensus reality can also be unpleasant, I've experienced the plus and minus of it, as I think everyone has, in certain degrees. Fuck the idea that you either are crazy or you aren't. Fuck "yes or no" being applied to anything. A spectrum is more often appropriate, I think.
Go ahead and flame if it'll get your rocks off, but at least be constructive about it.
well from the actualy psychotic and about to start taking antipsychotics, and a low dose at that cos i have had to fight it tooth and nail mentally for 5 months now, thats not a bad definition, I am very aware of the sliding scale of the the nature of a psychotic illness.
where are the plus sides from having your conection to reality fucked up?
I havent had any. trust me, my breakdown was spectacular. The only bonus points was my already having a rational mind and being stubborn as fuck. I have been in an almost daily battle with this shit since January.
Firstly, I'm not trying to push emotional hell on anyone like some antichrist billy mays. Feeling bad feels bad, man.
(http://<a%20href="http://photobucket.com/images/feels%20bad%20man"%20target="_blank"><img%20src="http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p185/tabgobbler/feels-bad-man.jpg"%20border="0"%20alt="feels%20bad%20man%20Pictures,%20Images%20and%20Photos"/></a>)
The things I'm in support of are creativity, the ability to think of things from multiple angles, not having a stuck view of reality on any particular opinion / "fact", knowing the majority of truths we take for granted are probably bullshit (in MY VIRGIN OPINION), invention, cleverness, basically not being a cabbage, 100% certain of everything, which are hard to live with after reading certain texts that pretty much destroyed all the certainty in my life.
Not just separation from popular reality, but also your own lazier views on life, can have positive impact.
I can't believe I'm even suggesting these ideas to discordian forum.
None of those things are madness, though. They are all bleeding fucking obvious to just about everyone here. They aren't psychosis, or manic depression. So maybe consider rewriting your rant using accurate language without made-up definitions, and see if it can be understood by anyone who isn't a Maybe Logic wankerette.
yes. Calling a wheel a frog and expecting someone to know what you are talking about is not the way forward here.
Quote from: Nigel on June 25, 2010, 10:23:30 PM
None of those things are madness, though. They are all bleeding fucking obvious to just about everyone here. They aren't psychosis, or manic depression. So maybe consider rewriting your rant using accurate language without made-up definitions, and see if it can be understood by anyone who isn't a Maybe Logic wankerette.
THIS!
Stop trying to browbeat us with shit we already know. Lurk moar. You'll soon see where we're coming from and where we are. Sometimes it's time to transmit and other times it helps to shut up and listen. Have a look around. You are no longer the weirdest fucker in the room.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 25, 2010, 09:50:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 09:35:38 PM
:facepalm:
No, no, no.
Says the guy without the Picard avatar.
I'm not trying to be an ignorant prick, it's just that I probably am one.
Dok has all the authority of the face-palm Picard regardless of avatar. He's been here a long time.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 25, 2010, 10:04:46 PM
Quote from: Rainy Day Pixie on June 25, 2010, 09:42:42 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 25, 2010, 09:29:51 PM
Quote from: Rainy Day Pixie on June 25, 2010, 03:52:00 PM
I'm still waiting for the OP to get back to me on the definition of psychosis.
If not I may rant that shit right up!
I am reluctant to define anything. In that particular context I was using craziness as a forfeit of currently-held ideas and routines, crumpling under the pressure of so many unknowns which, like a forest fire, could clear the way for something more productive, important and generally pleasant. You could say the original post was me giving a seal of approval to the BIP pamphlet - it resonated with ideas I've had for a long time.
I am aware that a disconnectedness with consensus reality can also be unpleasant, I've experienced the plus and minus of it, as I think everyone has, in certain degrees. Fuck the idea that you either are crazy or you aren't. Fuck "yes or no" being applied to anything. A spectrum is more often appropriate, I think.
Go ahead and flame if it'll get your rocks off, but at least be constructive about it.
well from the actualy psychotic and about to start taking antipsychotics, and a low dose at that cos i have had to fight it tooth and nail mentally for 5 months now, thats not a bad definition, I am very aware of the sliding scale of the the nature of a psychotic illness.
where are the plus sides from having your conection to reality fucked up?
I havent had any. trust me, my breakdown was spectacular. The only bonus points was my already having a rational mind and being stubborn as fuck. I have been in an almost daily battle with this shit since January.
Firstly, I'm not trying to push emotional hell on anyone like some antichrist billy mays. Feeling bad feels bad, man.
(http://<a%20href="http://photobucket.com/images/feels%20bad%20man"%20target="_blank"><img%20src="http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p185/tabgobbler/feels-bad-man.jpg"%20border="0"%20alt="feels%20bad%20man%20Pictures,%20Images%20and%20Photos"/></a>)
The things I'm in support of are creativity, the ability to think of things from multiple angles, not having a stuck view of reality on any particular opinion / "fact", knowing the majority of truths we take for granted are probably bullshit (in MY VIRGIN OPINION), invention, cleverness, basically not being a cabbage, 100% certain of everything, which are hard to live with after reading certain texts that pretty much destroyed all the certainty in my life.
Not just separation from popular reality, but also your own lazier views on life, can have positive impact.
I can't believe I'm even suggesting these ideas to discordian forum.
Careful. That's dangerously close to sounding like the really real Discordian showing other Discordians what being a Discordian is all about. That's not a step you want to take. :)
Ok. Pump the brakes.
Dude has the right direction, but didn't think it through. Is now defensive because we're kicking him in the crotch.
Dude, apologize for trying to poeticize insanity. Apologize without any excuses. Admit you were wrong.
Then start over, re-write you rant, saying what you mean in either 1. The most clear language you can muster, or 2. The most poetic you can fathom.
Be sure that we will pull apart everything you do. It's our way. But if you dig deep and speak honestly, it will work.
Quote from: LMNO on June 26, 2010, 03:34:23 AM
Ok. Pump the brakes.
Dude has the right direction, but didn't think it through. Is now defensive because we're kicking him in the crotch.
Dude, apologize for trying to poeticize insanity. Apologize without any excuses. Admit you were wrong.
Then start over, re-write you rant, saying what you mean in either 1. The most clear language you can muster, or 2. The most poetic you can fathom.
Be sure that we will pull apart everything you do. It's our way. But if you dig deep and speak honestly, it will work.
This. I think this guy has potential. He just needs to keep at it.
its a bit like saying, oMG thats sooo gay in a derogatory fashion at a Gay Pride march, missapropriating mental health language without clarification around here.
he's probably an alright dude.
I just have a personal bugbear, along with our two good doktors here abiout what it is like to be really real mentals, and the misuse of said language.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 27, 2010, 02:21:50 PM
Having now read the Conversations From Hell thread, I can see how coming here with the words I did would make me look like an asshole. I'm sorry.
I think I might set up a tent in this thread and use it as a miscellaneous dump for whatever ideas I have or things I write.
Next idea will be related to and expanding on my original post, but different. A thesis statement for the pluses behind transitioning from one form of thinking to another - specifically, from loving limitation / purposelessness, to loving total freedom and infinite possibilities. Shrugging off the "weight of the world" syndrome. I think this is a central struggle to my time here and it should produce some interesting words.
Alright.
Go for it.
I like this last entry, and I have a suggestion, which is that at this stage of the game you consider focusing on understanding and deconstructing yourself, without trying to extrapolate to other people.
Okay I'm fast warming to this noob! Also agree with Nigel - you seem to be doing much better with the introspection-stuff.
Have your first :mittens: for that category 1 piece
QuoteCategory 2
Love of Freedom
This was really good, man. Keep it up. This deserves :mittens:
:mittens:
This is good work! It sounds like you're passing the first veil. It's hard work, no?
I do feel that video games et al are dangerous because they scratch an itch for
experience. If we lived in a world of gun fights and life-or-death platform jumping scenarios, I do not think we would be playing megaman in our spare time. Then again, my cop buddy is also a Halo master, so go fig.
QuoteHakuna Mattata. Those damn dirty hippies who pursue Samadhi with the motto with Zen Buddhism, doing nothing. "Across space and time, a bong sounded".
I do think there is a difference between embracing stillness, being comfortable with inaction, and just being lazy.
