Here for your ctrl-5ing pleasure I present:
NEWAGE SCUM.
First up,
Yin Yoga.
I have been reading up on yoga a lot because its a possible career direction and I really like it. It is, however, heavily steeped in hogwash, fuzzy logic, and plain old snake oil. Yin Yoga or Taoist Yin or Taoist Yoga is the first suspect, and with good reason.
LOOK http://pauliezink.com/
Firstly, I've been recently made to understand that teachers or Yogic masters or whatever are not supposed to "perform" for people to entice them into practice. Secondly, LOOK AT THAT SHLUB. Watch as he stakes his claim to putting two words seperated by lands and cultures together in such a hamfisted way it makes me want to puke, in EVERY FUCKING PARAGRAPH, ON EVERY PAGE.
JESUS, what a cockhole.
Anyway...so as far as I can tell, some.of this practice involves ligament and joint work, stretching, a lot of stuff that sounds useful to me, IF I CAN SIFT THROUGH THE BULLSHIT. The other part of "Taoist Yoga Healing" is using the breath to push "life force" to various parts of the body.
Now, this is where your imagination CAN help you. The imagined sensation of "pushing air" to areas of pain will probably induce the same effects as any other carefully executed relaxation technique, possibly more so as it is targeted and the brain is being guides along very carefully.
Are you doing anything metaphysical? Have a seat while you think about that.
:barstool:
Anyway, that guys is a dumbass, but typical for his type. Gotta make that money.
:bob: approved.
How much bullshit is an acceptable amount if it produces a beneficial effect?
None, if any bullshit free alternatives are available.
I look forward to seeing what this kind of stuff looks like without the nonsense.
If it makes anyone feel any better I'm sure we could pay Roger to scream random things for 90 minutes and pass it off as an exercise aid.
(http://pauliezink.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/4x6.jpg)
There's something about the moustache that adds an odd level of self satisfaction here.
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 09, 2013, 06:20:48 PM
I look forward to seeing what this kind of stuff looks like without the nonsense.
If it makes anyone feel any better I'm sure we could pay Roger to scream random things for 90 minutes and pass it off as an exercise aid.
I'm down.
This is coming together nicely.
Alty creates the programme, Roger provides a voiceover and it's presented by Waffles.
I'll take 10%, Thanks.
"Sweating to the Holies™"
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 09, 2013, 06:05:00 PM
How much bullshit is an acceptable amount if it produces a beneficial effect?
It produces the same beneficial effect if you scrap the bullshit and call it what it is, though.
Like how certain poses can build confidence and make you more outgoing and likable not because of letting your chi flow, but because they trigger the brain to produce hormones that relax you and make you more confident and outgoing.
Like how having your titties sucked on isn't pleasurable and relaxing because of a magical psychic bond between mother and child, but because it triggers the brain to release relaxing and pleasurable chemicals into your body.
Knowing the real reason things work doesn't make them stop working, so there's really no reason to cling to the woo.
I am having visions of me screaming into the camera, with a 20 piece chainsaw orchestra in the background.
"YOU AREN'T SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, ARE YOU, YOU BASEMENT-DWELLING PONY-FUCKER?
I'm in. I make a good presenter!
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 09, 2013, 06:43:00 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2013, 06:41:05 PM
"Sweating to the Holies™"
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
I'm gonna wear a sweatband and those 1980s gym shorts. You know the ones.
Easiest 10% I've ever made.
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 09, 2013, 06:49:22 PM
Easiest 10% I've ever made.
Well, not really. I insist that you review the product.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2013, 06:42:43 PM
I am having visions of me screaming into the camera, with a 20 piece chainsaw orchestra in the background.
"YOU AREN'T SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, ARE YOU, YOU BASEMENT-DWELLING PONY-FUCKER?
Save that for part two, where we can teach them how to master the "Reaching Roger" pose. This is something only for the truly serious.
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 09, 2013, 06:51:19 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2013, 06:42:43 PM
I am having visions of me screaming into the camera, with a 20 piece chainsaw orchestra in the background.
"YOU AREN'T SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, ARE YOU, YOU BASEMENT-DWELLING PONY-FUCKER?
Save that for part two, where we can teach them how to master the "Reaching Roger" pose. This is something only for the truly serious.
That needs to go on lesson #2. They can't buy lesson #2 if they do that first.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2013, 06:50:37 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 09, 2013, 06:49:22 PM
Easiest 10% I've ever made.
Well, not really. I insist that you review the product.
Review? I'll implement mass exercise in the yard. Korean prison reform style.
It shall be wonderful.
I think there are whole avenues for exploring and improving the body that are sensible, practical, and really old. Much of the bullshit stems from a lack of understanding, or willingness to understand, the scientific facts of the body and the universe generally.
People get lost in their bodies, lost in ecstasy, lost in stagnation, its easy to lose track of what's happening from the inside.
People have shrouded health in.mysticism for most of recorded history, and probably more so before then. Breath, if you sit in a cave and think about it on too few calories, surrounded by death, disease, famine, can seem pretty fucking.magical. Hell, breath seems magical when you're sitting on a couch, high as shit, held in mystical rapture and first world freedom of time.
