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Principia Discordia => Apple Talk => Topic started by: Golden Applesauce on June 12, 2012, 05:12:30 am

Title: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Golden Applesauce on June 12, 2012, 05:12:30 am
It has come to my attention that there has been much ARGUING and POINTLESS WHINGING this past few weeks or so.  There has even been COMPLAINING ABOUT COMPLAINING and EXTRANEOUS DRAMA.

None of this bothers me, except in that I haven't been included in it! A more sane person might simply jump into a running argument, but that wouldn't get me the attention my ego requires. I must create my own thread!

Here's how this works:
1. You post the best opinions you can come up with.
2. I argue my pimply face off in your general direction.

You get an 18 hour head start from the time of this posting.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Eris_Antikensammlung_Berlin_F1775.jpg)

RUN
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Salty on June 12, 2012, 05:22:17 am
Oooh!

It is my opinion that Justin Bieber and his like are the clearest and most pure form of evil on the planet. Not due to the quality of his music, which, I suppose, is a mater of taste. He is the face of evil because while actual terrible things are happening in the world, and the quality and quantity of investigative journalism dwindles, and the populace demands media to soothe their 1st world woes they are listening to, and thinking about, and talking about, and looking at, and hearing casually of, and fapping to Justin Fucking Bieber.

He, to me, is the symbol of what's most wrong about humanity. Not because it's worse than rape or genital mutilation, but because it erases those those things from people's minds so efficiently, these minds being the only ones who can actually help to put an end to those things. At the very least they are wasting water on SOMETHING made out of corn to shove into their faces in a myriad of ways and watching HIM instead of doing ANYTHING to help ANYONE ever.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on June 12, 2012, 06:04:26 am
Hey, you changed your avatar! Granted it was to another anime character, but it's progress.

I recommend that you choose Balky Bartokomous for your next avatar.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: The Johnny on June 12, 2012, 07:55:37 am

As a rhetorical exersice to out-argue the other side or actual real positionings and ideas?
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: LMNO on June 12, 2012, 12:49:46 pm
1. You post the best opinions you can come up with.

I believe force equals mass times acceleration.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 12, 2012, 01:41:08 pm
The world was wrecked the moment Kaiser Wilhelm I fired Otto Von Bismark.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: LMNO on June 12, 2012, 01:42:46 pm
Roger does not have mind Lazors.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Forsooth on June 12, 2012, 01:59:02 pm
Roger does not have mind Lazors.

its the possibility of someone like him could have mind Lazors that frightens us all so much

Unrelated: why do most people voice their concerns when they catch me talking to myself?
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: EK WAFFLR on June 12, 2012, 02:01:53 pm
Norway isn't part of Belgium.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: kingyak on June 12, 2012, 04:26:52 pm
Magnets: Not really that complicated.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: tyrannosaurus vex on June 12, 2012, 04:44:22 pm
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: EK WAFFLR on June 12, 2012, 04:58:35 pm
“America ... has created a 'civilization' that represents an exact contradiction of the ancient European tradition. It has introduced the religion of praxis and productivity; it has put the quest for profit, great industrial production, and mechanical, visible, and quantitative achievements over any other interest. It has generated a soulless greatness of a purely technological and collective nature, lacking any background of transcendence, inner light, and true spirituality. America has [built a society where] man becomes a mere instrument of production and material productivity within a conformist social conglomerate”
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 12, 2012, 04:59:48 pm
“America ... has created a 'civilization' that represents an exact contradiction of the ancient European tradition. It has introduced the religion of praxis and productivity; it has put the quest for profit, great industrial production, and mechanical, visible, and quantitative achievements over any other interest. It has generated a soulless greatness of a purely technological and collective nature, lacking any background of transcendence, inner light, and true spirituality. America has [built a society where] man becomes a mere instrument of production and material productivity within a conformist social conglomerate”


...