QuoteMy attempts to enter 5th-circuit headspace (I know it's only a model) through cannabis drugs have been catastrophic exercises in paranoia. It would seem I am more programmed toward data than sensation. More attuned to the shape of a room and all the little details there than actually interacting with other human beings without pangs of anxiety. When it should be a celebration.
That's too bad -- the 5th circuit is a great place to be. Where do you think the paranoia is coming from? I would recommend trying it out in different contexts. Try smoking alone and going for a walk in the woods or something - perhaps try to avoid the social stimulus that can be overwhelming in certain headspaces.
Angel Tech links 5th Circut with First Circut.
I reccommend re-examining your 1C state. If you have a poor concept of your physical body, you will not be comfortable taking risks, and you will be in a constant state of anxiety when doing so.
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2010, 04:53:13 PM
Angel Tech links 5th Circut with First Circut.
I reccommend re-examining your 1C state. If you have a poor concept of your physical body, you will not be comfortable taking risks, and you will be in a constant state of anxiety when doing so.
:mittens:
Excellent observation, LMNO!
Heh. Just because I mock RAW and co., doesn't mean some of his work isn't useful.
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2010, 05:01:12 PM
Heh. Just because I mock RAW and co., doesn't mean some of his work isn't useful.
:lulz:
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2010, 05:01:12 PM
Heh. Just because I mock RAW and co., doesn't mean some of his work isn't useful.
The 8 circuit model isn't his work. He borrowed that from Leary.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 07:16:08 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2010, 04:53:13 PM
Angel Tech links 5th Circut with First Circut.
I reccommend re-examining your 1C state. If you have a poor concept of your physical body, you will not be comfortable taking risks, and you will be in a constant state of anxiety when doing so.
Thank you for reminding me of this. I'd somehow completely forgotten the foundation-preventing-short-circuit idea.
HOWEVER I think there's more to circuit 1 than physical body. This is baby territory, neediness, the land of issues regarding parental dependency. I feel another lengthy piece coming on regarding THIS topic, so stay tuned.
Oh, boy.
In order to avoid foaming rage, etc, etc, I will be leaving this thread now. Will someone please tell me when the re-run is over (specifically, the 8 circuit shit)?
It's just a model.
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2010, 07:38:52 PM
It's just a model.
10 yard penalty for gratuitous Monty Python reference.
Foam foam foam.
Also, boredom.
Why do people feel the need to re-write something that's been written and present it as new thought?
Quote from: Nigel on June 28, 2010, 07:43:41 PM
Foam foam foam.
Also, boredom.
Why do people feel the need to re-write something that's been written and present it as new thought?
We'll all be "eating the menu" by this time tomorrow. :|
Quote from: Nigel on June 28, 2010, 07:43:41 PM
Why do people feel the need to re-write something that's been written and present it as new thought?
Because writing the Black Iron Prison essays made me feel good about myself.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 07:45:04 PM
TENTATIVE THESIS # 2:
A child's instinctual patterns of social interaction are absolutely formed in the home.
Take a fetus, grown in a human womb near the end of the 20th century. Following its successful extraction from the sideways mouth, said fetus is quickly domesticated according to the customs of the local region. Wear these things (Don't go naked), speak this language (Minus these words), don't jack off in public, etc. The most effective method for billions of people to interact at once seems to be through somewhat inflexible codes of social interaction. The parents take upon themselves, by alleged necessity, the role of infallible gods, whose word is the supreme law of the land and the only justification required is "Because I said so."
Any good child, any agreeable specimen of the larval human, the kid all adult monkeys hope and pray for, would model its patterns of behavior and thought after its superiors, The Tall Ones. So here's the perfect recipe for How To Get To Social Anxiety Street:
Fetus pops out. Parents fight all the time. Split before their offspring reaches two years old. Both parents re-marry pretty much immediately. The baby's new step parents, whether being hopeless lumps of lazy, or self-loathing balls of residual angst, or whatever their excuse is, don't see a point in talking to the child. They ignore it. Completely. All the easy, mathematical, DATA POINTS of child rearing are accounted for - shelter, food, E T C. All the things that don't involve showing any appreciation for or interest in the devloping personality DIRECTLY, through verbal communication or game playing.
Starting in the elementary years and continuing on through puberty and all the way to legal adulthood, the child is completely ignored by two of his four parents - no praise, no scorn, no acknowledgement of its existence at all. A feeling of unease and confusion lurks in the corners of the child's mind, every moment of its time at home(s). It has been effectively trained to avoid talking to other people, to expect to be totally ignored by people that live even in the same house. To be filled with screaming panic every time it talks to someone.
Then the child enters the real world and has to interact with tons of people daily, give or take. At school. At work. On the metro. On the street, in the halls, at stoplights, at crosswalks, at bicycle racks, in bathrooms, at water fountains, vending machines, desk arrangements, trains planes automobiles internet forums sex shops drunken parties drug dealers' houses concerts car wrecks strangers' beds the emergency room
People are everywhere. Everywhere a child raised to be a member of society is expected to go.
If you're going to marry someone who already has kids, please.
Acknowledge their existence.
Or not.
-vomiting "circuit 1",
J
I actually really like this and am not sure whether it needs to be shoved into the 8 circuit box.
I didn't read it, because things looked like just another tired-ass rehash.
Hang on.
Got to "sideways mouth" and then "don't jack off in public" (see beginning of this thread), then wrote the response off, and the author. I give up. He's fucking hopeless.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 28, 2010, 07:54:34 PM
Got to "sideways mouth" and then "don't jack off in public" (see beginning of this thread), then wrote the response off, and the author. I give up. He's fucking hopeless.
I skipped over those parts; it's just the posings of a juvenile knee-jerk rebellion against the moral code. The rest is decent. Basically, "The socially accepted practice of ignoring your stepchildren is bad for their psyche, and therefore bad for society."
Which I strongly agree with.
WE DEMAND PULITZER MATERIAL BY POST #10.
15 AT THE LATEST
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Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 07:59:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 28, 2010, 07:54:34 PM
Got to "sideways mouth" and then "don't jack off in public" (see beginning of this thread), then wrote the response off, and the author. I give up. He's fucking hopeless.
I have hope, and a desire to improve. You give up, that makes you the hopeless one.
Just an FYI: disparaging language about female body parts won't win you any cool points around here, and kind of makes you look like an immature douche.
Likewise, failing to understand why public masturbation is taboo is pretty much begging an ass-kicking, and will tend to lead people to believe that if you're that dumb, you probably don't have anything valid or interesting to say.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 07:59:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 28, 2010, 07:54:34 PM
Got to "sideways mouth" and then "don't jack off in public" (see beginning of this thread), then wrote the response off, and the author. I give up. He's fucking hopeless.
I have hope, and a desire to improve. You give up, that makes you the hopeless one.
If that makes you feel better, you just keep on believing, kid. :lulz:
Quote from: Cramulus on June 28, 2010, 08:02:26 PM
WE DEMAND PULITZER MATERIAL BY POST #10.
15 AT THE LATEST
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Sorry, I forgot that we're not allowed to be disgusted when a noob not only spouts bullshit, but repeats it ad nauseum.
My bad. I shall remember in the future that everything that comes out of a noob's mouth is solid fucking gold, and that all noobs are superior in all ways to existing members, regardless of the utter shit and misogyny they may post.
Dok,
Striving to improve and all that shit.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 08:05:14 PM
The purpose of my introductory paragraph is to describe the position of moral experts a parent must take to raise its child to be obedient. I wasn't protesting that process, it was a lead-in to the effects of that position being misused, or not used at all, by lazy godheads.
Bull fucking shit. It was an excuse to bitch that you aren't allowed to expose yourself in front of kids, and to indulge in a little creative misogyny.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 08:05:14 PM
The purpose of my introductory paragraph is to describe the position of moral experts a parent must take to raise its child to be obedient. I wasn't protesting that process, it was a lead-in to the effects of that position being misused, or not used at all, by lazy godheads.
So "sideways mouth" was what? An attempt to be clever? It's just that paired with the repeated puerility of the public masturbation references (which really makes it look like you resent not being allowed to masturbate in public) it does paint you in a certain unsavory light.