There are many positive benefits to these arts, mostly to do with stress reduction. They give you CONTROL over yourself. And when you are sick or in pain all you really want is control. You want to DO something that will make the pain go away, things that place this control.in hour own hands, even potentially, is typically beneficial. Even if the only result, WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO OVERALL HEALTH, is reduced cortisol levels.
But I hate the bullshit so much, so very much. It offends me personally. So I will find what I want, nix the rest, and make fun of these assholes as hard as I can.
Its therapeutic.
We could throw up a little site like this one. I could throw down some newage copy that would be totally at odds with Roger's Rogerness. Like that fake Justin Bieber/Slayer tour article.
Quote from: Alty on May 09, 2013, 07:12:07 PM
We could throw up a little site like this one. I could throw down some newage copy that would be totally at odds with Roger's Rogerness. Like that fake Justin Bieber/Slayer tour article.
Shit yeah.
Hmm.
Auraholes, web guide for Hate Management Enthusiasts.
Fit and Fold, Bending Your Space Time While You Touch Your Toes
The Motherfucking Light Of Mine, Dear God Please Don't Shine It Again.
QuoteWeek One: June 15-21
Early-bird registration deadline – May 20, 2013
Week Two: September 21-27
Early-bird registration deadline – August 26, 2013
Advanced Training for students who have completed sessions 1 & 2 (at either location): TBA
Daily Schedule: 12:00-6:00 pm
PRICING:
$1475 per week session
10% early-bird discount, payment plans are available.
I think I love this guy.
Quote from: Cain on May 09, 2013, 06:08:30 PM
None, if any bullshit free alternatives are available.
I'm just saying, if you can bullshit me into thinking I'm on morphine and I don't have to deal with the morphine withdrawal later, I'll totally accept that flavor of bullshit. Likewise, if you can bullshit me into cleaning my house that's probably going to be more effective than waiting for logic and reason to work.
Master Zink, having just successfully challenged every cow in the pasture, emerging victorious.
(http://pauliezink.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/bio-e1290302740438.jpg)
Having defeated the Bovine grand masters, Master Zink was forced to fight himself for the coveted Montana Cow Flop Grand Championship. Knockout blow pictured below.
(http://pauliezink.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/thirdeye.JPG)
Master Zink, relaxing in Jerusalem in 1990, after killing everyone in the city with his bare hands:
(http://pauliezink.com/images/biography5.jpg)
The placebo effect is very much a part of how many of these things "work". My rule of thumb is, HOW MUCH DOES IT COST? It should not most much, unless you find spending money on NOTHING therapeutic.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2013, 07:18:03 PM
QuoteWeek One: June 15-21
Early-bird registration deadline – May 20, 2013
Week Two: September 21-27
Early-bird registration deadline – August 26, 2013
Advanced Training for students who have completed sessions 1 & 2 (at either location): TBA
Daily Schedule: 12:00-6:00 pm
PRICING:
$1475 per week session
10% early-bird discount, payment plans are available.
I think I love this guy.
That's the industry. They all do that. I could do that if I so desire. I could.make a KILLING if I had the stomach for it. I found out a long time ago that I don't.
Its important to understand that when these things first came to America, and most other places, they were limited to the Jet Set crown, for the most part. People with money. The industry is built upon the bones of rich cancer patients.
ETA: :spittake:
Master Zink and his wife Maria, in front of their palatial home/dojo.
(http://pauliezink.com/images/biographyhomesteadsm.jpg)
Maria, having just used the techniques she learned from Master Zink, defeats Montana.
(http://pauliezink.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/maria-on-bail-21.jpg)
Oh Jesus, everyone in my building can hear me cackling. Can't breathe, Jesus.
Who wants to bet that Master Sink doesn't have much of a sense of humor?
QuoteThat's the industry. They all do that. I could do that if I so desire. I could.make a KILLING if I had the stomach for it. I found out a long time ago that I don't
This kind of this applies to so much shit. I've always said if I ever found myself homeless and completely fucked I'd just find the nearest bars and cold read the shit out of anyone who's there. Rinse and repeat till I'm back on my feet.
I wouldn't feel good about it, but I'd rather not sleep in a box.
EVERYBODY SAY HEY, GIRL!
(http://pauliezink.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/crabs.jpg)
If you see this in real life, YOU'RE ALREADY DEAD.
(http://pauliezink.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/krip10.jpg)
Mrs Smith's "early bird" cheque bounced. So sad. Master Zink hates having to be this way.
(http://pauliezink.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/assist.jpg)
We don't recomment that...WHAT THE FUCK?
(http://pauliezink.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/monkey-king-1.jpg)
Master Zink actually kicks through the Earth's crust.
(http://pauliezink.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/prarie-monkey.jpg)
Some guy on the other side of the globe was killed for that shot.
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 09, 2013, 07:21:05 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 09, 2013, 06:08:30 PM
None, if any bullshit free alternatives are available.
I'm just saying, if you can bullshit me into thinking I'm on morphine and I don't have to deal with the morphine withdrawal later, I'll totally accept that flavor of bullshit. Likewise, if you can bullshit me into cleaning my house that's probably going to be more effective than waiting for logic and reason to work.
What flavors of bullshit are those? You seem to be talking about things that don't actually exist, as opposed to what we were talking about, which is things that do.
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 09, 2013, 07:40:52 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 09, 2013, 07:21:05 PM
Quote from: Cain on May 09, 2013, 06:08:30 PM
None, if any bullshit free alternatives are available.
I'm just saying, if you can bullshit me into thinking I'm on morphine and I don't have to deal with the morphine withdrawal later, I'll totally accept that flavor of bullshit. Likewise, if you can bullshit me into cleaning my house that's probably going to be more effective than waiting for logic and reason to work.
What flavors of bullshit are those? You seem to be talking about things that don't actually exist, as opposed to what we were talking about, which is things that do.
You can taper off a morphine drip to almost nothing and as long as you don't tell the patient the placebo effect will keep the pain under control (in many cases). I had a psychiatrist put me on fish oil for depression and I'm pretty sure the actual pills didn't do shit but my mood improved like crazy within days. Some folks have also used Feng Shui as a way to trick themselves into keeping their house clean (not one that worked for me). I know there's a huge gap between basic placebo lying and full on crazy nutjobbery, I just get defensive because I like my low-grade bullshit. Alty's point about cost is totally right, a placebo should never be that expensive.
You can actually tell people they are taking placebos and the placebo effect will still take place.
The placebo effect isn't bullshit, it's a biological response. Understanding the response doesn't stop it from happening.
You guys are totally gonna pay for upstaging Master Zink.
I WORK OUT!
\
(http://pauliezink.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/krip7.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZtbuj7swPk&feature=player_embedded
Um.
I love this man so much I just grew ovaries.
The placebo effect fascinates me.
An anaesthesiologist I spoke with talked about a study done on the effect using needles.
One group was given injections of medicine, one with a placebo, and one group was on pierced with a dry needle. All groups had at least some positive results
Sorry in don't have a link, anecdotal. She also mention a stud with ipikak (sp?) syrup, which induced vomiting. Patience experiencing chronic naseau were given doses and.told.it would relieve their symptoms. Patients reported relief from nausea with vomit inducing syrup.
SOMETHING happens and whatever it is it is IMPORTANT.
BUT we don't know as much as wed like, and its not okay, IMO, to make strides in capital gains using this darkness in human understanding.
Quote from: Alty on May 09, 2013, 08:02:03 PM
The placebo effect fascinates me.
An anaesthesiologist I spoke with talked about a study done on the effect using needles.
One group was given injections of medicine, one with a placebo, and one group was on pierced with a dry needle. All groups had at least some positive results
Sorry in don't have a link, anecdotal. She also mention a stud with ipikak (sp?) syrup, which induced vomiting. Patience experiencing chronic naseau were given doses and.told.it would relieve their symptoms. Patients reported relief from nausea with vomit inducing syrup.
SOMETHING happens and whatever it is it is IMPORTANT.
BUT we don't know as much as wed like, and its not okay, IMO, to make strides in capital gains using this darkness in human understanding.
ARE YOU THREATENING ME?
\
(http://pauliezink.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/pheonixcom.JPG)
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2013, 07:59:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZtbuj7swPk&feature=player_embedded
Um.
I love this man so much I just grew ovaries.
Sheeeeeit. I know where my next $1300 are going.
Gimmie the magic!
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2013, 08:02:49 PM
Quote from: Alty on May 09, 2013, 08:02:03 PM
The placebo effect fascinates me.
An anaesthesiologist I spoke with talked about a study done on the effect using needles.
One group was given injections of medicine, one with a placebo, and one group was on pierced with a dry needle. All groups had at least some positive results
Sorry in don't have a link, anecdotal. She also mention a stud with ipikak (sp?) syrup, which induced vomiting. Patience experiencing chronic naseau were given doses and.told.it would relieve their symptoms. Patients reported relief from nausea with vomit inducing syrup.
SOMETHING happens and whatever it is it is IMPORTANT.
BUT we don't know as much as wed like, and its not okay, IMO, to make strides in capital gains using this darkness in human understanding.
ARE YOU THREATENING ME?
\
(http://pauliezink.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/pheonixcom.JPG)
:scared:
There are many anectodes out there, a whole fuckton many, about people who healed themselves with this discipline or that discipline, "cured" their cancer, or stopped chronic fatigue syndrome or pretty much any illness you can think of.
Many more people just die.
But it still fascinates me. I'll have to do a whole post on Dan Milman and Way of the Peaceful Warrior. Oh what fun we'll all have.
If half the stories these people who charge too much damned money tell are true, there certainly is something in pursuing these thoughts, PROVIDED, they lead to practical application.
Yoga, for example, is simply worthless if you do not take the time to practice. And even a small, internal exercise done daily can have a profound impact on your life. And its YOUR job to do the practicing.
Guru, I think, means "one who points". In what direction? From what perspective? To what end?
What gets me about the new age philosophy isn't so much the filling in the gaps with bullshit. People who are big fans of science and even many who study it will grossly exaggerate the known and wildly under-represent the unknown. It's extremely difficult not to. Our brains don't grasp probabilities or degrees of confidence very well. If we really were concerned about being scientifically accurate about everything we'd never stop clarifying even a single expression. We'd all get sucked into a black hole of ignorance and uncertainty.
What bothers me is this perverse concept of "peacefulness". The belief that being calm and unemotional in the face of a system that was built and still runs on depravity is somehow spiritual or good is obscene. That "peacefulness" is some people's highest goal in life is utterly disgusting to me.
Getting angry is like a preemptive war, man.
\
:hippie:
/
Dude, srsly, that's how wars start—negativism.
Quote from: Alty on May 09, 2013, 08:02:03 PM
The placebo effect fascinates me.
An anaesthesiologist I spoke with talked about a study done on the effect using needles.
One group was given injections of medicine, one with a placebo, and one group was on pierced with a dry needle. All groups had at least some positive results
Sorry in don't have a link, anecdotal. She also mention a stud with ipikak (sp?) syrup, which induced vomiting. Patience experiencing chronic naseau were given doses and.told.it would relieve their symptoms. Patients reported relief from nausea with vomit inducing syrup.
SOMETHING happens and whatever it is it is IMPORTANT.
BUT we don't know as much as wed like, and its not okay, IMO, to make strides in capital gains using this darkness in human understanding.
Yeah, I really wish there was more good science on placebo (and nocebo), but nobody ever wants to fund research on it :(
The problem (I think) with exploiting the placebo effect is that it's based on misdirection and deception which raises ethical issues. Is it right to give people not-painkillers and charge them for painkillers? And how do you advertise it?
"Would you like morpine or tapwater and a cock and bull story while we saw your leg off?"
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 09, 2013, 10:11:54 PM
The problem (I think) with exploiting the placebo effect is that it's based on misdirection and deception which raises ethical issues. Is it right to give people not-painkillers and charge them for painkillers? And how do you advertise it?
"Would you like morpine or tapwater and a cock and bull story while we saw your leg off?"
The crazy thing is that it might not be. Hypnosis totally works, and I wouldn't characterize it as deception. You're fully aware that you're being hypnotized, but when the hypnotist tells you you're becoming very hot, you physically sweat more.
I know I've seen at least one study on the placebo effect where X treatment + a placebo that the patient was told was a placebo vs. X treatment that showed statistically significant benefit for the placebo.
There's different levels of belief, and the endocrine system doesn't operate at the same level as intentional thought. Certain kinds of Christians might truly honestly believe that they have an immortal soul and a guaranteed place in Heaven... but they still do the whole drowning panic response thing if you baptize them too hard. Afterwards, they'll thank the people holding them underwater and apologize if their body, seconds ago engaged in a life and death struggle for oxygen, injured one of them. S&M still works - works best according to the people who practice it - when there's a strong bond of love and trust between the top and bottom. Knowing that his partner won't actually murder him doesn't prevent a fear response / stimulation when the top pulls out a knife. It's apparently as arousing as all get out.
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 09, 2013, 06:22:41 PM
(http://pauliezink.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/4x6.jpg)
There's something about the moustache that adds an odd level of self satisfaction here.
The WOMP potential for this is STAGGERING. :lulz:
Quote from: Golden Applesauce on May 09, 2013, 10:49:49 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 09, 2013, 10:11:54 PM
The problem (I think) with exploiting the placebo effect is that it's based on misdirection and deception which raises ethical issues. Is it right to give people not-painkillers and charge them for painkillers? And how do you advertise it?
"Would you like morpine or tapwater and a cock and bull story while we saw your leg off?"
The crazy thing is that it might not be. Hypnosis totally works, and I wouldn't characterize it as deception. You're fully aware that you're being hypnotized, but when the hypnotist tells you you're becoming very hot, you physically sweat more.
I know I've seen at least one study on the placebo effect where X treatment + a placebo that the patient was told was a placebo vs. X treatment that showed statistically significant benefit for the placebo.
There's different levels of belief, and the endocrine system doesn't operate at the same level as intentional thought. Certain kinds of Christians might truly honestly believe that they have an immortal soul and a guaranteed place in Heaven... but they still do the whole drowning panic response thing if you baptize them too hard. Afterwards, they'll thank the people holding them underwater and apologize if their body, seconds ago engaged in a life and death struggle for oxygen, injured one of them. S&M still works - works best according to the people who practice it - when there's a strong bond of love and trust between the top and bottom. Knowing that his partner won't actually murder him doesn't prevent a fear response / stimulation when the top pulls out a knife. It's apparently as arousing as all get out.
Made me lol out loud :lulz: "Why are you holding your breath and freaking out?", "I was baptised too hard as a child"
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on May 09, 2013, 07:59:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZtbuj7swPk&feature=player_embedded
Um.
I love this man so much I just grew ovaries.
:aaa::1fap:
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 09, 2013, 06:42:32 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 09, 2013, 06:05:00 PM
How much bullshit is an acceptable amount if it produces a beneficial effect?
It produces the same beneficial effect if you scrap the bullshit and call it what it is, though.
Like how certain poses can build confidence and make you more outgoing and likable not because of letting your chi flow, but because they trigger the brain to produce hormones that relax you and make you more confident and outgoing.
Like how having your titties sucked on isn't pleasurable and relaxing because of a magical psychic bond between mother and child, but because it triggers the brain to release relaxing and pleasurable chemicals into your body.
Knowing the real reason things work doesn't make them stop working, so there's really no reason to cling to the woo.
Well, it seems I've found my next line of
business personal developmet and wellness clinics.
A bunch of people standing around, sucking on each other's titties.
That sounds doomed to terrible success.
I wish you well.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on May 10, 2013, 02:41:49 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on May 09, 2013, 06:42:32 PM
Quote from: Queen Gogira Pennyworth, BSW on May 09, 2013, 06:05:00 PM
How much bullshit is an acceptable amount if it produces a beneficial effect?
It produces the same beneficial effect if you scrap the bullshit and call it what it is, though.
Like how certain poses can build confidence and make you more outgoing and likable not because of letting your chi flow, but because they trigger the brain to produce hormones that relax you and make you more confident and outgoing.
Like how having your titties sucked on isn't pleasurable and relaxing because of a magical psychic bond between mother and child, but because it triggers the brain to release relaxing and pleasurable chemicals into your body.
Knowing the real reason things work doesn't make them stop working, so there's really no reason to cling to the woo.
Well, it seems I've found my next line of business personal developmet and wellness clinics.
A bunch of people standing around, sucking on each other's titties.
I VOTE YES.
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 09, 2013, 06:20:48 PM
I look forward to seeing what this kind of stuff looks like without the nonsense.
If it makes anyone feel any better I'm sure we could pay Roger to scream random things for 90 minutes and pass it off as an exercise aid.
I found this new-age relaxation mp3 similarly helpful:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e59guruVL4o
:aaa: :aaa: :aaa: :aaa: :aaa:
Quote from: GrannySmith on May 11, 2013, 01:55:39 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on May 09, 2013, 06:20:48 PM
I look forward to seeing what this kind of stuff looks like without the nonsense.
If it makes anyone feel any better I'm sure we could pay Roger to scream random things for 90 minutes and pass it off as an exercise aid.
I found this new-age relaxation mp3 similarly helpful:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e59guruVL4o
:aaa: :aaa: :aaa: :aaa: :aaa:
That is delightful. :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
(http://i.imgur.com/nf6wOfH.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/lLBaY5W.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Kn0Wtlj.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Oja0wi9.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/pB6Bo7y.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/sFesRp6.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/bKfxyHn.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/n1WWJWf.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/EknJAul.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qZhV4Cs.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ltdDtT4.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/udzti3h.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/sW9DwYD.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/MpsUtFr.jpg)
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
This one is my favorite:
(http://i.imgur.com/udzti3h.jpg)
:lol: I'd love to have some fortune cookies with these inside! :D
Those were great! All I could think of was "WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?" and "I GOT YOUR DARK MATTER RIGHT HERE"
The first one because of, you know, woo and "spiritualism", and the second because of science being guilty of filling gaps with bullshit.
Both require too much explaining. :sad:
Yoinking every last one of those. :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: Emo Howard on May 12, 2013, 10:55:42 AM
Those were great! All I could think of was "WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?" and "I GOT YOUR DARK MATTER RIGHT HERE"
The first one because of, you know, woo and "spiritualism", and the second because of science being guilty of filling gaps with bullshit.
Both require too much explaining. :sad:
No. No, they don't. They're AWESOME.
Quote from: stelz on May 12, 2013, 03:22:37 PM
Yoinking every last one of those. :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: Emo Howard on May 12, 2013, 10:55:42 AM
Those were great! All I could think of was "WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?" and "I GOT YOUR DARK MATTER RIGHT HERE"
The first one because of, you know, woo and "spiritualism", and the second because of science being guilty of filling gaps with bullshit.
Both require too much explaining. :sad:
No. No, they don't. They're AWESOME.
Thanks. I've been having a hard time telling my smart thoughts from my dumb thoughts lately.
Quote from: Emo Howard on May 14, 2013, 09:36:16 AM
Quote from: stelz on May 12, 2013, 03:22:37 PM
Yoinking every last one of those. :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: Emo Howard on May 12, 2013, 10:55:42 AM
Those were great! All I could think of was "WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?" and "I GOT YOUR DARK MATTER RIGHT HERE"
The first one because of, you know, woo and "spiritualism", and the second because of science being guilty of filling gaps with bullshit.
Both require too much explaining. :sad:
No. No, they don't. They're AWESOME.
Thanks. I've been having a hard time telling my smart thoughts from my dumb thoughts lately.
Holy shit! Story of my LIFE!
:lol:
I put those on facebook and annotated them "Hats off to Burns" and Lizzieloo said "THAT'S BURNS?" :lol:
Had to put a disclaimer on it.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.608587389174968.1073741828.100000711379269&type=3
God. I WISH that was me.
http://www.crystallighttherapy.com/instructors.html
QuotePatricia Jean Edge-Huff, of Cherokee heritage, was raised in Arkansas, a state known for having high frequency quartz crystal. A pioneer in the field of holistic crystal healing since 1980, her early training included music, massage, reflexology, Reiki, and meditation.
QuotePatricia Jean Edge-Huff, of Cherokee heritage
QuotePatricia Jean Edge-Huff, of Cherokee heritage
(http://i.imgur.com/ERcRxSq.jpg)
guise, I think we may be dealing with a real live loominatus here...
(http://i.imgur.com/gtRaw9D.png)
Quote from: Alty on May 09, 2013, 05:40:55 PM
Here for your ctrl-5ing pleasure I present:
NEWAGE SCUM.
First up,
Yin Yoga.
I have been reading up on yoga a lot because its a possible career direction and I really like it. It is, however, heavily steeped in hogwash, fuzzy logic, and plain old snake oil. Yin Yoga or Taoist Yin or Taoist Yoga is the first suspect, and with good reason.
LOOK http://pauliezink.com/
Firstly, I've been recently made to understand that teachers or Yogic masters or whatever are not supposed to "perform" for people to entice them into practice. Secondly, LOOK AT THAT SHLUB. Watch as he stakes his claim to putting two words seperated by lands and cultures together in such a hamfisted way it makes me want to puke, in EVERY FUCKING PARAGRAPH, ON EVERY PAGE.
JESUS, what a cockhole.
Anyway...so as far as I can tell, some.of this practice involves ligament and joint work, stretching, a lot of stuff that sounds useful to me, IF I CAN SIFT THROUGH THE BULLSHIT. The other part of "Taoist Yoga Healing" is using the breath to push "life force" to various parts of the body.
Now, this is where your imagination CAN help you. The imagined sensation of "pushing air" to areas of pain will probably induce the same effects as any other carefully executed relaxation technique, possibly more so as it is targeted and the brain is being guides along very carefully.
Are you doing anything metaphysical? Have a seat while you think about that.
:barstool:
Anyway, that guys is a dumbass, but typical for his type. Gotta make that money.
Taoist /Yoga/? I mean, yes, Taoist Chi Gung and Nei Gung are both legitimate "energy work" from China (at least in the historical sense), but Yin Yoga? This guy is making shit up. Furthermore, from what I understand about those legitimate "chi practices" is that you never ever force anything. Rather, the breath is used to gently "dissolve blockages" without causing damage. And you never keep going when there is pain.
ETA: And by "you", I mean, "anyone who would try this stuff as more than a dilettante".
I have seen Yin yoga or Taoist yoga in a book published in 77 by a very reasonable person who only made a refererence to it himself, didn't expound on it.
After looking for awhile it seems people use those terms interchangeably.
However, I have seen a few yin yoga resources that imply a focus on those.poses which stretch connective tissue specifically. This is done during the morning when the body isn't warmed up yet to ensure a pull on the tendon and not on the muscle.
As there is no central authority here I suspect these stupid misappropriations will worsen over time.
Quote from: Alty on September 25, 2013, 10:57:25 PM
I have seen Yin yoga or Taoist yoga in a book published in 77 by a very reasonable person who only made a refererence to it himself, didn't expound on it.
After looking for awhile it seems people use those terms interchangeably.
However, I have seen a few yin yoga resources that imply a focus on those.poses which stretch connective tissue specifically. This is done during the morning when the body isn't warmed up yet to ensure a pull on the tendon and not on the muscle.
As there is no central authority here I suspect these stupid misappropriations will worsen over time.
Almost all of those poses are completely against everything I know of Taoist Chi Gung and martial arts (T'ai Chi Ch'uan, Ba Gua, Hsing-i). They're unnatural, and consist of /pushing/ into a stretch. Chi Gung et al. works from natural movements and relaxes tissues to slowly stretch them over time. Frankly, so much of what I see on that site looks dangerous to the average person. I mean, if you're already a contortionist, sure, but otherwise trying it is going to cause damage. While I am apprehensive in general about Hatha Yoga, none of the regularly used poses are unnatural movements.
In other words, I would trust a damn thing he is selling.
It certainly seems incredibly stupid to fuck with cartilage and tendon in such a way. That shit doesn't just snap back into place once it's been warped.
I hope to find many of these scumbags, but that guy is special.
Did you watch the video, ITT?
A showman. There's a reason you're not supposed to show off. Because it has nothing to do with health.
Quote from: Alty on September 25, 2013, 09:07:25 PM
http://www.crystallighttherapy.com/instructors.html
QuotePatricia Jean Edge-Huff, of Cherokee heritage, was raised in Arkansas, a state known for having high frequency quartz crystal. A pioneer in the field of holistic crystal healing since 1980, her early training included music, massage, reflexology, Reiki, and meditation.
QuotePatricia Jean Edge-Huff, of Cherokee heritage
QuotePatricia Jean Edge-Huff, of Cherokee heritage
(http://i.imgur.com/ERcRxSq.jpg)
:lulz: :lulz: :horrormirth:
Not to judge a person based on her appearance, but I can't help judging a CRYSTAL-HEALING CLAIMS-TO-BE-PART-CHEROKEE blue-eyed blonde on her appearance.
Quote from: Alty on September 26, 2013, 12:13:45 AM
It certainly seems incredibly stupid to fuck with cartilage and tendon in such a way. That shit doesn't just snap back into place once it's been warped.
I hope to find many of these scumbags, but that guy is special.
Did you watch the video, ITT?
A showman. There's a reason you're not supposed to show off. Because it has nothing to do with health.
Things learned in this thread #1: if someone is showing off, you don't want what they're selling.
Quote from: Kai on September 26, 2013, 01:13:45 AM
Quote from: Alty on September 26, 2013, 12:13:45 AM
It certainly seems incredibly stupid to fuck with cartilage and tendon in such a way. That shit doesn't just snap back into place once it's been warped.
I hope to find many of these scumbags, but that guy is special.
Did you watch the video, ITT?
A showman. There's a reason you're not supposed to show off. Because it has nothing to do with health.
Things learned in this thread #1: if someone is showing off, you don't want what they're selling.
What do you mean? I see tele-vangelists curing death-bed people all the time!
Wait. Cherokee had some kind of tradition involving crystals?
:cn:
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 26, 2013, 02:27:54 AM
Wait. Cherokee had some kind of tradition involving crystals?
:cn:
In high frequency quarts Arkansas.
It is a good thing all that protective crystal energy favored the white man! And those with Cherokee heritage.
Quote from: Dirty Old Uncle Roger on September 26, 2013, 02:27:54 AM
Wait. Cherokee had some kind of tradition involving crystals?
:cn:
Yes, the Wanabe lineage of the Hawn Kee band.
http://pranichealing.com/what-pranic-healing
I'd like to pick these apart more, but for now, I have no words.
Except, Jesus, these people.make paleo people look like...well then again, maybe not.
QuoteOriginally published in 1987 as The Ancient Science and Art of Pranic Healing, Master Choa conceptualized a fresh and far deeper understanding of energy healing, using the readily available source of all life - Prana, called Pranic Energy or Vital Life Force.
Quote from: Alty on October 31, 2013, 02:30:19 AM
http://pranichealing.com/what-pranic-healing
I'd like to pick these apart more, but for now, I have no words.
Except, Jesus, these people.make paleo people look like...well then again, maybe not.
QuoteOriginally published in 1987 as The Ancient Science and Art of Pranic Healing, Master Choa conceptualized a fresh and far deeper understanding of energy healing, using the readily available source of all life - Prana, called Pranic Energy or Vital Life Force.
:lulz: I WANT TO BELIEVE.
Oooh, it's ANCIENT, and also words in SANSKRIT. That means it really works!
QuotePranic healers have specific guidelines around how to modify the use of energy on specific clients (young, elderly, frail), have parts of the body they cannot work on (eyes, front heart chakra), and are deadly serious about etheric hygiene (properly handling diseased energy, cutting healer/client cords) as there could be ramifications for both healer and client.
hxxp://www.threecupsoftao.com/difference-between-reiki-and-pranic-healing/
If I could just get over it and set myself up like one of these guys, I'd have it made.
Yeah, but you'd feel dirty.
Bbbbut I could clean myself with MONEY!11!1!1!
Seriously though, Im trying to work out a secular, rational, placebo like, thingy that doesn't sound stupid Something happens to people, in the brain, I think, during this kind of "work".
I've had very rationap people give me feedback that's just weird and I've experienced some weird things.
Not magic, but weird, and I assume in my brain.
I think that, for example, chakras are just pinpoints the brain easily identifies and works with at some level, even if just as a map. Just an idea, possibly a useful one.
Sooooo many lol.
Magical wizard self defense guru gets put to the test, and fails gloriously.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-Jf-kGyesc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Thanks Hoopla!
Currently picking relfexology apart for fun and (hopefully) profit.
BEHOLD:
http://www.reflexology-usa.org/assets/Piquemal_Interview.pdf
QuoteEnergy explains things with the new logic of physics not through chemistry, the
foundation of biology upon which conventional medicine is based.
This man, I shit you not, is a doctor.
OMG, I was thinking about offering Reflexology at my business. It's just about the best and most detailed kind of foot massage you can get and plenty of people look for it.
But I just can't. I am too embarrassed. After spending the last hour or so researching the industry, the history, and the experts in the field I can safely say there are few quack practices that quack quite so loudly while still maintaining some semblance of rationality, so called.
Idiots. IDIOTS.
It's too bad, really. I haven't had any reflexology work done, so can't comment much about it, but from what you said, it sounds like it does have something to it that works on an actual, physical level. Sounds like a good basis for a practice.
But then you've got to add all the "woo" to make it seem better? more exotic? magical?
So then you end up putting off people (potential customers, landlords, etc.) who don't want to deal/associate with the woo, and the ones that are attracted end up with some sort of false hope/expectations. I know it's not that cut and dry, but maybe the general idea?
It's why we can't have nice things. Someone's always got to paint unicorns and sprinkle fairy dust on it.
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 02:51:57 AM
OMG, I was thinking about offering Reflexology at my business. It's just about the best and most detailed kind of foot massage you can get and plenty of people look for it.
But I just can't. I am too embarrassed. After spending the last hour or so researching the industry, the history, and the experts in the field I can safely say there are few quack practices that quack quite so loudly while still maintaining some semblance of rationality, so called.
Idiots. IDIOTS.
There's got to be a way to get Alty paid to go undercover with these people and do some kind of expose documentary.
If you could keep a straight face for long enough that is.
Quote from: trippinprincezz13 on February 25, 2014, 03:52:09 PM
It's too bad, really. I haven't had any reflexology work done, so can't comment much about it, but from what you said, it sounds like it does have something to it that works on an actual, physical level. Sounds like a good basis for a practice.
But then you've got to add all the "woo" to make it seem better? more exotic? magical?
So then you end up putting off people (potential customers, landlords, etc.) who don't want to deal/associate with the woo, and the ones that are attracted end up with some sort of false hope/expectations. I know it's not that cut and dry, but maybe the general idea?
It's why we can't have nice things. Someone's always got to paint unicorns and sprinkle fairy dust on it.
Well, here's the thing about this practice:
(BTW I am writing up a full history and expose of sorts on this subject, this is just a quick and dirty version. I will post links here when the content is up on my new site)
Reflexology was created by two people in the 1930's. Originally it was called Zone Therapy, created by Dr. William Fitzgerald, an Ear, Nose, and Throat specialist. He, all by his little lonesome, came to the conclusion, based off the work of neurologist Sir Henry Head (who discovered how nerves run through the body?). Dr. Fitzgerald would place rubber bands and clothes pins on areas of the feet in an effort to induce an anesthesia effect elsewhere in the body. He separated the feet into different "zones", with each foot being one half of the body, and then further separated horizontally for the main body sections, head and neck, and the area above the diaphragm and below. He laid five vertical lines. This was meant to give a rough map of how to affect a numbing effect.
THEN a physical therapist who worked under Dr. Fitzgerald, Eunice Ingham, all by her little lonesome, drew up a map with the various spots on the feet corresponding to specific organs, and claimed that this could heal all sorts of diseases.
THAT IS IT.
The entire notion of reflexology comes from a couple health professionals fucking around and drawing pictures which SEEM to make sense.
That is not enough for the basis of any practice. There is not one lick of evidence that suggests that pressing on these reflex points, so called, by random quacks, does anything that any details foot massage won't do.
I have scoured the internet for evidence, research, FACTS, and there is NOTHING. All the studies available fail, fail, fail. None of them have proper controls, none of them show anything that suggest reflexology is nothing more than a detailed foot massage. There are benefits, yes, such as any detailed massage may offer.
Perhaps moreso than other parts of the body due to the focus on nerve endings. Perhaps moreso because of the heavy detail. Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps. Nobody knows because there is no science, none. And in every instance there is an attempt at science it does not show conclusively that this method does anything to treat any disease.
QUACK QUACK QUACK.
Now, that said, I give a mighty mean foot massage.
I'm the foot fucking master.
And that's thanks to reflexology. But that is all it is good for.
So I refuse to call what I do by that name, there is no logos to be found.
As I said, I will be writing this all in more detail. I will show the "studies" out there for what they are, as well as the organizations that tout them.
They are gonna feel the pain, oh yes.
Damn, I think this thread has more views than all my other threads combined.
:fnord:
Guess I'll be using the phrase "newage sewage scum" a lot in my SEO techniques.
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 06:40:23 PM
Now, that said, I give a mighty mean foot massage.
I'm the foot fucking master.
You keep this up, I'm gonna start calling you Vincent.
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on February 25, 2014, 06:57:15 PM
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 06:40:23 PM
Now, that said, I give a mighty mean foot massage.
I'm the foot fucking master.
You keep this up, I'm gonna start calling you Vincent.
I try to channel him very time I go to work.
Bring your gun with you when you take a shit.
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 02:16:09 AM
Currently picking relfexology apart for fun and (hopefully) profit.
BEHOLD:
http://www.reflexology-usa.org/assets/Piquemal_Interview.pdf
QuoteEnergy explains things with the new logic of physics not through chemistry, the
foundation of biology upon which conventional medicine is based.
This man, I shit you not, is a doctor.
:lol: Doctor of
what, though?
Alty, my one regret of your visit is not asking you for a massage. No homo, man, I just want to take off my clothes and have you touch me hard all over.
Quote from: Nigel on February 26, 2014, 01:54:45 AM
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 02:16:09 AM
Currently picking relfexology apart for fun and (hopefully) profit.
BEHOLD:
http://www.reflexology-usa.org/assets/Piquemal_Interview.pdf
QuoteEnergy explains things with the new logic of physics not through chemistry, the
foundation of biology upon which conventional medicine is based.
This man, I shit you not, is a doctor.
:lol: Doctor of what, though?
Solutions, clearly.
Quote from: Pæs on February 26, 2014, 02:00:41 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 26, 2014, 01:54:45 AM
Quote from: Alty on February 25, 2014, 02:16:09 AM
Currently picking relfexology apart for fun and (hopefully) profit.
BEHOLD:
http://www.reflexology-usa.org/assets/Piquemal_Interview.pdf
QuoteEnergy explains things with the new logic of physics not through chemistry, the
foundation of biology upon which conventional medicine is based.
This man, I shit you not, is a doctor.
:lol: Doctor of what, though?
Solutions, clearly.
:lol:
SOLUTIONS: PROTECTING OUR ASSETS SINCE 1972
I feel your pain, Alty. Because of quantum alignment and stuff,
But also because I know exactly what you mean with regards to the incentives to sell out. It's easier, involves less time and work and usually profitable. And it definitely pays more, and seems to get you more exposure. And all it costs is your dignity.
I mean, I could, in my position, writing glowing articles about the former desposed President of Ukraine. Or his replacements. There are not-inconsiderable financial benfits to doing either. Going full neocon or towing some kind of party line comes with a LOT of benefits, if you're willing to bend the truth, omit and distort.
But then again, so long as you're managing to pay your bills, it does feel good to be able to look yourself in the eye whenever you catch your reflection.