I got nothin'.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 12, 2012, 05:21:25 pm
“America ... has created a 'civilization' that represents an exact contradiction of the ancient European tradition. It has introduced the religion of praxis and productivity; it has put the quest for profit, great industrial production, and mechanical, visible, and quantitative achievements over any other interest. It has generated a soulless greatness of a purely technological and collective nature, lacking any background of transcendence, inner light, and true spirituality. America has [built a society where] man becomes a mere instrument of production and material productivity within a conformist social conglomerate”

...

I got nothin'.

Europe seems more evolved to me. There's a lot fucked up over there but at least they have job benefits, good public transportation and enough realism to tolerate at least some vices. I think of America as a case of arrested development stuck at the draconian, puritanical shit stages that got imported over here a few hundred years ago.

Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on June 12, 2012, 05:35:38 pm
Oooh!

It is my opinion that Justin Bieber and his like are the clearest and most pure form of evil on the planet. Not due to the quality of his music, which, I suppose, is a mater of taste. He is the face of evil because while actual terrible things are happening in the world, and the quality and quantity of investigative journalism dwindles, and the populace demands media to soothe their 1st world woes they are listening to, and thinking about, and talking about, and looking at, and hearing casually of, and fapping to Justin Fucking Bieber.

He, to me, is the symbol of what's most wrong about humanity. Not because it's worse than rape or genital mutilation, but because it erases those those things from people's minds so efficiently, these minds being the only ones who can actually help to put an end to those things. At the very least they are wasting water on SOMETHING made out of corn to shove into their faces in a myriad of ways and watching HIM instead of doing ANYTHING to help ANYONE ever.

Where have I seen this cop before....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXSbRuo3CAo&feature=player_detailpage#t=31s
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 12, 2012, 05:37:00 pm
“America ... has created a 'civilization' that represents an exact contradiction of the ancient European tradition. It has introduced the religion of praxis and productivity; it has put the quest for profit, great industrial production, and mechanical, visible, and quantitative achievements over any other interest. It has generated a soulless greatness of a purely technological and collective nature, lacking any background of transcendence, inner light, and true spirituality. America has [built a society where] man becomes a mere instrument of production and material productivity within a conformist social conglomerate”

...

I got nothin'.

Europe seems more evolved to me. There's a lot fucked up over there but at least they have job benefits, good public transportation and enough realism to tolerate at least some vices. I think of America as a case of arrested development stuck at the draconian, puritanical shit stages that got imported over here a few hundred years ago.

Hence my argument that the British actually won the American revolution.

"Here's 200 years worth of religious nutbags.  Oops, gotta go."
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: East Coast Hustle on June 12, 2012, 05:39:56 pm
Store-bought mayonnaise: not actually food. Rather, some unholy combination of industrial lubricant and titanium dioxide.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: ñͤͣ̄ͦ̌̑͗͊͛͂͗ ̸̨̨̣̺̼̣̜͙͈͕̮̊̈́̈͂͛̽͊ͭ̓͆ͅé ̰̓̓́ͯ́́͞ on June 12, 2012, 05:42:46 pm
You are right in your argument against my argument.

:hammer:
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 12, 2012, 05:45:09 pm
“America ... has created a 'civilization' that represents an exact contradiction of the ancient European tradition. It has introduced the religion of praxis and productivity; it has put the quest for profit, great industrial production, and mechanical, visible, and quantitative achievements over any other interest. It has generated a soulless greatness of a purely technological and collective nature, lacking any background of transcendence, inner light, and true spirituality. America has [built a society where] man becomes a mere instrument of production and material productivity within a conformist social conglomerate”

...

I got nothin'.

Europe seems more evolved to me. There's a lot fucked up over there but at least they have job benefits, good public transportation and enough realism to tolerate at least some vices. I think of America as a case of arrested development stuck at the draconian, puritanical shit stages that got imported over here a few hundred years ago.

Hence my argument that the British actually won the American revolution.

"Here's 200 years worth of religious nutbags.  Oops, gotta go."