I liked the end point of your rant. My question is, are you mature enough to accept criticism and learn from your mistakes, instead of carrying on defending your weaknesses?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 28, 2010, 08:07:24 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 08:05:14 PM
The purpose of my introductory paragraph is to describe the position of moral experts a parent must take to raise its child to be obedient. I wasn't protesting that process, it was a lead-in to the effects of that position being misused, or not used at all, by lazy godheads.
Bull fucking shit. It was an excuse to bitch that you aren't allowed to expose yourself in front of kids, and to indulge in a little creative misogyny.
Jack, Dok has a point here. You're coming across as an exhibitionist. If I recall, there are three independent posts ITT regarding sexual gratification in public. Your opening post, mentioning having banged someone in an alley way , and teaching kids not to masturbate in public in this most recent thesis. It raised some red flags with the first post, and we made points about why it was mockable, but you seem to be continuing with it. It suggests that you're fixated on an unhealthy idea. You may want to evaluate why you are using that idea and whether or not you should keep using it. (Suggestion for second part of that: Don't)
Nigel, I've come to think that he's just another Tucson-esque freak, here because he thinks that somehow we will accept his bullshit because, you know, Discordians accept anyone, no matter how bad their wiring is, or some similar bullshit.
If he's an exhibitionist, which is what it is really starting to look like, he should go find a flasher board or something. It's the internet, there's got to be SOMETHING for him out there.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 08:22:03 PM
Yeah I like the idea of accepting criticism. I'm beginning to wonder if it's worth doing here, though, when people keep taking stabs at me, basically being assholes for the fun of it.
Oh, boy, stage 2 is beginning. Nigel, do you have the checklist?
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 08:22:03 PM
I have very little experience presenting CREATIVE WRITING (read: ideas and experiments, not summaries of my entire personality and soul) to people, so finding out that certain things are unpleasant to people and other things aren't, I haven't done much of.
So telling you outright several pages ago wasn't clear enough?
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 08:22:03 PMThis whole exhibitionist thing is a strange pattern I hadn't noticed before and my posts here are an attempt at unfolding layers of my mind so thank you for explaining that to me, I find it a disturbing surprise I wouldn't have noticed without presenting my words to someone.
Seek help.
Oh.
Well, this is a grown-up place for grown-ups. If you're a fragile flower and you need to be treated with kid gloves so you don't soil yourself with butthurt, you might try mylittlepony.com or something.
Or just preface your essays with something like "I am a fragile flower, please be gentle with your feedback".
Quote from: Nigel on June 28, 2010, 08:25:57 PM
Oh.
Well, this is a grown-up place for grown-ups. If you're a fragile flower and you need to be treated with kid gloves so you don't soil yourself with butthurt, you might try mylittlepony.com or something.
Or just preface your essays with something like "I am a fragile flower, please be gentle with your feedback".
WHY IS THE INTERBUTT SO FASCIST?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 28, 2010, 08:25:33 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 08:22:03 PM
Yeah I like the idea of accepting criticism. I'm beginning to wonder if it's worth doing here, though, when people keep taking stabs at me, basically being assholes for the fun of it.
Oh, boy, stage 2 is beginning. Nigel, do you have the checklist?
Ohhhhh yeah, I've got it! :lulz: starting to regret that I have to work today.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 28, 2010, 08:26:45 PM
Quote from: Nigel on June 28, 2010, 08:25:57 PM
Oh.
Well, this is a grown-up place for grown-ups. If you're a fragile flower and you need to be treated with kid gloves so you don't soil yourself with butthurt, you might try mylittlepony.com or something.
Or just preface your essays with something like "I am a fragile flower, please be gentle with your feedback".
WHY IS THE INTERBUTT SO FASCIST?
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Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 08:22:03 PM
Yeah I like the idea of accepting criticism. I'm beginning to wonder if it's worth doing here, though, when people keep taking stabs at me, basically being assholes for the fun of it. I have very little experience presenting CREATIVE WRITING (read: ideas and experiments, not summaries of my entire personality and soul) to people, so finding out that certain things are unpleasant to people and other things aren't, I haven't done much of. This is very raw material from a very raw author and patience would be great.
This whole exhibitionist thing is a strange pattern I hadn't noticed before and my posts here are an attempt at unfolding layers of my mind so thank you for explaining that to me, I find it a disturbing surprise I wouldn't have noticed without presenting my words to someone.
It's fine to post creative stuff here. People aren't taking jabs at you so they can be assholes for fun. Certain parts of your writing are offending them. When it seems like someone here is being an asshole to you, ask yourself why. If you can't figure it out, we'll elaborate.
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 28, 2010, 08:28:22 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 08:22:03 PM
Yeah I like the idea of accepting criticism. I'm beginning to wonder if it's worth doing here, though, when people keep taking stabs at me, basically being assholes for the fun of it. I have very little experience presenting CREATIVE WRITING (read: ideas and experiments, not summaries of my entire personality and soul) to people, so finding out that certain things are unpleasant to people and other things aren't, I haven't done much of. This is very raw material from a very raw author and patience would be great.
This whole exhibitionist thing is a strange pattern I hadn't noticed before and my posts here are an attempt at unfolding layers of my mind so thank you for explaining that to me, I find it a disturbing surprise I wouldn't have noticed without presenting my words to someone.
It's fine to post creative stuff here. People aren't taking jabs at you so they can be assholes for fun. Certain parts of your writing are offending them. When it seems like someone here is being an asshole to you, ask yourself why. If you can't figure it out, we'll elaborate.
Offended? Only by his unwillingness to learn from his mistakes.
Other than that, well, "disgusted".
Quote from: Nigel on June 28, 2010, 08:27:05 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 28, 2010, 08:25:33 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 08:22:03 PM
Yeah I like the idea of accepting criticism. I'm beginning to wonder if it's worth doing here, though, when people keep taking stabs at me, basically being assholes for the fun of it.
Oh, boy, stage 2 is beginning. Nigel, do you have the checklist?
Ohhhhh yeah, I've got it! :lulz: starting to regret that I have to work today.
You can come back later and check off his responses. My bet is we hit "sociological experiment" by this time tomorrow, and "really real Discordians for Realness" by Wednesday.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 28, 2010, 08:32:24 PM
Quote from: Nigel on June 28, 2010, 08:27:05 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 28, 2010, 08:25:33 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 08:22:03 PM
Yeah I like the idea of accepting criticism. I'm beginning to wonder if it's worth doing here, though, when people keep taking stabs at me, basically being assholes for the fun of it.
Oh, boy, stage 2 is beginning. Nigel, do you have the checklist?
Ohhhhh yeah, I've got it! :lulz: starting to regret that I have to work today.
You can come back later and check off his responses. My bet is we hit "sociological experiment" by this time tomorrow, and "really real Discordians for Realness" by Wednesday.
Anyone want to start a pool? :lulz:
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 08:35:02 PM
Sorry for being so good at offending people.
It's not something I'm doing on purpose.
:snivel:
ETA: Fuck. Time to go get some more emotes.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 28, 2010, 08:31:15 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 28, 2010, 08:28:22 PM
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 08:22:03 PM
Yeah I like the idea of accepting criticism. I'm beginning to wonder if it's worth doing here, though, when people keep taking stabs at me, basically being assholes for the fun of it. I have very little experience presenting CREATIVE WRITING (read: ideas and experiments, not summaries of my entire personality and soul) to people, so finding out that certain things are unpleasant to people and other things aren't, I haven't done much of. This is very raw material from a very raw author and patience would be great.
This whole exhibitionist thing is a strange pattern I hadn't noticed before and my posts here are an attempt at unfolding layers of my mind so thank you for explaining that to me, I find it a disturbing surprise I wouldn't have noticed without presenting my words to someone.
It's fine to post creative stuff here. People aren't taking jabs at you so they can be assholes for fun. Certain parts of your writing are offending them. When it seems like someone here is being an asshole to you, ask yourself why. If you can't figure it out, we'll elaborate.
Offended? Only by his unwillingness to learn from his mistakes.
Other than that, well, "disgusted".
I tend to use the words interchangeably
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 08:35:02 PM
Sorry for being so good at offending people.
It's not something I'm doing on purpose.
Before you hit "post" take a step back and reread, and see if there's anything that would be taken the wrong way.
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 28, 2010, 08:36:37 PM
I tend to use the words interchangeably
I don't. I am offended by willful stupidity. This makes me angry.
I am disgusted by a guy who feels that he should jack off in public, so kids can see him. This makes me more than a little ill, and makes we want bad things to happen to him. It's more than a little "Loveshady", and creepier than a crotchless clown suit at a birthday party.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 28, 2010, 08:39:35 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 28, 2010, 08:36:37 PM
I tend to use the words interchangeably
I don't. I am offended by willful stupidity. This makes me angry.
I am disgusted by a guy who feels that he should jack off in public, so kids can see him. This makes me more than a little ill, and makes we want bad things to happen to him. It's more than a little "Loveshady", and creepier than a crotchless clown suit at a birthday party.
It is pretty creepy. Perhaps he didn't think through why public masturbation is a bad thing and against the law.
Edit: Though he should have, since it would cause him to be a sex offender.
Not to mention, it's really difficult to find a decent public wifi point for the necessary internet access.
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 28, 2010, 08:46:56 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 28, 2010, 08:39:35 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 28, 2010, 08:36:37 PM
I tend to use the words interchangeably
I don't. I am offended by willful stupidity. This makes me angry.
I am disgusted by a guy who feels that he should jack off in public, so kids can see him. This makes me more than a little ill, and makes we want bad things to happen to him. It's more than a little "Loveshady", and creepier than a crotchless clown suit at a birthday party.
It is pretty creepy. Perhaps he didn't think through why public masturbation is a bad thing and against the law.
Oh, dear. I was purposefully avoiding saying that exact sentence, so we wouldn't have to hear from him how it's natural, and healthy for children to see. Because we're exactly the same as chimpanzees or something.
Or because he has a thing for that, and he's trying to rationalize it.
I call Uncle BadTouch.
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2010, 08:48:23 PM
Not to mention, it's really difficult to find a decent public wifi point for the necessary internet access.
:lulz:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 28, 2010, 08:48:48 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 28, 2010, 08:46:56 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 28, 2010, 08:39:35 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 28, 2010, 08:36:37 PM
I tend to use the words interchangeably
I don't. I am offended by willful stupidity. This makes me angry.
I am disgusted by a guy who feels that he should jack off in public, so kids can see him. This makes me more than a little ill, and makes we want bad things to happen to him. It's more than a little "Loveshady", and creepier than a crotchless clown suit at a birthday party.
It is pretty creepy. Perhaps he didn't think through why public masturbation is a bad thing and against the law.
Oh, dear. I was purposefully avoiding saying that exact sentence, so we wouldn't have to hear from him how it's natural, and healthy for children to see. Because we're exactly the same as chimpanzees or something.
Or because he has a thing for that, and he's trying to rationalize it.
I call Uncle BadTouch.
My bad.
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2010, 08:48:23 PM
Not to mention, it's really difficult to find a decent public wifi point for the necessary internet access.
Yeah, imagine the chaos as dozens of Starbucks patrons find that their coffee cups have mysteriously adhered to their tables.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 08:51:04 PM
Okay, listen. It's stupid that I should even carry on with this, probably, I'd like to just be done with it, but I feel I've been misconstrued as having any interest in exhibitionism, which I do not.
I was not saying, "BOY, I WISH I COULD JUST GO SOMEWHERE AND DO THAT RIGHT NOW, WITH ALL THE CONSEQUENCES IT WOULD HAVE ON EVERYONE AROUND ME."
The only thing I was getting at is I personally think the world would be a better place if the entire taboo around sex had never developed, centuries or milennia ago, if people weren't ashamed of their bodies as they seem to be now, what with the gym craze, all the infomercials for workout shit, whatever. I think the SHAME people have of things that everyone has and everyone do is unfortunate. But in this world, as it exists now, I wouldn't get any enjoyment out of doing something like that, and children have nothing to do with it in the slightest. I think the ENTIRE WORLD, not just me, should be allowed to smoke pot and fuck in the streets. It wasn't the central piece of anything I had posted, but now it is, because of an apparent misunderstanding that I apologize for. I'm not sniveling, I'm not attacking, I'm not defensive or filled with hate and I don't think there's any right way to be a "discordian", whatever that means.
What does shame about sex or bodies have to do with masturbating in public? Do you also want to have sex and shit in public?
I'm not ashamed of pooping, or of fucking, or of giving birth, but I like a little privacy while I do do them. HINT: evolutionarily, it has something to do with vulnerability.
If it took us 15 seconds to fuck or shit and could do it on the hoof, like many prey animals, I bet we wouldn't have any such "taboos" around it. But it's NOT natural for us to feel comfortable being exposed to all and sundry at our most vulnerable times.
Just stop for a moment, and imagine if everyone in the world began fucking in the streets.
...
Ew.
Just.... Ew.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 08:51:04 PM
Okay, listen. It's stupid that I should even carry on with this, probably, I'd like to just be done with it, but I feel I've been misconstrued as having any interest in exhibitionism, which I do not.
I was not saying, "BOY, I WISH I COULD JUST GO SOMEWHERE AND DO THAT RIGHT NOW, WITH ALL THE CONSEQUENCES IT WOULD HAVE ON EVERYONE AROUND ME."
The only thing I was getting at is I personally think the world would be a better place if the entire taboo around sex had never developed, centuries or milennia ago, if people weren't ashamed of their bodies as they seem to be now, what with the gym craze, all the infomercials for workout shit, whatever. I think the SHAME people have of things that everyone has and everyone do is unfortunate. But in this world, as it exists now, I wouldn't get any enjoyment out of doing something like that, and children have nothing to do with it in the slightest. I think the ENTIRE WORLD, not just me, should be allowed to smoke pot and fuck in the streets. It wasn't the central piece of anything I had posted, but now it is, because of an apparent misunderstanding that I apologize for. I'm not sniveling, I'm not attacking, I'm not defensive or filled with hate and I don't think there's any right way to be a "discordian", whatever that means.
It should not. Some laws are stupid. Ones dealing with this are not. If you pull out your weiner in public and start tugging on it, children are liable to see. Not to mention women who would be disturbed by it.
Dude. If we're misconstruing you, fine, BUT you did post it 3 different times. But you don't seem to understand what's going wrong here, especially where you have admitted to having sex in public, unless that was creative license. And if it is, it still implies some very unhealthy thinking.
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2010, 08:55:32 PM
Just stop for a moment, and imagine if everyone in the world began fucking in the streets.
...
Ew.
Just.... Ew.
Pretty much.
If certain puritannical standards about sex are the issue then why didn't you say that in the first place? BY choosing the most provocative and contraversial aspect of this to talk about, you are obscuring your message under rightful attacks on an idiotic idea.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 08:51:04 PM
I was not saying, "BOY, I WISH I COULD JUST GO SOMEWHERE AND DO THAT RIGHT NOW, WITH ALL THE CONSEQUENCES IT WOULD HAVE ON EVERYONE AROUND ME."
No, you were lamenting the fact that you couldn't, or expressing bitterness that you couldn't, rather than wishing for it. Explain to me why this is better.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 08:51:04 PM
I think the ENTIRE WORLD, not just me, should be allowed to smoke pot and fuck in the streets.
So your argument is that we are the same as, say, alley cats?
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2010, 08:55:32 PM
Just stop for a moment, and imagine if everyone in the world began fucking in the streets.
...
Ew.
Just.... Ew.
Just think of me alone, exposing my back to the world.
The horror.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 09:08:57 PM
Quote from: Cain on June 28, 2010, 09:00:22 PM
If certain puritannical standards about sex are the issue then why didn't you say that in the first place? BY choosing the most provocative and contraversial aspect of this to talk about, you are obscuring your message under rightful attacks on an idiotic idea.
I know. You're right. I'm new to this type of thing. And it was an IDEA, yeah. Not reflective of my personal desires. Maybe I came here to present ideas to a board of critics to help me pick them apart. I think that sounds pretty cool. A refinement of worldview. So okay, I'm grateful, and I'm probably going to come across as an asshole again as we go along, but if you people will help me through retarded mistakes, I feel I could grow, as a mind.
"SORRY I IGNORED YOUR DISGUST AND OBVIOUS SCORN THE LAST 3 TIMES I SAID THIS SHIT. I'M NEW AT TALKING TO PEOPLE, YOU SEE."
This is a blatant fucking troll. My money says Uncle BadTouch has a new IP addie.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 09:15:20 PM
I'm trying as hard as I can not to offend people. You however have been shitting on my head since I got here.
Actually, I took some time out of my day to talk to you in PM, to try to help you out.
You came back and posted the exact same shit, with a few dingleberries added.
You got me, dude. Score one for you.
Fucking troll.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 09:19:09 PM
Sorry I fucked this up. I thought I would fit in here, but I don't.
Is there any way to delete this account?
Nope. We don't do that.
But you could erase it from your favorites.
Why do people always think it's about "fitting in"? It's more like knowing when to accept advice when it's offered rather than continuing the defensive or backpedaling.
Quote from: Nast on June 28, 2010, 09:33:16 PM
Why do people always think it's about "fitting in"? It's more like knowing when to accept advice when it's offered rather than continuing the defensive or backpedaling.
That's not how I see this particular situation. He came in babbling about jacking off in public, etc, and wasn't received well (as intented, I think). I spent an hour or more with him in PM a day or so ago, and then he followed up with more and more of the same.
He's either a troll, or a candidate for Uncle BadTouch's crew. Or he is a member of Uncle BadTouch's crew.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 09:30:53 PM
Okay. I'm out.
I doubt that.
But I see you're erasing your posts, so maybe I'm wrong.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 28, 2010, 09:19:09 PM
Sorry I fucked this up. I thought I would fit in here, but I don't.
Is there any way to delete this account?
You thought we were a bunch of would-be public masturbators? :|
What a creep this guy was, and thick to boot. :|
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on June 28, 2010, 11:16:02 PM
What a creep this guy was, and thick to boot. :|
The first time, I could get, like, "ok, I used a shite metaphor" But damn. 3 times. Fixation. Or troll. My guess is a little of both.
In the spirit of fair play, there was no need to delete all his own posts like that! Now those of us who got here late (Me) got nothing to chew on! Pissflaps!
:fap: Oh! Except the OP.
Quote from: Runaway_Scarecrow on June 24, 2010, 06:17:09 PM
When I get in these moods I feel like if I were in public I'd just start jacking off. Consider it a case of civil disobedience.
Hi my name is Jack and I'm a psychoholic. bit of a Wrongcock.
"Or kill me."
Legality aside, the thing that stops you acting this out, is the fact that there are consequences to behaviour like this. Consequences that (quite rightly) include the fairly likely probability of getting strung up from the nearest lamp post, By
narrow minded bigots who dare not think outside the box an outraged mob of horrified people who realise this behaviour needs to be vigorously discouraged.
Quote from: BadBeast on June 29, 2010, 05:46:09 AM
In the spirit of fair play, there was no need to delete all his own posts like that! Now those of us who got here late (Me) got nothing to chew on! Pissflaps!
:fap: Oh! Except the OP.
Yeah, that was lame. Maybe he wants the full 49 posts back before we judge him accordingly.
That was in poor taste. If he was still around I was going to suggest he try yet again without making any references to the use of genitals at all, regardless of venue, since he can't seem to get that part right. But looks like I didn't have to bother. Sorry you missed it man. You can get some slim pickings from quoted responses.
Yeah, but it's not the same as fresh, run down, still twitching prey, is it?
How the Hell am I supposed to "Sparkle in the Sunlight" properly now? :mad:
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 25, 2010, 12:31:57 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on June 25, 2010, 12:15:57 PM
I havent got the joy of reading the entire thread, but, OP gives a good case of:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NietzscheWannabe (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NietzscheWannabe)
ETA: eh
Attn Everybody: Stop posting tvtropes links - I can't clikc one of those fucking things without getting lost for hours on that fucking site :argh!:
On a side note somebody should do a "pdtropes" version
Use your adblocker or something to block the tvtropes.org domain.
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 25, 2010, 05:23:15 PMWhen we say someone came up with a completely 'mad scheme', we mean that their plan is documented in the DSM-IV.
I tried looking them up in the new DSM-V, but it seems they dropped some mad beats.
Yo
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 28, 2010, 09:06:05 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2010, 08:55:32 PM
Just stop for a moment, and imagine if everyone in the world began fucking in the streets.
...
Ew.
Just.... Ew.
Just think of me alone, exposing my back to the world.
The horror.
One word: Cornrows.
You need to make that happen.
Quote from: LMNO on June 29, 2010, 01:16:16 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 28, 2010, 09:06:05 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2010, 08:55:32 PM
Just stop for a moment, and imagine if everyone in the world began fucking in the streets.
...
Ew.
Just.... Ew.
Just think of me alone, exposing my back to the world.
The horror.
One word: Cornrows.
You need to make that happen.
:shudders:
Quote from: Triple Zero on June 29, 2010, 10:47:47 AM
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 25, 2010, 12:31:57 PM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on June 25, 2010, 12:15:57 PM
I havent got the joy of reading the entire thread, but, OP gives a good case of:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NietzscheWannabe (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NietzscheWannabe)
ETA: eh
Attn Everybody: Stop posting tvtropes links - I can't clikc one of those fucking things without getting lost for hours on that fucking site :argh!:
On a side note somebody should do a "pdtropes" version
Well thanks a bunch!
Up until about 2 hours ago, I was blissfully unaware of this tvtropes place. But I made the mistake of 'just having a little looksee' and was caught up in the most inane, but utterly addictive tropeloop of mad dog's shite I've ever had the debatable pleasure of trying to 'unknow' again after the fact. (And I'm using the word 'fact' in it's most fictional sense ) Now I have to forget there ever was such a bookmark in my browser, (that I just can't bring myself to delete yet) under the shaky excuse of Desearching Researching precedents for new science an' ting, that even I find hard to justify. But unfortunately not impossible. :x :D :x :horrormirth:
Quote from: LMNO on June 29, 2010, 01:16:16 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 28, 2010, 09:06:05 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2010, 08:55:32 PM
Just stop for a moment, and imagine if everyone in the world began fucking in the streets.
...
Ew.
Just.... Ew.
Just think of me alone, exposing my back to the world.
The horror.
One word: Cornrows.
You need to make that happen.
:vom:
Quote from: Nigel on June 29, 2010, 08:39:46 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 29, 2010, 01:16:16 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 28, 2010, 09:06:05 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 28, 2010, 08:55:32 PM
Just stop for a moment, and imagine if everyone in the world began fucking in the streets.
...
Ew.
Just.... Ew.
Just think of me alone, exposing my back to the world.
The horror.
One word: Cornrows.
You need to make that happen.
:vom:
:lulz:
THE EVIL
THE EVIL
ZALGO... HE COMES...
Quote from: Nigel on June 29, 2010, 09:33:25 PM
THE EVIL
THE EVIL
ZALGO... HE COMES...
What?
This shit is sexy. Like Ricardo Montaban. And Roger Whittaker.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 29, 2010, 09:39:45 PM
Quote from: Nigel on June 29, 2010, 09:33:25 PM
THE EVIL
THE EVIL
ZALGO... HE COMES...
What?
This shit is sexy. Like Ricardo Montaban. And Roger Whittaker.
I just got a vision of the Dos Equis guy. "Stay thirsty my friends."
Quote from: Jenne on June 29, 2010, 09:41:19 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 29, 2010, 09:39:45 PM
Quote from: Nigel on June 29, 2010, 09:33:25 PM
THE EVIL
THE EVIL
ZALGO... HE COMES...
What?
This shit is sexy. Like Ricardo Montaban. And Roger Whittaker.
I just got a vision of the Dos Equis guy. "Stay thirsty my friends."
Even watching me sleep is awe-inspiring!
Dok,
Has only heard the radio commercials.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 29, 2010, 09:39:45 PM
Quote from: Nigel on June 29, 2010, 09:33:25 PM
THE EVIL
THE EVIL
ZALGO... HE COMES...
What?
This shit is sexy. Like Ricardo Montaban. And Roger Whittaker.
What? Together? The little fella would come and interrupt, shouting, "Boss, da plane, da plane!"
Good thing too, if you ask me. What happens on Fantasy Island, should stay on Fantasy Island!
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 29, 2010, 09:42:39 PM
Quote from: Jenne on June 29, 2010, 09:41:19 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 29, 2010, 09:39:45 PM
Quote from: Nigel on June 29, 2010, 09:33:25 PM
THE EVIL
THE EVIL
ZALGO... HE COMES...
What?
This shit is sexy. Like Ricardo Montaban. And Roger Whittaker.
I just got a vision of the Dos Equis guy. "Stay thirsty my friends."
Even watching me sleep is awe-inspiring!
Dok,
Has only heard the radio commercials.
(http://onthehouse.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/04/24/dos_equis_print_1.jpg)
google it when you get home. it's a riot.
Odd thing, really. Someone posted a question on Yahoo answers "When everyone is taking a dump on your forehead for trying to have integrity, what do you do?"...
So I posted:
"With such a lack of detail, it is impossible, IMO, to answer your question.
Sometimes, though, it can be not so much integrity as willful ignorance and insensitivity, in my personal experience. I always look to myself first for the source of my problems, do a careful and brutal analysis. If I find something, I try to fix it. If I don't, I ask the dumping parties exactly what I did wrong, take that into account, and try to fix it. Take them very seriously.
Looking to yourself, first, for the source of your problems, is a key to not being a cosmic schmuk. This is a world which we all must share, and when we encounter adversity, we can either see it as a learning opportunity, or resist learning anything from it and continue smashing our heads into a wall.
Not saying you're a schmuk, everyone, in their own way, can be one at times... Only providing my two cents. Hope it is helpful.
In the case that the dumping parties are being schmuks, well, at that point you have to stand up for yourself and step on some toes... But one must carefully look at oneself first, if the offending party always blames other people for their own problems, then this is strong evidence that they may be a cosmic schmuk. If we all cooperate, we'll all come through this smoothly, and perhaps learn something totally awesome in the process.
Cultivate compassion and do good things, and that is what will come back to you."
Despite the fact that I have no idea what a cosmic schmuk is in the first place. Oh well, didn't somebody here say words mean whatever we want them to mean :p? Noticed a parallel in the language of the question, and figured I'd just toss that in for the heck of it.
Anyway, enough of my own ignorant willfulness, time to save the world!... Or, do laundry, whatever the case may be.
Was it in LGBT?
i have decided that I like Fuji.
Sure, you are an epic spag, but the good kind.
I think this one is in danger of being a Biped. :fap:
It was in etiquette.
Thanks a lot, Pixie!... Now to find out what a spag is...
Quote from: Fujikoma on June 29, 2010, 10:14:39 PM
It was in etiquette.
Thanks a lot, Pixie!... Now to find out what a spag is...
Meaning is kinda fluid. Pick it up in context.
Quote from: Fujikoma on June 29, 2010, 10:14:39 PM
It was in etiquette.
Thanks a lot, Pixie!... Now to find out what a spag is...
Hi Fujikoma, try asking in Yahoo Answers. Perhaps in R&S, and see how much scripture you get pastedin reply. Mention that you think it might be a term fora follower of Pastafarianism, and does it mean you will soon feel his noodly appendages, dribbling Ragu sauce into your brain.
Quote from: BadBeast on June 29, 2010, 10:34:15 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on June 29, 2010, 10:14:39 PM
It was in etiquette.
Thanks a lot, Pixie!... Now to find out what a spag is...
Hi Fujikoma, try asking in Yahoo Answers. Perhaps in R&S, and see how much scripture you get pastedin reply. Mention that you think it might be a term fora follower of Pastafarianism, and does it mean you will soon feel his noodly appendages, dribbling Ragu sauce into your brain.
And watch out for David.
Because Jesus is a "FREE GIFT"
Fuck I hate David.
I'm going to follow Beast's advice as soon as I get back... Sounds like it might be fun. Hopefully it doesn't get me kicked off, but, oh well.
EDIT: Done
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100629144250AAY1jQW
EDIT EDIT: And, I've already been told it's a racist term for an Italian, and called a hater. Thanks guys! lol
Though I doubt it really is, because I can find no such definition when looking it up.
We have a slightly different usage for spag here...
yahoo answer bastardss!
Quote from: Fujikoma on June 29, 2010, 10:39:22 PM
I'm going to follow Beast's advice as soon as I get back... Sounds like it might be fun. Hopefully it doesn't get me kicked off, but, oh well.
EDIT: Done
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100629144250AAY1jQW
I just answered the 'question' you referred to. It probably won't get me oopsed, but what the hell, Yahoo Answers is a Toilet anyway.
This is true, Beast. With so many unoriginal trolls running around, I figure the best way to troll the place is to try to spread nice things. It's worked so far, I think... If I'm lucky it might even be infectious.
Quote from: Fujikoma on June 29, 2010, 10:51:00 PM
This is true, Beast. With so many unoriginal trolls running around, I figure the best way to troll the place is to try to spread nice things. It's worked so far, I think... If I'm lucky it might even be infectious.
Yeah, good luck.
Wretched hive of scum and villany. And that's apart from BadBeast.
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 29, 2010, 11:00:56 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on June 29, 2010, 10:51:00 PM
This is true, Beast. With so many unoriginal trolls running around, I figure the best way to troll the place is to try to spread nice things. It's worked so far, I think... If I'm lucky it might even be infectious.
Yeah, good luck.
Wretched hive of scum and villany. And that's apart from BadBeast.
[/quote
]Well, someone has to maintain standards there. And if I'm lucky, one day I might meet him. But srsly, stay away from the Cats section. Pure dripping unadulterated evil has a face. (Cafe Mocha, the one with no name, and a Skull as an Avatar, and Slitherin)
Quote from: BadBeast on June 29, 2010, 11:44:26 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 29, 2010, 11:00:56 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on June 29, 2010, 10:51:00 PM
This is true, Beast. With so many unoriginal trolls running around, I figure the best way to troll the place is to try to spread nice things. It's worked so far, I think... If I'm lucky it might even be infectious.
Yeah, good luck.
Wretched hive of scum and villany. And that's apart from BadBeast.
[/quote
]Well, someone has to maintain standards there. And if I'm lucky, one day I might meet him. But srsly, stay away from the Cats section. Pure dripping unadulterated evil has a face. (Cafe Mocha, the one with no name, and a Skull as an Avatar, and Slitherin)
I seem to recall legends told of the R&S raid on the Cats section.
The legends (and prophecies) seem to indicate that any assault on the Cats section can only end in pain. Abject, writhing pain.
Quote from: Fujikoma on June 29, 2010, 10:51:00 PM
This is true, Beast. With so many unoriginal trolls running around, I figure the best way to troll the place is to try to spread nice things. It's worked so far, I think... If I'm lucky it might even be infectious.
Um.
Dok,
Antibody
Quote from: Fujikoma on June 29, 2010, 10:51:00 PM
This is true, Beast. With so many unoriginal trolls running around, I figure the best way to troll the place is to try to spread nice things. It's worked so far, I think... If I'm lucky it might even be infectious.
Spreading nice things? Infectious nice things? *shudders* That's not Trolling, that's erm, . . . Elfing, or Fluffy rainbow fairies, skipping gaily through the meadows. Or 'flitting' perhaps. Strictly Mystickwicks if you ask me.
I think I hear someone 'clip clopping' acreoss my bridge right now. Something tasty, with horns!
Ah, the trolls do so love the mire of filth in which they bathe... When they take a second glance, they shall find naught but butterflies, rainbows and unicorns, and they will know the true extent of my evil power.
EDIT: I shall visit the cats page, so that I might see this evil for myself.
Quote from: Fujikoma on June 30, 2010, 12:06:47 AM
Ah, the trolls do so love the mire of filth in which they bathe... When they take a second glance, they shall find naught but butterflies, rainbows and unicorns, and they will know the true extent of my evil power.
EDIT: I shall visit the cats page, so that I might see this evil for myself.
The cheeky fucker who asked the 'Dump on my head' question has only gone and blocked me! I don't know, try and help some people, and they just throw it back in your face! All I suggested was that he got a hat!
I thought it was good advice, myself, even gave it a thumbs up.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 29, 2010, 11:52:32 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on June 29, 2010, 10:51:00 PM
This is true, Beast. With so many unoriginal trolls running around, I figure the best way to troll the place is to try to spread nice things. It's worked so far, I think... If I'm lucky it might even be infectious.
Um.
Dok,
Antibody
To clarify, he was talking about Yahoo!Answers, not PD.com.
(at least that's how it seemed to me)
I wasn't really sure what Doktor Howl meant by that... He thinks I'm talking about PD? Na. Was talking about Yahoo Answers.
Serves me right for skimming. :lulz:
I can kind of see why it's a toilet... I feel a mindless rant trying to claw its way out, I'll try to keep it short.
Ok, the whole reason it's filled with trolls in the first place, likely, is because the questions are usually asked by, well, people who are ignorant as to how search engines work. If they wanted a good answer to their question, they'd spend a lot less time just typing it in to google or other comparable engine and seeing what pops up, using their noodle to filter everything but what appears relevant to their query, and doing a little bit of research. Instead, they go to a place like Yahoo answers and open themselves up to trolling and misinformation, asking stupid questions which they could answer for themselves if they simply didn't fail the internet. What am I? Your stupid search monkey? When you say "dance" I dance? But, no matter.
Example of a stupid question I have seen?
Q: Why does pot stay in your system for so long compared to other drugs?
A: Because it's fat soluble, douchepickle. Other drugs are water soluble.
When I don't answer right off the top of my head with something out of left field, it usually takes me seconds to find the crucial information they are seeking, at which point I shake my head with shame at what humanity has become. Perhaps after I complete (or fail, with terrible consequences) my experiment with getting them all to play nice, I'll move on to teaching them to use the tools at their disposal, rendering yahoo answers obsolete for all but the more meaningful questions, like "When I flush the toilet, does my poop go to hell?".
But it's starting to get to me... I fear I may be converted by the very thing I sought to convert. The temptation to cut loose on some of these people is almost too great, but I must remind myself that to do so would be to turn on my belief that there is yet hope for humanity, and that even those less gifted in the noodle department can still use the tools at their disposal to educate themselves a little better and be able to hold up a decent conversation, nurture vs. nature, that sort of thing... The circumstances to which one is exposed, I believe, affect quality of thinking, and it is quality, not necessarily quantity, which is more important in achieving a correct understanding... In which case, I'm the wrong person for the job, but, one has to have their goals in life... This is horrendously oversimplified, and I could go on about it for days, but I figure shorter is better.
Just my thoughts on Yahoo answers, and why it's dumb as all hell.
:lulz: I like you, Fuji
I think your mistake is thinking that yahoo answers is for education or to somehow help the world
whereas it's much more useful for entertainment
I figured it was a microcosm in which to test my odd theories (or, more likely, some shit other people have thought of before) of social engineering. Oh well, my mistake.
Quote from: Fujikoma on June 30, 2010, 09:28:41 PM
I figured it was a microcosm in which to test my odd theories (or, more likely, some shit other people have thought of before) of social engineering. Oh well, my mistake.
The problem with that though is that people will troll it regardless. Because they can. It would be like trying to reform people in 4-chan not to use the word fag. It's just not going to happen.
You might want to consider a different venue to test your ideas. Preferrably one not so large and anonymous.
I've tested it in many places, and it seems to work, for the most part, barring my occasional emotional outbursts.
Need something bigger. I'm not necessarily going to succeed entirely, or even to any measurable extent, but I need more info. The very fact that the place itself encourages trolling will provide valuable feedback over time.
Eventually, though, I'll get bored with it and move on to something else.
Yahoo Answers is a really good covert MMORPG, diguised as a really bad information resource.
Quote from: BadBeast on June 30, 2010, 11:10:55 PM
Yahoo Answers is a really good covert MMORPG, diguised as a really bad information resource.
That's basically what I get out of it.
*casts "magic missile"*
Quote from: Fujikoma on June 30, 2010, 08:17:54 PM
I can kind of see why it's a toilet... I feel a mindless rant trying to claw its way out, I'll try to keep it short.
Ok, the whole reason it's filled with trolls in the first place, likely, is because the questions are usually asked by, well, people who are ignorant as to how search engines work. If they wanted a good answer to their question, they'd spend a lot less time just typing it in to google or other comparable engine and seeing what pops up, using their noodle to filter everything but what appears relevant to their query, and doing a little bit of research. Instead, they go to a place like Yahoo answers and open themselves up to trolling and misinformation, asking stupid questions which they could answer for themselves if they simply didn't fail the internet. What am I? Your stupid search monkey? When you say "dance" I dance? But, no matter.
Example of a stupid question I have seen?
Q: Why does pot stay in your system for so long compared to other drugs?
A: Because it's fat soluble, douchepickle. Other drugs are water soluble.
When I don't answer right off the top of my head with something out of left field, it usually takes me seconds to find the crucial information they are seeking, at which point I shake my head with shame at what humanity has become. Perhaps after I complete (or fail, with terrible consequences) my experiment with getting them all to play nice, I'll move on to teaching them to use the tools at their disposal, rendering yahoo answers obsolete for all but the more meaningful questions, like "When I flush the toilet, does my poop go to hell?".
But it's starting to get to me... I fear I may be converted by the very thing I sought to convert. The temptation to cut loose on some of these people is almost too great, but I must remind myself that to do so would be to turn on my belief that there is yet hope for humanity, and that even those less gifted in the noodle department can still use the tools at their disposal to educate themselves a little better and be able to hold up a decent conversation, nurture vs. nature, that sort of thing... The circumstances to which one is exposed, I believe, affect quality of thinking, and it is quality, not necessarily quantity, which is more important in achieving a correct understanding... In which case, I'm the wrong person for the job, but, one has to have their goals in life... This is horrendously oversimplified, and I could go on about it for days, but I figure shorter is better.
Just my thoughts on Yahoo answers, and why it's dumb as all hell.
Oh dear. An idealist. In Y/A. Could get messy. :eek: Magic Missiles won't help a bit . And he said something about going to the Cat section too. I'm not going in there after him.
I'm working my way up there, I've been sidetracked by the mental health section... It will likely take a while. Not a lot of trolls I've seen so far in the health sections, with good reason, I'd imagine... But, I see some of these questions and I'm like "This is a job for SUPER DUMBASS!" and proceed to charge in there with my hackneyed idealism, attempting to summon elves and fairies along the way.
EDIT: "He's going to hurt himself, and when he does, I won't help him."
This is going to end badly, Fuji.
I keep hearing that. I'm not completely stupid, my replies aren't near as bad as I make them out to be... More of a self-deprecating sense of humor, here...
I'm not advising any supplements of any kind, I refuse to. If it works for me, great, for someone else, it could cause a mother-fucking catastrophe. Of this, I am aware. I simply try to point out things that they may not have considered, which may help them, somewhat indirectly, with their issues, and advise them to seek help, whether from family, or from a cognitive therapist, or psychiatrist, if it sounds serious. I'm not mentioning sunshine and rainbows or anything, simply things that have helped me with my darker thoughts and notions, considerations it took me many years to learn to take into account... In all my blind bumbling, the only advice I ever got from anyone is "Get over it. Stop whining.", which, of course, just pissed me off and made things worse.
But if you're warning me about something specific, please, let me know, you're all starting to worry me with your concern.
EDIT: Well, there WAS one good source of advice... A cognitive therapist I saw when I was younger helped me out a great deal... Introduced me to Zen Buddhism, though it would be almost a decade later until I started to actually read about it, and only small amounts at that... But it helped a little, got my mind off of things... I will say that reading a few books on Buddhism helped me a great deal, and, it turned out "Get over it.", while poorly worded, and practically uninformative without throwing in a lot more stuff, was kind of the advice I needed, not necessarily advice that would be helpful to others.
The point at which my life really began to change was when I got my hands on a copy of the Illuminatus Trilogy (not that I'm advising anyone on Y/A read it)... Read it once, tossed it down, and moved right on to the blue cliff record, but it had me think about a few things and stop beating myself up over so much crap.
EDIT EDIT: And keep in mind, I'm not in this forum to advise anyone on anything, you guys seem pretty capable of handling problems yourselves. Simply here for the entertaining conversation, as well as input and criticism... Were anyone to ask, I'd be happy to try to help, but I highly doubt that will be an issue, much less that anyone here would want my help... I don't want this turned around against me, I've tried to word it the best I can.
When I first went in there I decided to give legit answers and only legit answers, even if the question was utterly ridiculous.
That lasted about a week. Maybe you'll fare better. Either way anyone in the Cats section is bound to be bored/obsessed/ready to jump down your throat.
The best way to Troll the Healthcare section, is to begin your answer with "I'm not a Doctor or anything, but". That pretty much covers everything. Unless it's "Pregnancy", in which case, steer clear of any question that isn't about names.
I got about 30 thumbs down one time for suggesting 'Vaginika' for a girl.
So that's the name I always suggest now. Then, if it gets reported, the appeal is always upheld.
If you are that interested in Y/A, I have a complete breakdown study taken over 2 years, of their dumbass automated moderation engine. How it makes it's decisions, etc.
It's not a *magic missile* or anything, but it's often more interesting than the rest of the site is.
I'm presuming you have a bunch of back up accounts? And a couple of sacrificials?
Their profanity bots will let you say Cuntybollocks, fucked, fucker, fuckered, shite, (but not shit), unless it's 'dogshit' or 'horseshit' (not bullshit though) You can say Cunting, Pissflaps, or Squishy, but a friend of mine was suspended for saying 'Vagina' .
You can't go into the Pets section, and refer to your female Dog as a bitch. Or your male chicken as a Cock. You can get away with as many titties as you like, but you can't say tit. Penis is frowned on too, so say 'beanus' instead. Or use the plural, 'Peni'.
I've been trying to avoid profanity, though, thank you for your input, Beast. I would indeed appreciate a link to the information you mentioned. It's not a magic missile, but it'll do in a pinch.
Think you'd get in trouble for suggesting odd names for kids like "Afro Samurai" or "Mister poopypants"? I don't know, just saying the word "afro" may be a hate crime these days.
Yes, Twiddleton, I have been lurking the cat forum over the past ten minutes, and while I have noticed that cat people seem to be much like the supervillains they're frequently portrayed as in movies, I'm strongly resisting the urge to ask a stupid question like "At what point does a cat undergo apotheosis?"... Think I can get away with just one without getting banned?
Quote from: Fujikoma on July 01, 2010, 02:08:55 AM
I've been trying to avoid profanity, though, thank you for your input, Beast. I would indeed appreciate a link to the information you mentioned. It's not a magic missile, but it'll do in a pinch.
Think you'd get in trouble for suggesting odd names for kids like "Afro Samurai" or "Mister poopypants"? I don't know, just saying the word "afro" may be a hate crime these days.
Yes, Twiddleton, I have been lurking the cat forum over the past ten minutes, and while I have noticed that cat people seem to be much like the supervillains they're frequently portrayed as in movies, I'm strongly resisting the urge to ask a stupid question like "At what point does a cat undergo apotheosis?"... Think I can get away with just one without getting banned?
Give it a shot if you like.
BB- I got a couple of VNs for the same thing
Cross your fingers, this could get ugly.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100630182221AAMhYH2
I doubt they'd know what it means... Or could be bothered to look it up... They might be afraid to answer it.
Quote from: Fujikoma on July 01, 2010, 02:22:22 AM
Cross your fingers, this could get ugly.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100630182221AAMhYH2
I doubt they'd know what it means... Or could be bothered to look it up... They might be afraid to answer it.
BadBeast- LMFAO!!!!
I just answered it. But the other answerers are much more deranged than me, and they are really believing that shit too! 9 lives! And Cat's don't die from natural causes? They're all emotionally dead psychopaths, like thier cats.
And not half an hour ago, I was swearing I'd never go back in that place. Oh well, I'm nothing if not fickle flexible.
And reckless now.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100630190114AAHIyWk
LOL, are you referring to the post about the 23 cats gathered in a circle, and the cat, at the end of it's ninth life, joining the Justified Ancients of Bast? Please tell me you caught that all, and are just being silly (likely, but I never can tell these things)... That had to have been someone from here... Plus, I've seen that name before, on the Spag question...
Thanks for the answer.
Yeah, don't turn your back on that one. But as far as nastiness goes, Slitherin, and Cafe Mocha are the ones who need to have their tails tied together, and hung over a washing line. And mocked. Then it's sack and brick time. :boot:
Quote from: Fujikoma on July 01, 2010, 03:31:32 AM
LOL, are you referring to the post about the 23 cats gathered in a circle, and the cat, at the end of it's ninth life, joining the Justified Ancients of Bast? Please tell me you caught that all, and are just being silly (likely, but I never can tell these things)... That had to have been someone from here... Plus, I've seen that name before, on the Spag question...
Thanks for the answer.
If you look closely, that's a clearly a Discordian.
I know. The number 23 along with the Justified Ancients of "insert something here" tipped me off, as well as the "fnord" in an answer to a previous question of mine.
Quote from: Fujikoma on July 01, 2010, 03:31:32 AM
LOL, are you referring to the post about the 23 cats gathered in a circle, and the cat, at the end of it's ninth life, joining the Justified Ancients of Bast? Please tell me you caught that all, and are just being silly (likely, but I never can tell these things)... That had to have been someone from here... Plus, I've seen that name before, on the Spag question...
Thanks for the answer.
Yeah, I think Actual Answer is one of the good guys. I've had a few of his contacts in my contacts box, over the years, he's more Kitteh than Cat. The Yahoo Kitteh contintingent are nothing like the Cat people.
And Iason Oubache is in his contacts box. (Dead giveaway, that is)
I commented on one of that person's questions about Dominionism.
Quote from: BadBeast on July 01, 2010, 03:56:34 AM
Quote from: Fujikoma on July 01, 2010, 03:31:32 AM
LOL, are you referring to the post about the 23 cats gathered in a circle, and the cat, at the end of it's ninth life, joining the Justified Ancients of Bast? Please tell me you caught that all, and are just being silly (likely, but I never can tell these things)... That had to have been someone from here... Plus, I've seen that name before, on the Spag question...
Thanks for the answer.
Yeah, I think Actual Answer is one of the good guys. I've had a few of his contacts in my contacts box, over the years, he's more Kitteh than Cat. The Yahoo Kitteh contintingent are nothing like the Cat people.
Kitteh contingent?
Cats are dangeous and psycho, and stay in the 'Cats' section, and you have two versions of Vampire Kitteh, I know he wouldn't be in there if you were a 'Cat' person, So I made the assumption you were more kitteh than Cat.
Quote from: BadBeast on July 01, 2010, 04:59:16 AM
Cats are dangeous and psycho, and stay in the 'Cats' section, and you have two versions of Vampire Kitteh, I know he wouldn't be in there if you were a 'Cat' person, So I made the assumption you were more kitteh than Cat.
Ah, fair enough. lol, I don't even have a cat.
I don't think I'll have much problem with these cat people as long as I'm extremely wary of them. I have a cat, I like cats, but I like dogs a lot more. Sure, they can't figure out a litterbox, but they're always happy to see you (as long as you're not a sadistic fuckhead)... My cat has separation anxiety issues, though... I'm sort of borrowing him for the moment, have been for 6 months. He yowls as loud as he can whenever I go outside, and keeps it up for 20 minutes or so. Of course, if I asked about that in the cats section, I think I'd be accused of Nazi war crimes and be told that I was being reported to the FBI... That's just the impression I get.
bimp
Damn you! I expect this will mean another account gobbled up. . . . . Oh well here goes.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111011155955AAbd4df
Quote from: BadBeast on October 12, 2011, 12:03:20 AM
Damn you! I expect this will mean another account gobbled up. . . . . Oh well here goes.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111011155955AAbd4df
:lulz:
If you ever want to troll pregnant ladies and new moms (and who doesn't???) some surefire winners are;
1. Drinking a glass of wine to stop premature contractions/help with morning sickness
2. "I'm not planning on breastfeeding because I don't want to wreck my boobs"
3. Anything about circumcision
4. Refusing vaccination
Oh, and for dog people, announce that you just bought two purebred puppies of some popular breed from the pet store, and ask how old they should be before you breed them.
Quote from: BadBeast on October 12, 2011, 12:03:20 AM
Damn you! I expect this will mean another account gobbled up. . . . . Oh well here goes.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111011155955AAbd4df
Aaaaand, . . . . Question deleted! :lulz: