Quote from: Pergamos on February 09, 2026, 06:45:04 AMNo, I didn't miss a thing. I intentionally, and specifically provide the statistic about the 77,303,568 'Mericans who voted for the most vile former president, as well as the most vile presidential candidate ever nominated by either of 'Merica's two major political parties in my lifetime. Those 77,303,568 'Merican voters WON the election for the POSOTUS.Quote from: Abbot Mythos on February 09, 2026, 02:31:35 AMYou're missing the option that most people picked, which was "none of the above" That's what happens when the choices are "the bad you're used to" and "worse"Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2026, 08:00:36 PMThat was part of it but she was also continuing very tried and tested voice of the establishment that Biden had represented, there's no appetite for that.On Tuesday, Election Day, November 5th, 2024, 77,303,568 'Mericans had the choice between ...
Its the reason AOC had a chance and Harris would have none
Quote from: Abbot Mythos on February 09, 2026, 02:31:35 AMQuote from: Faust on February 08, 2026, 08:00:36 PMThat was part of it but she was also continuing very tried and tested voice of the establishment that Biden had represented, there's no appetite for that.AOC was not on the ballot seeking the nomination of the Democratic Party for POTUS in 2024. Joe Biden won the majority of the pledged delegates during the party's primary process, easily beating two (2) other already long forgotten male contenders. But, Biden ended his campaign for reelection before being officially nominated. Then, as per Rule 13J of the party's delegate selection rules, pledged delegates were left free to vote for whoever they wanted to be their candidate. And, after the delegates negotiated among themselves, Kamala Harris was nominated to run for POTUS, without a second national level Democratic Party primary vote being held. So, I'm unaware of any serious possibility where "AOC had a chance" to run for the office, much less become the current POTUS.
Its the reason AOC had a chance and Harris would have none
But, let me get this straight:
On Tuesday, Election Day, November 5th, 2024, 77,303,568 'Mericans had the choice between a very old, unhealthy looking, white, male, boorish, misogynist, racist, Putin lovin', pedophile friending, twice impeached, economy sinking, COVID-19 pandemic denying, 2020 election losing, failed January 6th insurrection leading, convicted felon, and adjudicated rapist, that was on the ballot with an 'R' after its name, and Vice President Kamala Harris. And, each of those voters said to themselves something to the effect of, "Oh, hell yeah, baby! Gimme some more of that first one! I don't want no "very tried and tested voice of the establishment" politician runnin' no gubernment of mine!
Come on?! Seriously?! Are you really going to go with that?!
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2026, 08:00:36 PMThat was part of it but she was also continuing very tried and tested voice of the establishment that Biden had represented, there's no appetite for that.AOC was not on the ballot seeking the nomination of the Democratic Party for POTUS in 2024. Joe Biden won the majority of the pledged delegates during the party's primary process, easily beating two (2) other already long forgotten male contenders. But, Biden ended his campaign for reelection before being officially nominated. Then, as per Rule 13J of the party's delegate selection rules, pledged delegates were left free to vote for whoever they wanted to be their candidate. And, after the delegates negotiated among themselves, Kamala Harris was nominated to run for POTUS, without a second national level Democratic Party primary vote being held. So, I'm unaware of any serious possibility where "AOC had a chance" to run for the office, much less become the current POTUS.
Its the reason AOC had a chance and Harris would have none
Quote from: Pergamos on February 08, 2026, 05:55:34 PMThe candidate's race and gender matter a lot less than their positions.Vice President and Presidential Candidate Kamala Harris lost because of her race(s), gender, and political party affiliation.
Quote from: Abbot Mythos on February 03, 2026, 11:05:51 PMNovember 7th, 2028 is a long way off, and a lot is going to happen between now and the U.S. Presidential Election. But, at the time of this posting, I think James Carville knows what he's talking about:
The Democrat James Carville thinks is worth watching in 2028 will surprise you
"Carville says Kamala Harris 'has no chance' in 2028 Democratic primary"
As per this article:
"Asked about whether he could see Harris as the party's standard-bearer in 2028, Carville responded, "She has no chance."
Harris replaced then-President Joe Biden as the Democrats' 2024 presidential nominee after Biden dropped his bid in July of that year, a month after a disastrous debate performance against Trump. Harris ended up losing the general election to Trump, who narrowly swept all seven key battleground states.
"No Democrat wants anything to do with anybody that had anything to do with 2024," Carville emphasized, as he reasoned why Harris couldn't win the 2028 nomination. He also questioned whether Harris, the nation's first female and first Black vice president, had the ability to energize the Black community if she launched another White House run.
Carville said that the Democrats' mantra heading into 2028 is "just win," and argued that "if we nominate two white males, nobody's going to give a s---.""
And, I couldn't agree more.
Quote from: Mandelbrot Slapper on February 04, 2026, 06:46:00 AMThere needs to be a lot more of this.You said two, and then only named one, who other than the Jazzy Jermans?
In Nazi Germany the two strongest forces of resistance to the Brownshirts were the jazz fans. Jazz was one of the first things the one balled arsehole banned as it was black music. (Echoes of this in the Bad Bunny fiasco at the Super bowl) Kids took wind up gramophones to parks & beaches to dance in overt acts of public rebellion. They fought running battles with Hitler Youth & SA units. Often utilising those gramophones as weapons.
Florida kids have taken up the cudgel. Don't be like the German parents were & let them stand alone against tyranny.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/2069178570572909
Quote from: Mandelbrot Slapper on February 07, 2026, 10:31:50 PMOh I'm sure he's sacrificed some underling. He's not averse to throwing anyone under the bus to save his own saggy arse. Made a career out of it. Well out of that & nicking..Well ... given the quotation in the title of the following article, I wouldn't bet the farm on the POSOTUS aiming his catchphrase at a "staffer" today:
Quote from: Mandelbrot Slapper on February 07, 2026, 10:31:50 PMNow I think at this time, as the foundations are laid for rise of The Turd Reich, everyone should read a fabulous early 20th century novel called The Berlin of Sally Bowles by Christopher Isherwood.I'm not familiar with any of the works of Christopher Isherwood. But, I'll put your recommendation on my future reading list.
Lovely depiction of what happens to a dying imperial power's society when the rabble is hungry enough to be thoroughly roused.
There was quite a good Broadway show of it as well. But do read the book.