 :horrormirth: :horrormirth: :horrormirth: :horrormirth: :horrormirth: :horrormirth: :horrormirth:
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Forsooth on June 12, 2012, 07:31:17 pm
Opinion: Except in very specific circumstances, mixing two foods together that one already likes should result in some thing at least equally as tasty, if not greater.

Sample exceptions: mixing a hot food and a cold food; old/expired foods; etc.

Examples: hushpuppies and salsa; chocolate milk and cereal; combining Coca-Cola and Pepsi; etc.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: EK WAFFLR on June 12, 2012, 07:40:28 pm
Despite the importance of oil, Norway's primary export is actually the "ø". The "ø" was developed by Norwegian scientists in the early 1800s only to be used in emergencies. After the Cold War however, the "ø" was finally released and available for worldwide sale. An "ø" on eBay is likely to cost an estimated $ 12.99 (transportation not included), while a custom made "ø" like the ones used by Stephen Colbert in the Wørd and several Colbertwood facilities cost anywhere from $ 100,000 up to $ 5,000,000. Approximately 68 percent of Norway's GNP stems from this export.
Critics have pointed out that also Denmark uses the "ø". These people are communists.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 12, 2012, 07:46:45 pm
1. You post the best opinions you can come up with.

I believe force equals mass times acceleration.

 :trolling:
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 12, 2012, 07:47:19 pm
Opinion: Except in very specific circumstances, mixing two foods together that one already likes should result in some thing at least equally as tasty, if not greater.

Sample exceptions: mixing a hot food and a cold food; old/expired foods; etc.

Examples: hushpuppies and salsa; chocolate milk and cereal; combining Coca-Cola and Pepsi; etc.

OMG TOTALLY

LIKE ICE CREAM AND CORNED BEEF!
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Forsooth on June 12, 2012, 07:50:34 pm
Opinion: Except in very specific circumstances, mixing two foods together that one already likes should result in some thing at least equally as tasty, if not greater.

Sample exceptions: mixing a hot food and a cold food; old/expired foods; etc.

Examples: hushpuppies and salsa; chocolate milk and cereal; combining Coca-Cola and Pepsi; etc.

OMG TOTALLY

LIKE ICE CREAM AND CORNED BEEF!

Fuck yes, add a tortilla to catch the dippings and dinner is served
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Don Coyote on June 12, 2012, 07:52:36 pm
Opinion: Except in very specific circumstances, mixing two foods together that one already likes should result in some thing at least equally as tasty, if not greater.

Sample exceptions: mixing a hot food and a cold food; old/expired foods; etc.

Examples: hushpuppies and salsa; chocolate milk and cereal; combining Coca-Cola and Pepsi; etc.

OMG TOTALLY

LIKE ICE CREAM AND CORNED BEEF!

For some reason I want to do that.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: East Coast Hustle on June 12, 2012, 08:11:34 pm
Opinion: Except in very specific circumstances, mixing two foods together that one already likes should result in some thing at least equally as tasty, if not greater.

Sample exceptions: mixing a hot food and a cold food; old/expired foods; etc.

Examples: hushpuppies and salsa; chocolate milk and cereal; combining Coca-Cola and Pepsi; etc.

OMG TOTALLY

LIKE ICE CREAM AND CORNED BEEF!

Oysters on the half-shell and fresh strawberries!
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 12, 2012, 09:42:53 pm
Opinion: Except in very specific circumstances, mixing two foods together that one already likes should result in some thing at least equally as tasty, if not greater.

Sample exceptions: mixing a hot food and a cold food; old/expired foods; etc.

Examples: hushpuppies and salsa; chocolate milk and cereal; combining Coca-Cola and Pepsi; etc.

OMG TOTALLY

LIKE ICE CREAM AND CORNED BEEF!

Oysters on the half-shell and fresh strawberries!

Three words for you, my good man:

Salt and Straw.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: EK WAFFLR on June 12, 2012, 09:44:25 pm
Tomatoes with sugar.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 12, 2012, 09:44:48 pm
Salt in the coffee creamer.

Again.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Don Coyote on June 12, 2012, 09:46:22 pm
Salt in the coffee creamer.

Again.

I put salt in my coffee....
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 12, 2012, 09:48:21 pm
Salt in the coffee creamer.

Again.

I put salt in my coffee....

I put my shoes on the wrong feet...
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Don Coyote on June 12, 2012, 09:50:02 pm
Salt in the coffee creamer.

Again.

I put salt in my coffee....

I put my shoes on the wrong feet...

I'm going to start putting salt in my beer...
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 12, 2012, 09:51:44 pm
Salt in the coffee creamer.

Again.

I put salt in my coffee....

I put my shoes on the wrong feet...

I'm going to start putting salt in my beer...

You done fucked the duet up.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Don Coyote on June 12, 2012, 09:55:56 pm
Salt in the coffee creamer.

Again.

I put salt in my coffee....

I put my shoes on the wrong feet...

I'm going to start putting salt in my beer...

You done fucked the duet up.

My cat jumped into the blender...again.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 12, 2012, 10:06:14 pm
Salt in the coffee creamer.

Again.

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Reactions?
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 12, 2012, 10:11:01 pm
Salt in the coffee creamer.

Again.

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Reactions?

My people!

They love me!
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Prince Glittersnatch III on June 12, 2012, 10:11:36 pm
Opinion: Pizza is better after a day in the fridge.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Forsooth on June 12, 2012, 10:20:14 pm
Opinion: Pizza is better after a day in the fridge.

my significant-womanthing insists that cold day-old pizza is completely unedible

just means there's more deliciousness for me
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 12, 2012, 10:21:04 pm
Opinion: Pizza is better after a day in the fridge.

my significant-womanthing insists that cold day-old pizza is completely unedible

just means there's more deliciousness for me

Your woman is defective.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 12, 2012, 10:24:08 pm
Pizza is best after a night out on the coffee table, on the condition that you don't have roaches.

Salt in the coffee creamer.

Again.

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Reactions?

My people!

They love me!

But are you sure that's confetti and rose petals they're throwing?  :lulz:
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 12, 2012, 10:25:32 pm
Pizza is best after a night out on the coffee table, on the condition that you don't have roaches.

Salt in the coffee creamer.

Again.

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Reactions?

My people!

They love me!

But are you sure that's confetti and rose petals they're throwing?  :lulz:

Obviously.

It's kinda heavy, though.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 12, 2012, 10:29:46 pm
Pizza is best after a night out on the coffee table, on the condition that you don't have roaches.

Salt in the coffee creamer.

Again.

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

Reactions?

My people!

They love me!

But are you sure that's confetti and rose petals they're throwing?  :lulz:

Obviously.

It's kinda heavy, though.

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 12, 2012, 10:30:30 pm
TAKE IT OUT OF THE BIG HEAVY CANS BEFORE THROWING, PLEASE!
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 12, 2012, 10:33:26 pm
If they're not throwing chairs yet, they need more HOLYTM.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 12, 2012, 10:34:55 pm
If they're not throwing chairs yet, they need more HOLYTM.

Fortunately, my pance are chock full o' Holy™, and I'm working late.

Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 12, 2012, 10:37:38 pm
If they're not throwing chairs yet, they need more HOLYTM.

Fortunately, my pance are chock full o' Holy™, and I'm working late.

HAR HARRRRR  :lulz:

Upper deck?
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 12, 2012, 10:38:42 pm
If they're not throwing chairs yet, they need more HOLYTM.

Fortunately, my pance are chock full o' Holy™, and I'm working late.

HAR HARRRRR  :lulz:

Upper deck?

Naw.  I'm just going to be horrible.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 12, 2012, 10:47:42 pm
Now I'm intrigued.  :lol:
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 13, 2012, 12:05:50 am
Now I'm intrigued.  :lol:

I told Mike that his vestigial twin was looking healthy.  While looking at his gut.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Anna Mae Bollocks on June 13, 2012, 12:10:34 am
Now I'm intrigued.  :lol:

I told Mike that his vestigial twin was looking healthy.  While looking at his gut.

BURRRRRRRN  :lol:
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Golden Applesauce on June 13, 2012, 12:53:55 am
Oooh!

It is my opinion that Justin Bieber and his like are the clearest and most pure form of evil on the planet. Not due to the quality of his music, which, I suppose, is a mater of taste. He is the face of evil because while actual terrible things are happening in the world, and the quality and quantity of investigative journalism dwindles, and the populace demands media to soothe their 1st world woes they are listening to, and thinking about, and talking about, and looking at, and hearing casually of, and fapping to Justin Fucking Bieber.

He, to me, is the symbol of what's most wrong about humanity. Not because it's worse than rape or genital mutilation, but because it erases those those things from people's minds so efficiently, these minds being the only ones who can actually help to put an end to those things. At the very least they are wasting water on SOMETHING made out of corn to shove into their faces in a myriad of ways and watching HIM instead of doing ANYTHING to help ANYONE ever.

Firstly, merely being a symbol of something doesn't in any way grant you properties of the thing. Eduard Khil and Rick Astley are figureheads of the trolling phenomena, but they personally are/were just musicians; they're not calling up random hotel rooms and convincing the guests to throw the television out the window. Justin Bieber isn't systematically sabotaging journalist's fact checking abilities - journalists are doing that to themselves, and he's just the cutest celeb at hand. If he weren't around, journalism and civil engagement would still be in the dump, we'd just have as slightly less marketable pre-teen idol.

The second part of your opinion - that he's distracting people from fixing Important Problems - is missing the point. The two problems in the world right now are 1) to much terrible stuff happening and 2) not enough good stuff happening. There are something like 7 billion people on the planet today. We can multitask and have some create good while others eliminate evils. It's not clear that stopping work on positive projects would have all that great of an effect on eliminating more serious problems (many issues seem to be bottlenecked at organization and coming up with a working strategy, not number of bodies thrown at the problem, for example), nor that doing so is even desirable: Cutting an genuine source of shared experiences does a disservice those lucky enough to be a few levels up in Maslow's hierarchy. The end goal is to bring everyone up, not mush everyone into the second-lowest state.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Golden Applesauce on June 13, 2012, 12:58:50 am
Hey, you changed your avatar! Granted it was to another anime character, but it's progress.

I recommend that you choose Balky Bartokomous for your next avatar.

HAH! VIDEO GAME CHARACTERS, NOT ANIME CHARACTERS!

Although I suppose you could argue that Charmander is an anime character given the ridiculously long running anime which a member of his species was in for a season. But then you'd have to say that arbitrary humans are anime characters, because there were humans in that series as well.

I will admit that this particular avatar is not looking as good after a good night's sleep.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Golden Applesauce on June 13, 2012, 01:00:46 am

As a rhetorical exersice to out-argue the other side or actual real positionings and ideas?

Either, but I reserve the right to be generally obnoxious in case I can't think of anything else to say.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Golden Applesauce on June 13, 2012, 01:02:08 am
1. You post the best opinions you can come up with.

I believe force equals mass times acceleration.

"Mass times acceleration" is an expression.
"Force" is a physical quantity (sort of.)

There's a fundamental type mismatch in your claim.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 13, 2012, 01:02:35 am
1. You post the best opinions you can come up with.

I believe force equals mass times acceleration.

"Mass times acceleration" is an expression.
"Force" is a physical quantity (sort of.)

There's a fundamental type mismatch in your claim.

*plonk*
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on June 13, 2012, 01:05:50 am
Hey, you changed your avatar! Granted it was to another anime character, but it's progress.

I recommend that you choose Balky Bartokomous for your next avatar.

HAH! VIDEO GAME CHARACTERS, NOT ANIME CHARACTERS!

Although I suppose you could argue that Charmander is an anime character given the ridiculously long running anime which a member of his species was in for a season. But then you'd have to say that arbitrary humans are anime characters, because there were humans in that series as well.

I will admit that this particular avatar is not looking as good after a good night's sleep.

I'm not a dork, so I don't know the difference.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Golden Applesauce on June 13, 2012, 01:11:07 am
The world was wrecked the moment Kaiser Wilhelm I fired Otto Von Bismark.

Bismarck outlived Wilhelm I. It was his son who fired him.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Golden Applesauce on June 13, 2012, 01:28:02 am
Norway isn't part of Belgium.

Nonsense. All your European "countries" have been so hopelessly dominating and penetrating each other the last 1000 years or so that it's impossible to tell where inbred fiefdom stops and the next begins. You have Germans living next to Frenchman in the UK, which includes a chunk of Ireland (except the people who live there are all Scottish.) Perhaps with a decade or so of research, a team of expert sociologists claim to have found the boundary between Norwegians and Belgians (perhaps based on regional variations on alcohol manufacture?) but their findings could never be considered conclusive. In fact, the whole premise of modern Europe is that it just isn't worth it to work out the real boundaries between countries because that seems to require multiple religious and ethnic minorities to take it in the neck.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Golden Applesauce on June 13, 2012, 01:48:43 am
Magnets: Not really that complicated.

Sure, they're just one half of an orthogonal set of recursively generative force fields, which allows a perpetual-motion* wave-quanta by waving a magnet around just right. The simplest way to mathematically model this behavior starts with imaginary numbers, differential equations, and freaky circular graphs.

And that's if you stick to the easy stuff. There's a bunch of chaotic effects, even without digging to the quantum level. Throw in questions like "How magnetic is my fullerene, given this set of impurities?" and you have dozens of lifetimes you can spend and still not have gotten to the bottom of magnetism.

*Yes, you can get perpetual motion, with the restriction that the perpetual motion machine in question must subjectively experience zero time and have zero rest mass.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Golden Applesauce on June 13, 2012, 01:52:33 am
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

That phrase is only coherent in context of a morally-normative cosmos, of which we not only have zero evidence, but there isn't even evidence to support such a worldview that could conceivably exist.  C.f., Hume's Law.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 13, 2012, 02:17:08 am
The world was wrecked the moment Kaiser Wilhelm I fired Otto Von Bismark.

Bismarck outlived Wilhelm I. It was his son who fired him.

It was his grandson, actually.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Golden Applesauce on June 13, 2012, 02:21:34 am
“America ... has created a 'civilization' that represents an exact contradiction of the ancient European tradition. It has introduced the religion of praxis and productivity; it has put the quest for profit, great industrial production, and mechanical, visible, and quantitative achievements over any other interest. It has generated a soulless greatness of a purely technological and collective nature, lacking any background of transcendence, inner light, and true spirituality. America has [built a society where] man becomes a mere instrument of production and material productivity within a conformist social conglomerate”

"Exact contradiction of the ancient European tradition"? Really? Julius Caesar was funded by Crassus so Crassus and his political allies could recover losses incurred by making bad bets about the profitability of property taxes in Asia Minor. We learned all this shit from you, we just allow our government to act in favor of the wealthy with fewer civil wars.  And don't give me any nonsense about "lacking any background of transcendence, inner light, and true spirituality." We have the Great Awakening, Pentecostals, bluegrass, and soul music.  On the other hand, Germany and Norway have some of the highest rates of depression in the developed world, and Europe in general is the most religiously and spiritually apathetic continent.

Come to the National Storytelling Festival this October and then see if you can call America soulless.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Golden Applesauce on June 13, 2012, 02:21:57 am
The world was wrecked the moment Kaiser Wilhelm I fired Otto Von Bismark.

Bismarck outlived Wilhelm I. It was his son who fired him.

It was his grandson, actually.

A grandson is a type of son.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 13, 2012, 02:22:11 am
The world was wrecked the moment Kaiser Wilhelm I fired Otto Von Bismark.

Bismarck outlived Wilhelm I. It was his son who fired him.

It was his grandson, actually.

A grandson is a type of son.

nuh uh
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Golden Applesauce on June 13, 2012, 02:23:54 am
Hey, you changed your avatar! Granted it was to another anime character, but it's progress.

I recommend that you choose Balky Bartokomous for your next avatar.

HAH! VIDEO GAME CHARACTERS, NOT ANIME CHARACTERS!

Although I suppose you could argue that Charmander is an anime character given the ridiculously long running anime which a member of his species was in for a season. But then you'd have to say that arbitrary humans are anime characters, because there were humans in that series as well.

I will admit that this particular avatar is not looking as good after a good night's sleep.

I'm not a dork, so I don't know the difference.

I replaced it with an avatar of an actual anime character, so that while you may be ignorant, you won't also be wrong.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Golden Applesauce on June 13, 2012, 02:34:01 am
Store-bought mayonnaise: not actually food. Rather, some unholy combination of industrial lubricant and titanium dioxide.

Titanium dioxide is perfectly fine for human consumption. It's useful in industry for precisely the same reason it's safe to eat: the stuff is one of the most chemically inert solids we have. Granted, that doesn't make it nutritional, but it's hardly "unholy."

Strictly speaking, I'd have to concede that store-mayonnaise is more of a texturing agent than a foodstuff in its own right, but that's true of a lot of foods. Tomatos are biologically fruit but a culinary vegetable, because they go in regular salad and not fruit salad. By similar reasoning, mayonnaise is not only a food, but a green leafy vegetable.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Golden Applesauce on June 13, 2012, 02:35:50 am
You are right in your argument against my argument.

:hammer:

Your argument is semantically incoherent, as its putative topic (an argument against it) couldn't exist, even conceptually.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Golden Applesauce on June 13, 2012, 02:44:47 am
Despite the importance of oil, Norway's primary export is actually the "ø". The "ø" was developed by Norwegian scientists in the early 1800s only to be used in emergencies. After the Cold War however, the "ø" was finally released and available for worldwide sale. An "ø" on eBay is likely to cost an estimated $ 12.99 (transportation not included), while a custom made "ø" like the ones used by Stephen Colbert in the Wørd and several Colbertwood facilities cost anywhere from $ 100,000 up to $ 5,000,000. Approximately 68 percent of Norway's GNP stems from this export.
Critics have pointed out that also Denmark uses the "ø". These people are communists.

Google search for "norway ø" turns up about 8.5 million hits. A search on the same engine for "norway oil" has a over 110 million hits. Clearly, oil is the more important export.

It's true that an individual bespoke ø can as valuable as hundreds of thousands of barrels of crude, you're forgetting that the vast majority of them are merely employed as untypable letters in a CAPTCHA. Solving CAPTHAs goes for about US $.13 per hundred, so the average ø is only worth about 1 / 4 000th of cent.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 13, 2012, 03:09:26 am
I can cornrow my ass hair.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 13, 2012, 03:18:59 am
I can cornrow my ass hair.

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD?
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on June 13, 2012, 03:19:50 am
I can cornrow my ass hair.

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD?

Because I CAN, I MUST!

Have I mentioned that my family has only been upright for 3 generations?
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Nephew Twiddleton on June 13, 2012, 03:37:40 am
Hey, you changed your avatar! Granted it was to another anime character, but it's progress.

I recommend that you choose Balky Bartokomous for your next avatar.

HAH! VIDEO GAME CHARACTERS, NOT ANIME CHARACTERS!

Although I suppose you could argue that Charmander is an anime character given the ridiculously long running anime which a member of his species was in for a season. But then you'd have to say that arbitrary humans are anime characters, because there were humans in that series as well.

I will admit that this particular avatar is not looking as good after a good night's sleep.

I'm not a dork, so I don't know the difference.

I replaced it with an avatar of an actual anime character, so that while you may be ignorant, you won't also be wrong.

That's not Balky. I believe I suggested Balky. I now demand Balky.
Title: Re: All of you are wrong about everything
Post by: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on June 13, 2012, 08:53:47 am
I can cornrow my ass hair.

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD?

Because I CAN, I MUST!

Have I mentioned that my family has only been upright for 3 generations?

 :lulz: