...about Discordianism that attracts sociopaths?
Is it that they lack the ability to make moral distinctions, subtle or otherwise, and thus take literally doctrines such as "Nothing is true, everything is permitted"?
Is it the perception that an understanding of the nature of the world as containing both order and disorder must therefore mandate an embracing of disorder and an abandonment of social mores?
Is it that the socially maladjusted see Discordianism as a haven where they will find unconditional acceptance, regardless how repugnant their behavior?
It seems like the primary complaint of those who seek us out and then find us wanting is that we're just too much like everyone else. We're too serious, too lucid, not wacky enough, not careless enough, not asocial enough. Too human.
What the hell is that all about? It's like they're looking for the Island of the Sociopaths where they can finally be accepted and feel at home.
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 27, 2012, 01:07:09 AM
...about Discordianism that attracts sociopaths?
I think the common misperception is that, because we laugh at some of society's standards, that WE don't have any. Thing is, I make fun of many of society's standards BECAUSE they are sociopathic. And, yes, there has definitely been some sociopathic behavior here, though I am not quite prepared to call anyone a sociopath just yet. That being said...
If you don't care when someone close to you dies, you need therapy.
If you insist on walking into a wake and shitting on the corpse to show your grief, you need therapy.
If you think the free market should prevail at the cost of the common man, you need a soul.
Stuff like that.
I'd be offended by your insinuation that social hiccups and misreading a group's openness to distasteful jokes somehow amounts to Sociopathic behavior, but since I'm a Sociopath, I can't be.
Now we could use actual measurements for sociopathic behavior, or lack thereof, like maintaining a decent family through hard times for 10 years, or making and keeping meaningful off-line friendships for even longer, or tripling one's income in the space of 6 years by getting along with almost everyone at work and changing jobs by impressing new employers with social as well as technical skills. But that would be inconvenient so I fully support your tactic of taking the next best definition of sociopathy, "A tendency to make people mad on the Internet."
And aren't we all just looking for home, when you get right down to it?
Anomie and moral relativism does NOT equate being an emphatic person with critical thinking skills.
Having the representation that everything is equally valid, can and will justify any and all "abhorrent" behaviour.
This is a simplistic statement from my part, but its fucking raining and my power might go out (also a bit troubled about an essay).
And vex, you are derailing a thread into drama, when in the OP it was not directed at anyone in particular.
Did it say "every discordian"? did it say "why is vex a sociopath"? No, it didnt.
Might as well have. But in case that's just my sociopathic paranoia flaring up, I would like to say that maybe it isn't sociopaths who are drawn to discordians, but people who are also not at ease with the status quo. And they don't flock to discordianism like its the promised land or anything. Most of them never consider it, and for many others discordianism is just one stop along their journey to wherever they end up. Saying failure here is tantamount to mental illness is nothing if not self-righteous.
Quote from: v3x on August 27, 2012, 02:03:54 AM
Might as well have.
Why? I know you guys had differences in other threads, but does that mean that "ghost of butthurt" gonna taint everything else?
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 27, 2012, 02:31:24 AM
Quote from: v3x on August 27, 2012, 02:03:54 AM
Might as well have.
Why? I know you guys had differences in other threads, but does that mean that "ghost of butthurt" gonna taint everything else?
OP here directly followed reprimanding me for displaying "antisocial" behavior in another thread. I know there's always "plausible deniability" in these things but I'm not inclined to believe it here than from the government.
As for butthurt, eh, no I'd rather have a decent conversation. I'll admit it's partly my fault for disregarding the social temperature and making jokes just to get a rise out of people, and I'm willing to adjust my attitude in that respect. It would be nice to encounter the Monkey Reflex a little less often though.
Quote from: v3x on August 27, 2012, 02:44:00 AM
I'll admit it's partly my fault for disregarding the social temperature and making jokes just to get a rise out of people, and I'm willing to adjust my attitude in that respect. It would be nice to encounter the Monkey Reflex a little less often though.
Action ---> Reaction.
It's how we get things done.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 01:13:45 AM
If you don't care when someone close to you dies, you need therapy.
Yeah, I've been working on that for a while now. Kind of hard when you're poor enough all you can afford are the therapists that just tell you you need jesus, and that's your problem. I'm working toward being able to afford better help at great cost to my family, I was just hoping to find a little niche of society that could accept me, weird-ass psychological problems and all.
Figured I should explain that I know I need help, before I'm told by more people that I need help.
I'm supposing that was directed my way at least, as you stated there had been sociopathic behavior around here and I hadn't noticed anyone else saying anything about not being sad when people you're close to die. I know you're not taking a shot at me or anything, just laying it out there. I was asked an honest question and gave an honest answer.
Quote from: HandsomeGirl on August 27, 2012, 03:12:21 AM
I was just hoping to find a little niche of society that could accept me, weird-ass psychological problems and all.
We accept anyone regardless of weird fucking baggage
1...As long as they're willing to work on that baggage, and not just fester in it. I myself spend a lot of time examining my own weird-ass problems, but with the intent of reducing them.
I also spend a lot of time being wrong. That's something else I like to work on. In both cases, you stop making excuses, and work on the problem. Once you see you have it, of course...But that's a whole other issue.
1 Pope Lecherous and Babylon Horuv excepted, of course. There are limits.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 01:13:45 AM
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 27, 2012, 01:07:09 AM
...about Discordianism that attracts sociopaths?
I think the common misperception is that, because we laugh at some of society's standards, that WE don't have any. Thing is, I make fun of many of society's standards BECAUSE they are sociopathic. And, yes, there has definitely been some sociopathic behavior here, though I am not quite prepared to call anyone a sociopath just yet. That being said...
If you don't care when someone close to you dies, you need therapy.
If you insist on walking into a wake and shitting on the corpse to show your grief, you need therapy.
If you think the free market should prevail at the cost of the common man, you need a soul.
Stuff like that.
Although I was certainly inspired by antisocial behavior/statements of some of the people currently here, more what I was thinking about when I wrote this are the people who come and then go, usually in a fit of pique about how we're not Really Real Discordians Enough because we don't find their sociopathy interesting, cool, funny, admirable, etc.
We seem to get a lot of them. A LOT. :lol:
Also, i dont think discordia attracts any more sociopaths than say, atheism or satanism
Without any real basis or hard facts, id think "sociopath attraction": discordia < atheism < satanism
Maybe "born again christians" are at the top of the list if we are speaking of "religion and beliefs that are freely chosen and not born into it", i dont know.
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 27, 2012, 03:20:32 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 01:13:45 AM
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 27, 2012, 01:07:09 AM
...about Discordianism that attracts sociopaths?
I think the common misperception is that, because we laugh at some of society's standards, that WE don't have any. Thing is, I make fun of many of society's standards BECAUSE they are sociopathic. And, yes, there has definitely been some sociopathic behavior here, though I am not quite prepared to call anyone a sociopath just yet. That being said...
If you don't care when someone close to you dies, you need therapy.
If you insist on walking into a wake and shitting on the corpse to show your grief, you need therapy.
If you think the free market should prevail at the cost of the common man, you need a soul.
Stuff like that.
Although I was certainly inspired by antisocial behavior/statements of some of the people currently here, more what I was thinking about when I wrote this are the people who come and then go, usually in a fit of pique about how we're not Really Real Discordians Enough because we don't find their sociopathy interesting, cool, funny, admirable, etc.
We seem to get a lot of them. A LOT. :lol:
Weirdos assume that because we're weird, we're
their kind of weird. Or vice-versa.
Then when it turns out that we're not or they're not, they feel all rejected, just like they always do...But they didn't
expect it here, so they have to lash out.
And then they go somewhere else, convinced that the problem lies with US and not THEM.
Rinse, repeat.
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 27, 2012, 03:21:20 AM
Also, i dont think discordia attracts any more sociopaths than say, atheism or satanism
Hardly a ringing endorsement. :lulz:
There's also Dickhead Pickle, if we're talking about people who are completely gross and vile.
"Kids whose parents can't work three jobs and teach them deserve what they get," and all that.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 03:23:22 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 27, 2012, 03:21:20 AM
Also, i dont think discordia attracts any more sociopaths than say, atheism or satanism
Hardly a ringing endorsement. :lulz:
Well, the newsfeed doesnt help either does it? :lol:
Quote from: HandsomeGirl on August 27, 2012, 03:12:21 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 01:13:45 AM
If you don't care when someone close to you dies, you need therapy.
Yeah, I've been working on that for a while now. Kind of hard when you're poor enough all you can afford are the therapists that just tell you you need jesus, and that's your problem. I'm working toward being able to afford better help at great cost to my family, I was just hoping to find a little niche of society that could accept me, weird-ass psychological problems and all.
Figured I should explain that I know I need help, before I'm told by more people that I need help.
I'm supposing that was directed my way at least, as you stated there had been sociopathic behavior around here and I hadn't noticed anyone else saying anything about not being sad when people you're close to die. I know you're not taking a shot at me or anything, just laying it out there. I was asked an honest question and gave an honest answer.
Note: There is a difference between accepting people with weird-ass problems, and accepting the display of said weird-ass problems without smacking the offender in the dick.
This crew is quite capable of both accepting you, and telling you (in EXCRUCIATING detail) when you have shat on the coffee table.
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on August 27, 2012, 03:25:41 AM
There's also Dickhead Pickle, if we're talking about people who are completely gross and vile.
"Kids whose parents can't work three jobs and teach them deserve what they get," and all that.
Yeah, that's a big one. The guys who read RAW and assume we're all Libertarians. :lulz:
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 27, 2012, 03:26:11 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 03:23:22 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 27, 2012, 03:21:20 AM
Also, i dont think discordia attracts any more sociopaths than say, atheism or satanism
Hardly a ringing endorsement. :lulz:
Well, the newsfeed doesnt help either does it? :lol:
That's ECH just being unpleasant.
Quote from: v3x on August 27, 2012, 02:03:54 AM
Might as well have. But in case that's just my sociopathic paranoia flaring up, I would like to say that maybe it isn't sociopaths who are drawn to discordians, but people who are also not at ease with the status quo. And they don't flock to discordianism like its the promised land or anything. Most of them never consider it, and for many others discordianism is just one stop along their journey to wherever they end up. Saying failure here is tantamount to mental illness is nothing if not self-righteous.
:lulz: I wouldn't have chalked you up as a sociopath, dude, and I still wouldn't, but after this I gotta say I wouldn't be surprised by a diagnosis that includes narcissism.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 03:26:29 AM
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on August 27, 2012, 03:25:41 AM
There's also Dickhead Pickle, if we're talking about people who are completely gross and vile.
"Kids whose parents can't work three jobs and teach them deserve what they get," and all that.
Yeah, that's a big one. The guys who read RAW and assume we're all Libertarians. :lulz:
There was also that quote about people who are on welfare are categorically and without exception lazy, evil people who shouldn't be supported by HIS TAX DOLLARS, and essentially the subtext was they should all be put on the street.
Quote from: HandsomeGirl on August 27, 2012, 03:12:21 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 01:13:45 AM
If you don't care when someone close to you dies, you need therapy.
Yeah, I've been working on that for a while now. Kind of hard when you're poor enough all you can afford are the therapists that just tell you you need jesus, and that's your problem. I'm working toward being able to afford better help at great cost to my family, I was just hoping to find a little niche of society that could accept me, weird-ass psychological problems and all.
Figured I should explain that I know I need help, before I'm told by more people that I need help.
I'm supposing that was directed my way at least, as you stated there had been sociopathic behavior around here and I hadn't noticed anyone else saying anything about not being sad when people you're close to die. I know you're not taking a shot at me or anything, just laying it out there. I was asked an honest question and gave an honest answer.
AFAIK I wrote the OP before you made your comment about not being sad when people close to you die. You don't come across as a sociopath, either. So far, at least. But you are certainly affirming my snap judgement about being an attention-whore! :lol:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 03:23:22 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 27, 2012, 03:21:20 AM
Also, i dont think discordia attracts any more sociopaths than say, atheism or satanism
Hardly a ringing endorsement. :lulz:
Newsfeed, though.
Quote from: v3x on August 27, 2012, 02:44:00 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 27, 2012, 02:31:24 AM
Quote from: v3x on August 27, 2012, 02:03:54 AM
Might as well have.
Why? I know you guys had differences in other threads, but does that mean that "ghost of butthurt" gonna taint everything else?
OP here directly followed reprimanding me for displaying "antisocial" behavior in another thread. I know there's always "plausible deniability" in these things but I'm not inclined to believe it here than from the government.
As for butthurt, eh, no I'd rather have a decent conversation. I'll admit it's partly my fault for disregarding the social temperature and making jokes just to get a rise out of people, and I'm willing to adjust my attitude in that respect. It would be nice to encounter exhibit the Monkey Reflex a little less often though.
wut :lulz:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 03:23:22 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 27, 2012, 03:21:20 AM
Also, i dont think discordia attracts any more sociopaths than say, atheism or satanism
Hardly a ringing endorsement. :lulz:
Oh my god, yes! :lulz:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 03:22:55 AM
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 27, 2012, 03:20:32 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 01:13:45 AM
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 27, 2012, 01:07:09 AM
...about Discordianism that attracts sociopaths?
I think the common misperception is that, because we laugh at some of society's standards, that WE don't have any. Thing is, I make fun of many of society's standards BECAUSE they are sociopathic. And, yes, there has definitely been some sociopathic behavior here, though I am not quite prepared to call anyone a sociopath just yet. That being said...
If you don't care when someone close to you dies, you need therapy.
If you insist on walking into a wake and shitting on the corpse to show your grief, you need therapy.
If you think the free market should prevail at the cost of the common man, you need a soul.
Stuff like that.
Although I was certainly inspired by antisocial behavior/statements of some of the people currently here, more what I was thinking about when I wrote this are the people who come and then go, usually in a fit of pique about how we're not Really Real Discordians Enough because we don't find their sociopathy interesting, cool, funny, admirable, etc.
We seem to get a lot of them. A LOT. :lol:
Weirdos assume that because we're weird, we're their kind of weird. Or vice-versa.
Then when it turns out that we're not or they're not, they feel all rejected, just like they always do...But they didn't expect it here, so they have to lash out.
And then they go somewhere else, convinced that the problem lies with US and not THEM.
Rinse, repeat.
That seems to be it. You nailed it in one.
Forefront on my mind is IANAR... it might not be a sociopath, but there's something massively wrong with it that isn't just autism. Likewise with babs. Some kind of serious personality disorder that makes it almost impossible for it to perceive other human beings as equally valid and not just furniture/toys/external validation units that refuse to cooperate.
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 27, 2012, 03:32:31 AM
Quote from: v3x on August 27, 2012, 02:44:00 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 27, 2012, 02:31:24 AM
Quote from: v3x on August 27, 2012, 02:03:54 AM
Might as well have.
Why? I know you guys had differences in other threads, but does that mean that "ghost of butthurt" gonna taint everything else?
OP here directly followed reprimanding me for displaying "antisocial" behavior in another thread. I know there's always "plausible deniability" in these things but I'm not inclined to believe it here than from the government.
As for butthurt, eh, no I'd rather have a decent conversation. I'll admit it's partly my fault for disregarding the social temperature and making jokes just to get a rise out of people, and I'm willing to adjust my attitude in that respect. It would be nice to encounter exhibit the Monkey Reflex a little less often though.
wut :lulz:
Yes, because I'm the only one here to go fucking nuts and get personal because somebody says something I don't like. Fuck you Nigel.
But that's the end of it. I wish there was a "don't show me posts by this Spag anymore" button.
there is, its called the nemesis list
or if it isnt, wtf is that for?
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 27, 2012, 03:50:24 AM
there is, its called the nemesis list
or if it isnt, wtf is that for?
I found it. So far so quiet...
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 27, 2012, 03:50:24 AM
there is, its called the nemesis list
or if it isnt, wtf is that for?
nemesis list = buddy list.
shit.
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on August 27, 2012, 03:25:41 AM
There's also Dickhead Pickle, if we're talking about people who are completely gross and vile.
"Kids whose parents can't work three jobs and teach them deserve what they get," and all that.
I don't even think he's a sociopath, to tell the truth... just damaged and stuck in a really shitty loop.
I've only ever met one sociopath in person, and she is fucking terrifying, not least because it took me close to seven years to realize it. She's not one of my friends, but a friend of a friend. Actual sociopaths are really frightening, and often don't exhibit the kinds of antisocial behavior that people consider earmarks for sociopathy. Which actually makes it that much more irritating/frustrating to me when people use antisocial behavior to try to get attention or to make people think they're cool/edgy/special. People with antisocial personality disorder ARE special; they're fortunately fairly rare. It's just that it's the kind of special that needs to be avoided like you would avoid West Nile virus.
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 27, 2012, 04:01:30 AM
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on August 27, 2012, 03:25:41 AM
There's also Dickhead Pickle, if we're talking about people who are completely gross and vile.
"Kids whose parents can't work three jobs and teach them deserve what they get," and all that.
I don't even think he's a sociopath, to tell the truth... just damaged and stuck in a really shitty loop.
I've only ever met one sociopath in person, and she is fucking terrifying, not least because it took me close to seven years to realize it. She's not one of my friends, but a friend of a friend. Actual sociopaths are really frightening, and often don't exhibit the kinds of antisocial behavior that people consider earmarks for sociopathy. Which actually makes it that much more irritating/frustrating to me when people use antisocial behavior to try to get attention or to make people think they're cool/edgy/special. People with antisocial personality disorder ARE special; they're fortunately fairly rare. It's just that it's the kind of special that needs to be avoided like you would avoid West Nile virus.
I don't think he's a sociopath either. Just vile.
Yeah, real sociopaths are scary fucking people, and I'm glad they aren't more prevalent.
Quote from: v3x on August 27, 2012, 03:40:31 AM
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 27, 2012, 03:32:31 AM
Quote from: v3x on August 27, 2012, 02:44:00 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 27, 2012, 02:31:24 AM
Quote from: v3x on August 27, 2012, 02:03:54 AM
Might as well have.
Why? I know you guys had differences in other threads, but does that mean that "ghost of butthurt" gonna taint everything else?
OP here directly followed reprimanding me for displaying "antisocial" behavior in another thread. I know there's always "plausible deniability" in these things but I'm not inclined to believe it here than from the government.
As for butthurt, eh, no I'd rather have a decent conversation. I'll admit it's partly my fault for disregarding the social temperature and making jokes just to get a rise out of people, and I'm willing to adjust my attitude in that respect. It would be nice to encounter exhibit the Monkey Reflex a little less often though.
wut :lulz:
Yes, because I'm the only one here to go fucking nuts and get personal because somebody says something I don't like. Fuck you Nigel.
But that's the end of it. I wish there was a "don't show me posts by this Spag anymore" button.
Try "ignore"
it's in your profile settings.
We all get emotional and fly off the handle, especially when our buttons are pushed. It's because we're
people. If you want to play the "hit people's buttons" game, or the "pretend to be a hardass" game, you should probably learn to cope with the fallout when people Do Exactly What You Expected Them To Do.
Or, you could stop playing stupid games and hitting people's buttons, and perhaps even find the bravery in yourself to admit being wrong so you can stop screeching and start learning. 'Cause I gotta say, screeching is not a good look on you. It doesn't suit you at all.
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 27, 2012, 04:11:43 AM
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on August 27, 2012, 03:54:18 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 27, 2012, 03:50:24 AM
there is, its called the nemesis list
or if it isnt, wtf is that for?
nemesis list = buddy list.
Quote from: v3x on August 27, 2012, 03:55:00 AM
shit.
:lulz:
That was faust's doing. :lulz:
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on August 27, 2012, 04:13:24 AM
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 27, 2012, 04:11:43 AM
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on August 27, 2012, 03:54:18 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 27, 2012, 03:50:24 AM
there is, its called the nemesis list
or if it isnt, wtf is that for?
nemesis list = buddy list.
Quote from: v3x on August 27, 2012, 03:55:00 AM
shit.
:lulz:
That was faust's doing. :lulz:
It's good as fuck.
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 27, 2012, 04:15:11 AM
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on August 27, 2012, 04:13:24 AM
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 27, 2012, 04:11:43 AM
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on August 27, 2012, 03:54:18 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 27, 2012, 03:50:24 AM
there is, its called the nemesis list
or if it isnt, wtf is that for?
nemesis list = buddy list.
Quote from: v3x on August 27, 2012, 03:55:00 AM
shit.
:lulz:
That was faust's doing. :lulz:
It's good as fuck.
Isn't it?
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on August 27, 2012, 03:54:18 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 27, 2012, 03:50:24 AM
there is, its called the nemesis list
or if it isnt, wtf is that for?
nemesis list = buddy list.
DAMMIT, FREEKY, WHY'D YOU TELL EVERYBODY????? :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Thats fine, and if you'd notice I admitted partial blame there and pledged to change my heathen ways. You might acknowledge that instead of finding another pin to jab at me. If it's a question of blame, I share it. But I don't OWN it, and it's not in my nature to limp away with my tail between my legs. So, for the record, I have apologized 3 times now and my Fuck You stands.
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 27, 2012, 03:30:00 AM
Quote from: HandsomeGirl on August 27, 2012, 03:12:21 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 01:13:45 AM
If you don't care when someone close to you dies, you need therapy.
Yeah, I've been working on that for a while now. Kind of hard when you're poor enough all you can afford are the therapists that just tell you you need jesus, and that's your problem. I'm working toward being able to afford better help at great cost to my family, I was just hoping to find a little niche of society that could accept me, weird-ass psychological problems and all.
Figured I should explain that I know I need help, before I'm told by more people that I need help.
I'm supposing that was directed my way at least, as you stated there had been sociopathic behavior around here and I hadn't noticed anyone else saying anything about not being sad when people you're close to die. I know you're not taking a shot at me or anything, just laying it out there. I was asked an honest question and gave an honest answer.
AFAIK I wrote the OP before you made your comment about not being sad when people close to you die. You don't come across as a sociopath, either. So far, at least. But you are certainly affirming my snap judgement about being an attention-whore! :lol:
I get that way when feeling butthurt. They're temporary episodes and I can genereally admit it was stupid afterwards.
Quote from: v3x on August 27, 2012, 04:30:20 AM
Thats fine, and if you'd notice I admitted partial blame there and pledged to change my heathen ways. You might acknowledge that instead of finding another pin to jab at me. If it's a question of blame, I share it. But I don't OWN it, and it's not in my nature to limp away with my tail between my legs. So, for the record, I have apologized 3 times now and my Fuck You stands.
You have? Sorry, probably didn't see it, as I mostly haven't been reading your posts and it's not like you bothered to PM me.
It's also possible that I didn't see it because I don't read "I'm sorry but You Made Me Do It" as an actual apology.
You might have to tap into your dignity a little and stop making a fool of yourself for it to register properly.
Quote from: HandsomeGirl on August 27, 2012, 04:39:45 AM
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 27, 2012, 03:30:00 AM
Quote from: HandsomeGirl on August 27, 2012, 03:12:21 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 01:13:45 AM
If you don't care when someone close to you dies, you need therapy.
Yeah, I've been working on that for a while now. Kind of hard when you're poor enough all you can afford are the therapists that just tell you you need jesus, and that's your problem. I'm working toward being able to afford better help at great cost to my family, I was just hoping to find a little niche of society that could accept me, weird-ass psychological problems and all.
Figured I should explain that I know I need help, before I'm told by more people that I need help.
I'm supposing that was directed my way at least, as you stated there had been sociopathic behavior around here and I hadn't noticed anyone else saying anything about not being sad when people you're close to die. I know you're not taking a shot at me or anything, just laying it out there. I was asked an honest question and gave an honest answer.
AFAIK I wrote the OP before you made your comment about not being sad when people close to you die. You don't come across as a sociopath, either. So far, at least. But you are certainly affirming my snap judgement about being an attention-whore! :lol:
I get that way when feeling butthurt. They're temporary episodes and I can genereally admit it was stupid afterwards.
Well, that's a good thing.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 03:16:38 AM
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I was just hoping to find a little niche of society that could accept me, weird-ass psychological problems and all.
We accept anyone regardless of weird fucking baggage1...As long as they're willing to work on that baggage, and not just fester in it. I myself spend a lot of time examining my own weird-ass problems, but with the intent of reducing them.
I also spend a lot of time being wrong. That's something else I like to work on. In both cases, you stop making excuses, and work on the problem. Once you see you have it, of course...But that's a whole other issue.
1 Pope Lecherous and Babylon Horuv excepted, of course. There are limits.
Well, that's nice to hear. Festering in something is never fun and doesn't get you anywhere, so I try not to do it.
Plus, it just sounds gross.
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Thats fine, and if you'd notice I admitted partial blame there and pledged to change my heathen ways. You might acknowledge that instead of finding another pin to jab at me. If it's a question of blame, I share it. But I don't OWN it, and it's not in my nature to limp away with my tail between my legs. So, for the record, I have apologized 3 times now and my Fuck You stands.
You have? Sorry, probably didn't see it, as I mostly haven't been reading your posts and it's not like you bothered to PM me.
I didn't really read anything you said but I'll keep talking like I did, because I assume I already know everything.
It's also possible that I didn't see it because I don't read "I'm sorry but You Made Me Do It" as an actual apology.
Any apology short of "you're entirely right, I'm entirely wrong, and I hereby grovel for mercy" just doesn't cut the mustard.
You might have to tap into your dignity a little and stop making a fool of yourself for it to register properly.
I am Nigel, hear me roar, etc.
yawn
Oh woe! The ghost of butthurt has no mercy!
V3x, are you trying to nail Khara or something?
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on August 27, 2012, 06:42:50 AM
V3x, are you trying to nail Khara or something?
:lol:
NO I HAVE ASPERGERS, OK? ITS A REAL THING. FUCK OFF.
TELL ME YOU LOVE ME GOD DAMMIT
TELL ME YOU LOVE ME
GOD DAMMIT
Actually it's just an unhealthy infatuation with Nigel.
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 27, 2012, 01:07:09 AM
...about Discordianism that attracts sociopaths?
Is it that they lack the ability to make moral distinctions, subtle or otherwise, and thus take literally doctrines such as "Nothing is true, everything is permitted"?
Is it the perception that an understanding of the nature of the world as containing both order and disorder must therefore mandate an embracing of disorder and an abandonment of social mores?
Is it that the socially maladjusted see Discordianism as a haven where they will find unconditional acceptance, regardless how repugnant their behavior?
It seems like the primary complaint of those who seek us out and then find us wanting is that we're just too much like everyone else. We're too serious, too lucid, not wacky enough, not careless enough, not asocial enough. Too human.
What the hell is that all about? It's like they're looking for the Island of the Sociopaths where they can finally be accepted and feel at home.
LET DR. PANGO TELL YOU SOMETHING ABOUT THE DISCORDIANISM AND THE SOCIOPATHS:
WWW.PRINCIPIADISCORDIA.COM/FORUM (HTTP://www.principiadiscordia.com/FORUM)
ALL QUESTIONS ANSWERED AT ABOVE LINK.
I've never seen anyone here who I would consider a sociopath, there were a few over the years I would suspect but that's about it.
Uh...that Magnotta guy?
:lol: Yeah, I think he could qualify
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 27, 2012, 04:01:30 AM
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on August 27, 2012, 03:25:41 AM
There's also Dickhead Pickle, if we're talking about people who are completely gross and vile.
"Kids whose parents can't work three jobs and teach them deserve what they get," and all that.
I don't even think he's a sociopath, to tell the truth... just damaged and stuck in a really shitty loop.
I've only ever met one sociopath in person, and she is fucking terrifying, not least because it took me close to seven years to realize it. She's not one of my friends, but a friend of a friend. Actual sociopaths are really frightening, and often don't exhibit the kinds of antisocial behavior that people consider earmarks for sociopathy. Which actually makes it that much more irritating/frustrating to me when people use antisocial behavior to try to get attention or to make people think they're cool/edgy/special. People with antisocial personality disorder ARE special; they're fortunately fairly rare. It's just that it's the kind of special that needs to be avoided like you would avoid West Nile virus.
Same thing? Just asking cos it kinda makes the post read different if they aren't.
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on August 27, 2012, 09:25:06 AM
Uh...that Magnotta guy?
I forgot about him, yes I think he is the only one I could say is a sociopath.
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Might as well have.
Why? I know you guys had differences in other threads, but does that mean that "ghost of butthurt" gonna taint everything else?
OP here directly followed reprimanding me for displaying "antisocial" behavior in another thread. I know there's always "plausible deniability" in these things but I'm not inclined to believe it here than from the government.
As for butthurt, eh, no I'd rather have a decent conversation. I'll admit it's partly my fault for disregarding the social temperature and making jokes just to get a rise out of people, and I'm willing to adjust my attitude in that respect. It would be nice to encounter exhibit the Monkey Reflex a little less often though.
wut :lulz:
Yes, because I'm the only one here to go fucking nuts and get personal because somebody says something I don't like. Fuck you Nigel.
But that's the end of it. I wish there was a "don't show me posts by this Spag anymore" button.
There is, if you put them on ignore. You still see that they are posting but you have to make an extra click to actually see their posts. Makes for a much more pleasant forum experience, if you ask me.
I find precious AND hilarious that someone thinks they can use postings on a message board to determine whether or not someone is a sociopath.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sociopath Found ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
And to think, they let me into schools. :lol:
I do know one...
Perfectly nice guy. Charming. Funny. Real ladies' man.
When his wife left him for another man (they had an open marriage, both had others on the side) and filed for a divorce, I found him sitting down doing a cost analysis, and debating whether it would be more advantageous to kill her and get rid of the body. He had a plan, and, near as I can tell, it COULD have worked. It occurred to me, as he was debating, that it would work... except for the pesky witness he was using as a sounding board.
Fortunately, she didn't take a shot at getting a bite of his military pension, but... scared the hell out of me.
Quote from: Luna on August 27, 2012, 12:14:43 PM
I do know one...
Perfectly nice guy. Charming. Funny. Real ladies' man.
When his wife left him for another man (they had an open marriage, both had others on the side) and filed for a divorce, I found him sitting down doing a cost analysis, and debating whether it would be more advantageous to kill her and get rid of the body. He had a plan, and, near as I can tell, it COULD have worked. It occurred to me, as he was debating, that it would work... except for the pesky witness he was using as a sounding board.
Fortunately, she didn't take a shot at getting a bite of his military pension, but... scared the hell out of me.
:eek:
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Quote from: Luna on August 27, 2012, 12:14:43 PM
I do know one...
Perfectly nice guy. Charming. Funny. Real ladies' man.
When his wife left him for another man (they had an open marriage, both had others on the side) and filed for a divorce, I found him sitting down doing a cost analysis, and debating whether it would be more advantageous to kill her and get rid of the body. He had a plan, and, near as I can tell, it COULD have worked. It occurred to me, as he was debating, that it would work... except for the pesky witness he was using as a sounding board.
Fortunately, she didn't take a shot at getting a bite of his military pension, but... scared the hell out of me.
:eek:
Yeah. The slow, dawning horror when I realized he was SERIOUS...
I found a detailed ish definitition of what actually makes a sociopath;
http://www.sociopathicstyle.com/traits/classic.htm
Quote from: Placid Dingo on August 27, 2012, 02:32:43 PM
I found a detailed ish definitition of what actually makes a sociopath;
http://www.sociopathicstyle.com/traits/classic.htm
Quote13. LACK OF REALISTIC, LONG-TERM GOALS -- an inability or persistent failure to develop and execute long-term plans and goals; a nomadic existence, aimless, lacking direction in life.
ofuk :cry:
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Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 27, 2012, 04:01:30 AM
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on August 27, 2012, 03:25:41 AM
There's also Dickhead Pickle, if we're talking about people who are completely gross and vile.
"Kids whose parents can't work three jobs and teach them deserve what they get," and all that.
I don't even think he's a sociopath, to tell the truth... just damaged and stuck in a really shitty loop.
I've only ever met one sociopath in person, and she is fucking terrifying, not least because it took me close to seven years to realize it. She's not one of my friends, but a friend of a friend. Actual sociopaths are really frightening, and often don't exhibit the kinds of antisocial behavior that people consider earmarks for sociopathy. Which actually makes it that much more irritating/frustrating to me when people use antisocial behavior to try to get attention or to make people think they're cool/edgy/special. People with antisocial personality disorder ARE special; they're fortunately fairly rare. It's just that it's the kind of special that needs to be avoided like you would avoid West Nile virus.
Same thing? Just asking cos it kinda makes the post read different if they aren't.
Yes, it was recategorized and renamed some years ago but the terms can be used interchangeably.
Also, I think many people get psychopathy and sociopathy confused. A person with antisocial personality disorder may have much in common with a psychopath, but they are not the same thing. They have overlap, but psychopathic personality disorder is a different, much rarer, diagnosis than antisocial personality disorder. Luka Magnotta is probably a psychopath. It's unlikely that anyone here is a sociopath, but it's not unlikely that some of the people who have come and gone again, especially those who seem to have a hard time grasping the concept that other people are valid individuals in their own right and not abstractions, may conceivably have been. We'll never know.
I don't see sociopathy here. What I see could be better classified as "poor comedic timing combined with simple lack of manners."
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 10:55:44 AM
I find precious AND hilarious that someone thinks they can use postings on a message board to determine whether or not someone is a sociopath.
OMG, I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE ARE SPECULATING ABOUT STUFF ON THE INTERNET! :argh!: :argh!: :argh!: :lol:
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on August 27, 2012, 04:24:03 PM
I don't see sociopathy here. What I see could be better classified as "poor comedic timing combined with simple lack of manners."
I'm tending to agree with this.
But I do occasionally see sociopathic behavior or acts, which isn't precisely the same thing as someone being an outright sociopath. Well, that's not entirely accurate...What I occasionally see, what I'm talking about (not all that recently, though) is aggressive attempts at apathy..."I'm too jaded to care", or "I can't be arsed to give a shit.", which I think is more of an attempt at a cultivated persona more than an actual statement of belief. It's creeping Pinkboyism, which can happen to the best of us if we're not vigilant.
This should not be confused with Horrormirth, which is more of a "laugh so I don't scream" reaction, and an indicator that the person DOES care.
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 27, 2012, 04:24:47 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 10:55:44 AM
I find precious AND hilarious that someone thinks they can use postings on a message board to determine whether or not someone is a sociopath.
OMG, I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE ARE SPECULATING ABOUT STUFF ON THE INTERNET! :argh!: :argh!: :argh!: :lol:
Speculating about people, given that this clearly has ties to the Armstrong/joke fiasco. I just think it's a little far-fetched.
RWHN,
Speculating
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 04:44:12 PM
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 27, 2012, 04:24:47 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 10:55:44 AM
I find precious AND hilarious that someone thinks they can use postings on a message board to determine whether or not someone is a sociopath.
OMG, I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE ARE SPECULATING ABOUT STUFF ON THE INTERNET! :argh!: :argh!: :argh!: :lol:
Speculating about people, given that this clearly has ties to the Armstrong/joke fiasco. I just think it's a little far-fetched.
RWHN,
Speculating
I made it pretty clear early on in the thread that the topic was inspired by some of the antisocial behavior I've seen lately, but that I don't think anyone here is a sociopath.
But since that's not consistent with your agenda, you ignored it. :lol:
I have no agenda, I'm just speculating on the internet.
RWHN,
Speculator
Also, whenever I read the thread title I break out my Mike Patton impression.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 04:44:12 PM
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 27, 2012, 04:24:47 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 10:55:44 AM
I find precious AND hilarious that someone thinks they can use postings on a message board to determine whether or not someone is a sociopath.
OMG, I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE ARE SPECULATING ABOUT STUFF ON THE INTERNET! :argh!: :argh!: :argh!: :lol:
Speculating about people, given that this clearly has ties to the Armstrong/joke fiasco. I just think it's a little far-fetched.
RWHN,
Speculating
Speaking of speculating, etc...I thought you had Nigel on ignore?
I do. Hides posts but not thread starts.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 06:32:55 PM
I do. Hides posts but not thread starts.
You responded to a response. So I'm thinking that either you DO have her on ignore, but continually walk around it (in which case, why bother?), or you SAY you have her on ignore as a means of getting back at her in some way.
Ignore function hides OP.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 06:35:37 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 06:32:55 PM
I do. Hides posts but not thread starts.
You responded to a response. So I'm thinking that either you DO have her on ignore, but continually walk around it (in which case, why bother?), or you SAY you have her on ignore as a means of getting back at her in some way.
I DO have her on ignore but if she starts a thread I do click to read the post to see what the thread is about. And of course I can see posts whenever anyone quotes her.
And I have nothing to "get back" at her about. I've been pretty straightforward with how I feel about her and that hasn't changed. Which is why she's on ignore. But I felt like there was at best some guilt by association going on here with v3x's comments and so I chose to speak up. I would've done that if you were trying to make the connection or anyone else.
I think that there are a number of contributing factors that tie Discordianism and anti-social behavior (of varying degrees).
First, one of its founders was nutty as a fruitcake. A person with anti-social tendencies would find a lot to identify with in reading some of Kerry's writings.
Second, one if its loudest proponents wrote a lot of stuff which a person with anti-social tendencies would find a lot to identify with. RAw wrote some excellent stuff, but it definitely has an appeal to those that can't fit in with the social norm.
Third, once it hit the Internet, Discordianism has become synonymous with trolling, a group that trolls based on philosophy seems like a philosophy that many people with anti-social tendencies might find inviting.
Fourth, the PD and many Discordian writings celebrate being a bit 'mad'/'crazy'/'nutty'/'weird', all of which would appeal to people that can't fit in with what is 'normal' in our society.
Fifth, if you're only looking at Internet Discordian interaction... its damned difficult to determine any sort of psychological profile based on internet posts. What we may see as anti-social may be any number of things.
Side comment, I think that the Discordianism of PD.com varies from 'somewhat similar' to 'vastly different' when compared to other interpretations of Discordianism. When people come here thinking this Discordianism is like their Discordianism, there may be a jarring shock which could manifest as anti-social behavior to someone across the Internet.
Besides, the PD calls Discordians 'maniacs', its fables/myths are absurd and occasionally anti-social. At the very least, Discordianism tends to throw dirt into the face of society. It cracks jokes at the expense of societies sacred cows. It draws an us vs them between the cool people and the greyfaces. In a simple interpretation of that Us vs Them... the greyfaces appear to be the bosses, politicians and all the pinks and normals... if you're anti-social, that line up probably sounds like something right up your alley. In fact, I think it could be argued that Discordianism is anti-social/anti-culture in some sense. It makes sense that it would attract people with anti-social/anti-culture tendencies.
Consider:
"Think for Yourself, Schmuck!"
"Everything is True in Some Sense, False in Some Sense, Meaningless in Some Sense"
"Life is the art of playing games"
"What is wrong with that, if it is what you want to do?"
"Wipe thine ass on what is written, and grin like a ninny at what is spoken"
Most of us here don't tend to interpret those as particularly anti-social, but if a person is coming from an anti-social perspective, those kinds of quotes would probably seem right in line...
I have to agree with the general comments though, that I don't think I've ever run across a Discordian that I would actually consider a sociopath or psychopath. Antisocial (maybe), weird (definitely). I have a very good Discordian friend who had some serious psychological issues and had to spend time in a hospital and is on medication... but that happened to him post-Discordian by several years.
Society, in general, is an arsed up clusterfuck of a thing. It's probably a natural enough reaction, when you discover this for yourself, to shun the whole fucking shooting match. I can testify to this approach. It's a kneejerk, at it's pinnacle worst but I wouldn't say I didn't understand it. Then you explore anarchy and nihilism and that takes a while to work through. Eventually you probably arrive at a place where you accept the need for society and the benefits and whatnot but you still despise the way it works in practice. Until that point? Yeah I reckon there's every chance you're gonna log on here and come across like a total fucking aspie.
I think it is probably pretty accurate to suggest there are some similarities amongst people who are attracted to Discordianism, I just think it is way too far to suggest there is a sociopathic thread.
And I'm not even sure about the anti-social thing. I mean, I don't see how Discordianism could work if you truly didn't give a fuck about other human beings. I think many would tend to see Discordianism as a type of tool for helping, for bettering...
Unless someone is purely in it for the horrormirthic entertainment.
I haven't come across too many of those myself, not even here.
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on August 27, 2012, 03:29:51 AM
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There's also Dickhead Pickle, if we're talking about people who are completely gross and vile.
"Kids whose parents can't work three jobs and teach them deserve what they get," and all that.
Yeah, that's a big one. The guys who read RAW and assume we're all Libertarians. :lulz:
There was also that quote about people who are on welfare are categorically and without exception lazy, evil people who shouldn't be supported by HIS TAX DOLLARS, and essentially the subtext was they should all be put on the street.
Never said anything of the sort, ever.
Fucking liar.
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 27, 2012, 04:01:30 AM
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on August 27, 2012, 03:25:41 AM
There's also Dickhead Pickle, if we're talking about people who are completely gross and vile.
"Kids whose parents can't work three jobs and teach them deserve what they get," and all that.
I don't even think he's a sociopath, to tell the truth... just damaged and stuck in a really shitty loop.
I've only ever met one sociopath in person, and she is fucking terrifying, not least because it took me close to seven years to realize it. She's not one of my friends, but a friend of a friend. Actual sociopaths are really frightening, and often don't exhibit the kinds of antisocial behavior that people consider earmarks for sociopathy. Which actually makes it that much more irritating/frustrating to me when people use antisocial behavior to try to get attention or to make people think they're cool/edgy/special. People with antisocial personality disorder ARE special; they're fortunately fairly rare. It's just that it's the kind of special that needs to be avoided like you would avoid West Nile virus.
Much like anyone else, I'm a work in progress, with the misfortune of having a poorly poured foundation that occasionally needs the cracks patched.
Consequently, I've spent quite a bit of time the last year re-thinking some things I thought I had down. I've stayed away from posting in clearly radioactive threads because it isn't much fun for anyone involved.
Being deliberately misquoted to the point of bald faced lying, as above, I just won't stomach. I don't care if Freeky thinks I am a bad person. I do care if she's lying about something I've said.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 07:49:49 PM
I think it is probably pretty accurate to suggest there are some similarities amongst people who are attracted to Discordianism, I just think it is way too far to suggest there is a sociopathic thread.
And I'm not even sure about the anti-social thing. I mean, I don't see how Discordianism could work if you truly didn't give a fuck about other human beings. I think many would tend to see Discordianism as a type of tool for helping, for bettering...
Unless someone is purely in it for the horrormirthic entertainment.
I haven't come across too many of those myself, not even here.
I don't think that making things better is inherent in Discordianism at its most basic. That is a very positive interpretation... but Absurdism (which Discordianism seems most close to in a philosophical sense) isn't particularly about bettering or helping. At its most simple its simply saying that the "meaning of life" is whatever meaning you choose to give it. If that's helping people break out of old mindsets, or laughing as it all burns down, both are valid absurdest positions.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 07:31:30 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 06:35:37 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 06:32:55 PM
I do. Hides posts but not thread starts.
You responded to a response. So I'm thinking that either you DO have her on ignore, but continually walk around it (in which case, why bother?), or you SAY you have her on ignore as a means of getting back at her in some way.
I DO have her on ignore but if she starts a thread I do click to read the post to see what the thread is about. And of course I can see posts whenever anyone quotes her.
And I have nothing to "get back" at her about. I've been pretty straightforward with how I feel about her and that hasn't changed. Which is why she's on ignore. But I felt like there was at best some guilt by association going on here with v3x's comments and so I chose to speak up. I would've done that if you were trying to make the connection or anyone else.
May I ask how long, precisely, this feud can be expected to continue?
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Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 07:49:49 PM
I think it is probably pretty accurate to suggest there are some similarities amongst people who are attracted to Discordianism, I just think it is way too far to suggest there is a sociopathic thread.
And I'm not even sure about the anti-social thing. I mean, I don't see how Discordianism could work if you truly didn't give a fuck about other human beings. I think many would tend to see Discordianism as a type of tool for helping, for bettering...
Unless someone is purely in it for the horrormirthic entertainment.
I haven't come across too many of those myself, not even here.
I don't think that making things better is inherent in Discordianism at its most basic. That is a very positive interpretation... but Absurdism (which Discordianism seems most close to in a philosophical sense) isn't particularly about bettering or helping. At its most simple its simply saying that the "meaning of life" is whatever meaning you choose to give it. If that's helping people break out of old mindsets, or laughing as it all burns down, both are valid absurdest positions.
I dunno though, because, I've always felt there was an, at least implied, ideal or idea that Discordia was something to share in one form or another and it seems like it is more than just sharing a funny book. I'm not saying Discordia was necessarily conceived as some big social movement or anything, but I always felt that it also wasn't meant to be insular or solely inward.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 08:24:28 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on August 27, 2012, 08:14:54 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 07:49:49 PM
I think it is probably pretty accurate to suggest there are some similarities amongst people who are attracted to Discordianism, I just think it is way too far to suggest there is a sociopathic thread.
And I'm not even sure about the anti-social thing. I mean, I don't see how Discordianism could work if you truly didn't give a fuck about other human beings. I think many would tend to see Discordianism as a type of tool for helping, for bettering...
Unless someone is purely in it for the horrormirthic entertainment.
I haven't come across too many of those myself, not even here.
I don't think that making things better is inherent in Discordianism at its most basic. That is a very positive interpretation... but Absurdism (which Discordianism seems most close to in a philosophical sense) isn't particularly about bettering or helping. At its most simple its simply saying that the "meaning of life" is whatever meaning you choose to give it. If that's helping people break out of old mindsets, or laughing as it all burns down, both are valid absurdest positions.
I dunno though, because, I've always felt there was an, at least implied, ideal or idea that Discordia was something to share in one form or another and it seems like it is more than just sharing a funny book. I'm not saying Discordia was necessarily conceived as some big social movement or anything, but I always felt that it also wasn't meant to be insular or solely inward.
On the contrary, I think of Discordianism as exclusively insular. It is explicitly individualized, including large warnings about trying to be the Next Big Thing. I think it's great that Discordians can, sometimes, come together for a purpose or a cause or just to see who can eat the most oranges. But ultimately the philosophy means nothing if it doesn't mean something
to you, and whatever it means to you is very likely to be meaningless to anyone else.
That's my interpretation of it, and you'll agree with me
or else.
Well, I guess I can't ask.
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Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 06:32:55 PM
I do. Hides posts but not thread starts.
You responded to a response. So I'm thinking that either you DO have her on ignore, but continually walk around it (in which case, why bother?), or you SAY you have her on ignore as a means of getting back at her in some way.
I DO have her on ignore but if she starts a thread I do click to read the post to see what the thread is about. And of course I can see posts whenever anyone quotes her.
And I have nothing to "get back" at her about. I've been pretty straightforward with how I feel about her and that hasn't changed. Which is why she's on ignore. But I felt like there was at best some guilt by association going on here with v3x's comments and so I chose to speak up. I would've done that if you were trying to make the connection or anyone else.
May I ask how long, precisely, this feud can be expected to continue?
Eh, don't know how to answer that. I don't like her, period. I don't seeing that changing, ever. I mean, I don't wish any ill-will against her or anything, I'd push her out of the way of an oncoming car, I'd pull over and help her if she was stranded with a flat or something. But otherwise, I'm quite fine not having much to do with her at all.
And I'm sure that is a two way street. Sometimes personalities go together like gasoline and open flames. So there is no "feud" in a very strict sense. And I know that ostracizes me here somewhat, but I'm okay with that.
I only responded to this thread because I felt someone was being misrepresented unfairly, and I'll always speak up when I feel that is happening, and no matter who it comes from. This time it was from her.
But, she says she wasn't targetting him, and I'll take her at her word, though I note that wasn't offered in the OP and only after when it was directly asked by vex.
But the record will show that I generally ignore and don't respond to about 99% of what she has posted since I put her on ignore, which I think was like two or three drug threads ago, approximately.
Quote from: Disco Pickle on August 27, 2012, 07:59:26 PM
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on August 27, 2012, 03:29:51 AM
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Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on August 27, 2012, 03:25:41 AM
There's also Dickhead Pickle, if we're talking about people who are completely gross and vile.
"Kids whose parents can't work three jobs and teach them deserve what they get," and all that.
Yeah, that's a big one. The guys who read RAW and assume we're all Libertarians. :lulz:
There was also that quote about people who are on welfare are categorically and without exception lazy, evil people who shouldn't be supported by HIS TAX DOLLARS, and essentially the subtext was they should all be put on the street.
Never said anything of the sort, ever.
Fucking liar.
Hey, dickhead:
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,30548.75/msg,1107453.html
In fact, that whole thread is full of your lulziness.
Quote from: v3x on August 27, 2012, 08:29:07 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 08:24:28 PM
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I think it is probably pretty accurate to suggest there are some similarities amongst people who are attracted to Discordianism, I just think it is way too far to suggest there is a sociopathic thread.
And I'm not even sure about the anti-social thing. I mean, I don't see how Discordianism could work if you truly didn't give a fuck about other human beings. I think many would tend to see Discordianism as a type of tool for helping, for bettering...
Unless someone is purely in it for the horrormirthic entertainment.
I haven't come across too many of those myself, not even here.
I don't think that making things better is inherent in Discordianism at its most basic. That is a very positive interpretation... but Absurdism (which Discordianism seems most close to in a philosophical sense) isn't particularly about bettering or helping. At its most simple its simply saying that the "meaning of life" is whatever meaning you choose to give it. If that's helping people break out of old mindsets, or laughing as it all burns down, both are valid absurdest positions.
I dunno though, because, I've always felt there was an, at least implied, ideal or idea that Discordia was something to share in one form or another and it seems like it is more than just sharing a funny book. I'm not saying Discordia was necessarily conceived as some big social movement or anything, but I always felt that it also wasn't meant to be insular or solely inward.
On the contrary, I think of Discordianism as exclusively insular. It is explicitly individualized, including large warnings about trying to be the Next Big Thing. I think it's great that Discordians can, sometimes, come together for a purpose or a cause or just to see who can eat the most oranges. But ultimately the philosophy means nothing if it doesn't mean something to you, and whatever it means to you is very likely to be meaningless to anyone else.
That's my interpretation of it, and you'll agree with me or else.
But I don't think about it as trying to spread YOUR vision of Discordia, it's more the idea that one open their view to get A vision of Discordia, whatever that may endup being. So, sharing the idea of. TFY,S, but what they Think, is ultimately up to them. But just making that breakthrough, alone, I feel, ends up helping.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 08:39:14 PM
Eh, don't know how to answer that. I don't like her, period. I don't seeing that changing, ever.
Okay.
But I gotta say, sniping from behind ignore isn't exactly the classiest thing I've ever seen, given your response as quoted.
Part of my response, you mean. The rest of it explains why I did "snipe" in this case, which was because I felt another member of the community was being treated unfairly. I would expect if you had me on ignore and I was misrepresenting Nigel you'd do the same thing.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 08:50:37 PM
Part of my response, you mean. The rest of it explains why I did "snipe" in this case, which was because I felt another member of the community was being treated unfairly. I would expect if you had me on ignore and I was misrepresenting Nigel you'd do the same thing.
I honestly can't say, because I've never used an ignore feature here, and I CAN'T use the ignore feature here.
But I'm pretty sure that if I was going to get involved, I would turn the ignore feature off until I felt comfortable that the issue had been addressed entirely.
I'm also curious, here: Nigel did slam on you, there's no denying that, but others did worse. Are you ignoring them, too?
She is not exclusive to my ignore list, no.
And Nigel is not on my ignore list because she "slammed" me.
She's on it because she is like nails-on-a-chalkboard for me.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 08:24:28 PM
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on August 27, 2012, 08:14:54 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 07:49:49 PM
I think it is probably pretty accurate to suggest there are some similarities amongst people who are attracted to Discordianism, I just think it is way too far to suggest there is a sociopathic thread.
And I'm not even sure about the anti-social thing. I mean, I don't see how Discordianism could work if you truly didn't give a fuck about other human beings. I think many would tend to see Discordianism as a type of tool for helping, for bettering...
Unless someone is purely in it for the horrormirthic entertainment.
I haven't come across too many of those myself, not even here.
I don't think that making things better is inherent in Discordianism at its most basic. That is a very positive interpretation... but Absurdism (which Discordianism seems most close to in a philosophical sense) isn't particularly about bettering or helping. At its most simple its simply saying that the "meaning of life" is whatever meaning you choose to give it. If that's helping people break out of old mindsets, or laughing as it all burns down, both are valid absurdest positions.
I dunno though, because, I've always felt there was an, at least implied, ideal or idea that Discordia was something to share in one form or another and it seems like it is more than just sharing a funny book. I'm not saying Discordia was necessarily conceived as some big social movement or anything, but I always felt that it also wasn't meant to be insular or solely inward.
Then that's what it means to you ;-)
Omar's 'sharing' often seemed to me more of 'share this mindfuck for the fuck of fucking minds"
RAW's 'sharing' on the other hand seems more like a 'share this and help people break out of their old programs'.
I think they're both equally valid, but may say more about the Discordian than Discordianism.
ETA: It was actually PD.com that woke me up to the idea that Discordianism wasn't necessarily about sharing, not sharing or whatever else 'I' thought it was about.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 08:44:21 PM
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Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on August 27, 2012, 03:29:51 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 03:26:29 AM
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on August 27, 2012, 03:25:41 AM
There's also Dickhead Pickle, if we're talking about people who are completely gross and vile.
"Kids whose parents can't work three jobs and teach them deserve what they get," and all that.
Yeah, that's a big one. The guys who read RAW and assume we're all Libertarians. :lulz:
There was also that quote about people who are on welfare are categorically and without exception lazy, evil people who shouldn't be supported by HIS TAX DOLLARS, and essentially the subtext was they should all be put on the street.
Never said anything of the sort, ever.
Fucking liar.
Hey, dickhead:
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,30548.75/msg,1107453.html
In fact, that whole thread is full of your lulziness.
He's right, I did misquote.
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,26404.0.html
But of course people on welfare have to have drug tests (pg 2), because so many of them a crackheads that this is actually something that poor ass states should spend money on.
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on August 27, 2012, 09:59:05 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 08:44:21 PM
Quote from: Disco Pickle on August 27, 2012, 07:59:26 PM
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on August 27, 2012, 03:29:51 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 27, 2012, 03:26:29 AM
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on August 27, 2012, 03:25:41 AM
There's also Dickhead Pickle, if we're talking about people who are completely gross and vile.
"Kids whose parents can't work three jobs and teach them deserve what they get," and all that.
Yeah, that's a big one. The guys who read RAW and assume we're all Libertarians. :lulz:
There was also that quote about people who are on welfare are categorically and without exception lazy, evil people who shouldn't be supported by HIS TAX DOLLARS, and essentially the subtext was they should all be put on the street.
Never said anything of the sort, ever.
Fucking liar.
Hey, dickhead:
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,30548.75/msg,1107453.html
In fact, that whole thread is full of your lulziness.
He's right, I did misquote.
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,26404.0.html
But of course people on welfare have to have drug tests (pg 2), because so many of them a crackheads that this is actually something that poor ass states should spend money on.
People who say things like that should have their assets frozen and be required to do a ten year stint of minimum wage jobs and public assistance.
I think its interesting that the libertarian slant RAW generally discussed was from a civil perspective (i.e. Government should stay out of my house, my body, my bedroom), yet many Libertarian Discordians seem to focus on the tax dollars. Its also interesting that depending on which RAW book you happen to be reading, you can find arguments for socialism (the RICH Economy) including a 'leisure class' which is basically a welfare class. You can find arguments for anarchism of differing sorts and elements of social Libertarianism. The interesting feature in all of these though is his permeating view that people should be taking care of each other in some sense. Bemoaning 'Welfare Queens' or 'Drug User Deadbeats' seems far outside the RAW philosophies.
But then I've run into people that hold Ayn Rand and RAW up as their heroes... so I guess it all depends on what mixers people are using with their brain cells...
Maybe Vodka or Moonshine or Jenkem. :lulz:
I think Discordians get together because that's what people do.
The stick apart thing...I don't think it was supposed to go one way or another, but to take its natural course. I've mentioned before that one thing I miss about going to church, the only thing actually, is the sense of community. Maybe that's why people get together religiously in the first place: to have some intangible, unnecessary link to other people of a similar mindset.
Whether we're supposed to be buddies..well...TBH I can't even understand why anyone would want to discuss Discordianism...
Really? You can't? Why not?
Quote from: Alty on August 27, 2012, 11:25:47 PM
I think Discordians get together because that's what people do.
The stick apart thing...I don't think it was supposed to go one way or another, but to take its natural course. I've mentioned before that one thing I miss about going to church, the only thing actually, is the sense of community. Maybe that's why people get together religiously in the first place: to have some intangible, unnecessary link to other people of a similar mindset.
Whether we're supposed to be buddies..well...TBH I can't even understand why anyone would want to discuss Discordianism...
I think those are valid points. Though I've had many awesome discussions about Discordianism, generally in the not serious, funny, optimistic, hippie, psychedelic, positive variety of Discordianism. Once Discordianism starts landing on 'serious' issues, or issues that are serious to some people, it becomes more contentious. Discordianism doesn't necessarily care about feminism or politics or the war on some drugs or what other people think about an individuals decision to play with madijick etc. I think thats why they are such hot button issues here.
I can see arguments from both sides which discordian philosophies would support. It's not simple/cut&dried like it is with many other philosophies. As I said above, its probably much more telling about the individuals involved in the debate, than the debate or Discordianism applied to the debate. For me the 'stick apart' comment is more about not falling into a groupthink about what Discordianism is or isn't... not that we shouldn't associate, hang out or poke each other with sticks... but that we shouldn't necessarily modify our discordianism to meet the expectations, ideals, beliefs etc of other discordians.
No but what is the point of talking about the Curse of Greyface if we aren't to go out and snap people out of those Curses. Not to tell them HOW and WHAT to think after, but, to just THINK. You have to connnect and commune with people to do that kind of thing. WHAT we think is indeed individual, and should be.
But what was BIP all about? It was to be a cold bucket of water or a sharp point of a stick in the eye. I dunno about other authors, but I didn't throw down on that just to see my, fake, name in print. It was maybe to help a few spags figure out there were more paths, more opportunities than what they've been allowing themselves to see.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 11:42:06 PM
Really? You can't? Why not?
No, not really. I was thinking of this:
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,27364.0.html
Quote from: Bebek Sincap Ratatosk on August 27, 2012, 11:42:19 PM
Once Discordianism starts landing on 'serious' issues, or issues that are serious to some people, it becomes more contentious.
As it should.
Quote from: Alty on August 27, 2012, 11:50:33 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 11:42:06 PM
Really? You can't? Why not?
No, not really. I was thinking of this:
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,27364.0.html
Could be worse. I joined the FB discordia group...And with a few exceptions, I found it to be pretty damn depressing.
I mean, once you've talked about the law of fives, yada yada, what do you do then? The same thing over again.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 11:47:19 PM
No but what is the point of talking about the Curse of Greyface if we aren't to go out and snap people out of those Curses. Not to tell them HOW and WHAT to think after, but, to just THINK. You have to connnect and commune with people to do that kind of thing. WHAT we think is indeed individual, and should be.
But what was BIP all about? It was to be a cold bucket of water or a sharp point of a stick in the eye. I dunno about other authors, but I didn't throw down on that just to see my, fake, name in print. It was maybe to help a few spags figure out there were more paths, more opportunities than what they've been allowing themselves to see.
It can be discussed.. it can be promoted, evangelized, smacked upside the head of some poor pink cabbage... I don't think there's anything wrong with that. All I'm saying is that it isn't necessarily an inherent part of Discordianism. Its something that works for some Discordians.
Hmm, I still disagree but I see no need to press the point.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 11:47:19 PM
No but what is the point of talking about the Curse of Greyface if we aren't to go out and snap people out of those Curses.
To legitimize our sense of superiority, of course.
What were you thinking?
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Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 27, 2012, 11:47:19 PM
No but what is the point of talking about the Curse of Greyface if we aren't to go out and snap people out of those Curses.
To legitimize our sense of superiority, of course.
What were you thinking?
To have fewer idiot robots.
Okay, so in The Revelation, on Page 9, Eris says:
"Speak of me as Discord, to show contrast with the pentagon. Tell constricted mankind that there are no rules, unless they choose to invent rules."
Speak, tell, it's about communication with other people.
RWHN, for the record I think that Lumberjim already holds the title for "unhealthiest Nigel fixation", but if you keep posting about it at this rate you might be a contender.
Go champ!
I'm only posting about it because TGRR asked me about it. Otherwise I could give a fuck about you.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 28, 2012, 04:29:21 PM
I'm only posting about it because TGRR asked me about it. Otherwise I could give a fuck about you.
That totally explains why you follow me all over the board replying to everything I post and repeatedly mentioning that you have me on ignore! I was wondering.
I think he's crushing on you, Nigel. :lulz:
Quote from: Disco Pickle on August 27, 2012, 08:12:10 PM
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 27, 2012, 04:01:30 AM
Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on August 27, 2012, 03:25:41 AM
There's also Dickhead Pickle, if we're talking about people who are completely gross and vile.
"Kids whose parents can't work three jobs and teach them deserve what they get," and all that.
I don't even think he's a sociopath, to tell the truth... just damaged and stuck in a really shitty loop.
I've only ever met one sociopath in person, and she is fucking terrifying, not least because it took me close to seven years to realize it. She's not one of my friends, but a friend of a friend. Actual sociopaths are really frightening, and often don't exhibit the kinds of antisocial behavior that people consider earmarks for sociopathy. Which actually makes it that much more irritating/frustrating to me when people use antisocial behavior to try to get attention or to make people think they're cool/edgy/special. People with antisocial personality disorder ARE special; they're fortunately fairly rare. It's just that it's the kind of special that needs to be avoided like you would avoid West Nile virus.
Much like anyone else, I'm a work in progress, with the misfortune of having a poorly poured foundation that occasionally needs the cracks patched.
Consequently, I've spent quite a bit of time the last year re-thinking some things I thought I had down. I've stayed away from posting in clearly radioactive threads because it isn't much fun for anyone involved.
Being deliberately misquoted to the point of bald faced lying, as above, I just won't stomach. I don't care if Freeky thinks I am a bad person. I do care if she's lying about something I've said.
Quote from: Disco Pickle on August 28, 2012, 12:40:59 AM
Hey, go fuck yourself. Here's what I said, and you should probably get in the habit of actually quoting people before you lie about what they said. It'll make you look even funnier.
QuoteYou know what, if you're too tired to teach your children how to do things better than you did?
FUCK YOU
Your family and your children will get everything that's coming to them.
And I still wholeheartedly believe that. It's one of the only things that's kept the species from getting eaten by predators, only now the only natural predator we have outside of camping in the wilderness is other humans. Teaching your children about what NOT to do should your biggest contribution to their lives.
You deny saying anything like that, call Freeky a liar for saying you did, and then quote yourself saying it to prove you didn't say it? :lulz:
You don't make any sense.
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on August 28, 2012, 05:02:19 PM
I think he's crushing on you, Nigel. :lulz:
Gotta be. :lulz: Or he has a nasty case of the Lumberjim. Which gives me the Lumberjimjams.
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 28, 2012, 04:36:39 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 28, 2012, 04:29:21 PM
I'm only posting about it because TGRR asked me about it. Otherwise I could give a fuck about you.
That totally explains why you follow me all over the board replying to everything I post and repeatedly mentioning that you have me on ignore! I was wondering.
:spittake:
"I'm not talking to you"
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on August 28, 2012, 05:02:19 PM
I think he's crushing on you, Nigel. :lulz:
And he shows off by starting another drug thread. A lot like the kid who goes "HEY SUZY, I CAN EAT WORMS - WATCH ME!" :lulz:
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 28, 2012, 04:36:39 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on August 28, 2012, 04:29:21 PM
I'm only posting about it because TGRR asked me about it. Otherwise I could give a fuck about you.
That totally explains why you follow me all over the board replying to everything I post and repeatedly mentioning that you have me on ignore! I was wondering.
You have an awfully liberal definition of the word "everything" you might want to reign that in before you become a professional in whatever it is you are studying in college. Employers tend to like a little more precision in communication.
Oh. OK THEN.
:enough:
SEE YOU NEXT FALL!
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on August 28, 2012, 07:45:53 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on August 28, 2012, 05:02:19 PM
I think he's crushing on you, Nigel. :lulz:
And he shows off by starting another drug thread. A lot like the kid who goes "HEY SUZY, I CAN EAT WORMS - WATCH ME!" :lulz:
:horrormirth: :horrormirth:
Alty, this:
Quote from: Alty on August 28, 2012, 09:18:32 PM
But it's so much FUN, Roger. And not at all the same conversation.
You know, this happens here all the time. Maybe Discordians are so starved for community (lord knows I am) that we cram ourselves into a tiny server space and wait out the storm, until the humans are finally sorted.
And we've all got cabin fever. You can only drag out the chess pieces for yet another round, slowly placing them with none too little religious fervor and precision, while you silently stare at the other person. You think about wrapping your hands around their neck and think "Soon, it'll be over soon and we can get out of here together."
Two weeks later, and Nigel has already eaten your legs and is keeping you alive with snow water so as to keep the meat fresh.
...is a beautiful piece of writing and worth keeping around. Not only for the last line, although I particularly liked that bit. Also because with a few minor modifications it is gloriously applicable to almost any situation. I insist it be saved and used for future nefarious purposes.
Quote from: A Very Hairy Monkey In An Ill-Fitting Tunic on August 29, 2012, 03:06:15 AM
Alty, this:
Quote from: Alty on August 28, 2012, 09:18:32 PM
But it's so much FUN, Roger. And not at all the same conversation.
You know, this happens here all the time. Maybe Discordians are so starved for community (lord knows I am) that we cram ourselves into a tiny server space and wait out the storm, until the humans are finally sorted.
And we've all got cabin fever. You can only drag out the chess pieces for yet another round, slowly placing them with none too little religious fervor and precision, while you silently stare at the other person. You think about wrapping your hands around their neck and think "Soon, it'll be over soon and we can get out of here together."
Two weeks later, and Nigel has already eaten your legs and is keeping you alive with snow water so as to keep the meat fresh.
...is a beautiful piece of writing and worth keeping around. Not only for the last line, although I particularly liked that bit. Also because with a few minor modifications it is gloriously applicable to almost any situation. I insist it be saved and used for future nefarious purposes.
Dawww, thanks.