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#71
Apple Talk / Re: America Year Zero
Last post by Mandelbrot Slapper - February 09, 2026, 01:19:24 PM
Oh yeah sorry. Was quite stoned.
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The Second was The White Rose Resistance. Students at a Munich University, in the heart of the Nazi home ground. Hans & Sophie Scholl were siblings & they printed an illicit paper which they distributed in the wee hours of the morning after printing it in the University print shop after everyone else had left. They lambasted Mein Kampf from a literary as well as ideological perspective. They published battle casualty statistics from British & Russian sources. Reported on U-boat & battleship sinkings. Talked of concentration camps.

They were guillotined in 1943. Hans' last words were
"Es lebe die Freiheit!"  (Long live freedom)

When they died Hans was 22 & Sophie had just turned 20. 16 other members were executed over the next three months & 13 more sentenced to between 6 months & 10 years in prison.

I'm reminded of an old NY Anarchist collective motto. "Flower power won't fight fascist power. All you need is dynamite"
#72
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Regarding 'Merica's Actual...
Last post by Abbot Mythos - February 09, 2026, 08:30:43 AM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 09, 2026, 06:45:04 AM
Quote from: Abbot Mythos on February 09, 2026, 02:31:35 AM
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2026, 08:00:36 PMThat was part of it but she was also continuing very tried and tested voice of the establishment that Biden had represented, there's no appetite for that.
Its the reason AOC had a chance and Harris would have none
On Tuesday, Election Day, November 5th, 2024, 77,303,568 'Mericans had the choice between ...
You're missing the option that most people picked, which was "none of the above" That's what happens when the choices are "the bad you're used to" and "worse"
No, I didn't miss a thing. I intentionally, and specifically provide the statistic about the 77,303,568 'Mericans who voted for the most vile former president, as well as the most vile presidential candidate ever nominated by either of 'Merica's two major political parties in my lifetime. Those 77,303,568 'Merican voters WON the election for the POSOTUS.

And, as I've written before with slightly different wording, this begs the question: Just how vile does a Republicultâ„¢ presidential candidate have to be before they can be beaten by a Black and Asian-American, female, Democratic Vice President?

And, as I've also written before: "Vice President and Presidential Candidate Kamala Harris lost because of her race(s), gender, and political party affiliation."

All of the registered members of the Democratic Party had ample time and opportunity to chose to run for their party's nomination for POTUS themselves, or encourage other members of their political party to run for their party's nomination for POTUS, as well as to nominate an acceptable write-in candidate(s) for their party's nomination for POTUS. I've already provided details about how they first chose Joe Biden, and later nominated Kamala Harris to be their party's candidate for POTUS.
#73
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Regarding 'Merica's Actual...
Last post by Pergamos - February 09, 2026, 06:45:04 AM
Quote from: Abbot Mythos on February 09, 2026, 02:31:35 AM
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2026, 08:00:36 PMThat was part of it but she was also continuing very tried and tested voice of the establishment that Biden had represented, there's no appetite for that.
Its the reason AOC had a chance and Harris would have none
AOC was not on the ballot seeking the nomination of the Democratic Party for POTUS in 2024. Joe Biden won the majority of the pledged delegates during the party's primary process, easily beating two (2) other already long forgotten male contenders. But, Biden ended his campaign for reelection before being officially nominated. Then, as per Rule 13J of the party's delegate selection rules, pledged delegates were left free to vote for whoever they wanted to be their candidate. And, after the delegates negotiated among themselves, Kamala Harris was nominated to run for POTUS, without a second national level Democratic Party primary vote being held. So, I'm unaware of any serious possibility where "AOC had a chance" to run for the office, much less become the current POTUS.

But, let me get this straight:

On Tuesday, Election Day, November 5th, 2024, 77,303,568 'Mericans had the choice between a very old, unhealthy looking, white, male, boorish, misogynist, racist, Putin lovin', pedophile friending, twice impeached, economy sinking, COVID-19 pandemic denying, 2020 election losing, failed January 6th insurrection leading, convicted felon, and adjudicated rapist, that was on the ballot with an 'R' after its name, and Vice President Kamala Harris. And, each of those voters said to themselves something to the effect of, "Oh, hell yeah, baby! Gimme some more of that first one! I don't want no "very tried and tested voice of the establishment" politician runnin' no gubernment of mine!

Come on?! Seriously?! Are you really going to go with that?!

You're missing the option that most people picked, which was "none of the above" That's what happens when the choices are "the bad you're used to" and "worse"
#74
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Regarding 'Merica's Actual...
Last post by Abbot Mythos - February 09, 2026, 02:31:35 AM
Quote from: Faust on February 08, 2026, 08:00:36 PMThat was part of it but she was also continuing very tried and tested voice of the establishment that Biden had represented, there's no appetite for that.
Its the reason AOC had a chance and Harris would have none
AOC was not on the ballot seeking the nomination of the Democratic Party for POTUS in 2024. Joe Biden won the majority of the pledged delegates during the party's primary process, easily beating two (2) other already long forgotten male contenders. But, Biden ended his campaign for reelection before being officially nominated. Then, as per Rule 13J of the party's delegate selection rules, pledged delegates were left free to vote for whoever they wanted to be their candidate. And, after the delegates negotiated among themselves, Kamala Harris was nominated to run for POTUS, without a second national level Democratic Party primary vote being held. So, I'm unaware of any serious possibility where "AOC had a chance" to run for the office, much less become the current POTUS.

But, let me get this straight:

On Tuesday, Election Day, November 5th, 2024, 77,303,568 'Mericans had the choice between a very old, unhealthy looking, white, male, boorish, misogynist, racist, Putin lovin', pedophile friending, twice impeached, economy sinking, COVID-19 pandemic denying, 2020 election losing, failed January 6th insurrection leading, convicted felon, and adjudicated rapist, that was on the ballot with an 'R' after its name, and Vice President Kamala Harris. And, each of those voters said to themselves something to the effect of, "Oh, hell yeah, baby! Gimme some more of that first one! I don't want no "very tried and tested voice of the establishment" politician runnin' no gubernment of mine!

Come on?! Seriously?! Are you really going to go with that?!
#75
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Regarding 'Merica's Actual...
Last post by Faust - February 08, 2026, 08:00:36 PM
That was part of it but she was also continuing very tried and tested voice of the establishment that Biden had represented, there's no appetite for that.
Its the reason AOC had a chance and Harris would have none
#76
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Regarding 'Merica's Actual...
Last post by Abbot Mythos - February 08, 2026, 06:54:31 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on February 08, 2026, 05:55:34 PMThe candidate's race and gender matter a lot less than their positions.
Vice President and Presidential Candidate Kamala Harris lost because of her race(s), gender, and political party affiliation.

I guess I'm going to have to revive my old Hard Lessons to be Learned Before the Next Election topic. I thought I had just about beaten it to death, and became bored with it. But, obviously, there are still unbelievers out there. So, I'd better get back to it, and complete my editing.
#77
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Regarding 'Merica's Actual...
Last post by Pergamos - February 08, 2026, 05:55:34 PM
Quote from: Abbot Mythos on February 03, 2026, 11:05:51 PMNovember 7th, 2028 is  a long way off, and a lot is going to happen between now and the U.S. Presidential Election. But, at the time of this posting, I think James Carville knows what he's talking about:

The Democrat James Carville thinks is worth watching in 2028 will surprise you

"Carville says Kamala Harris 'has no chance' in 2028 Democratic primary"

As per this article:

"Asked about whether he could see Harris as the party's standard-bearer in 2028, Carville responded, "She has no chance."

Harris replaced then-President Joe Biden as the Democrats' 2024 presidential nominee after Biden dropped his bid in July of that year, a month after a disastrous debate performance against Trump. Harris ended up losing the general election to Trump, who narrowly swept all seven key battleground states.

"No Democrat wants anything to do with anybody that had anything to do with 2024," Carville emphasized, as he reasoned why Harris couldn't win the 2028 nomination. He also questioned whether Harris, the nation's first female and first Black vice president, had the ability to energize the Black community if she launched another White House run.

Carville said that the Democrats' mantra heading into 2028 is "just win," and argued that "if we nominate two white males, nobody's going to give a s---.""

And, I couldn't agree more.

The candidate's race and gender matter a lot less than their positions.  If we nominate Newsom and Buttigeig they'll repeat Harris' losing strategy of attempting to pursue GOP voters while ignoring progressives and the left.  At this point a candidate that campaigns on cutting off Israel, and dismantling ICE can win, one that supports genocide and retaining the American Gestapo isn't going to be able to out fascist Vance, or whoever the GOP puts up, but they will be able to alienate a huge portion of their base.

My preference would be for a working class patriot who wants to take down the pedophiles and the system that enabled their predation.  I haven't seen a candidate like that yet, but I'm sure there are some out there.  I know that would resonate with not only the left, and the mainstream Democrats, but also QAnon types and a lot of the folks who voted for Sanders and Trump, or Trump and Mamdani.
#78
Apple Talk / Re: America Year Zero
Last post by Pergamos - February 08, 2026, 05:37:45 PM
Quote from: Mandelbrot Slapper on February 04, 2026, 06:46:00 AMThere needs to be a lot more of this.

In Nazi Germany the two strongest forces of resistance to the Brownshirts were the jazz fans. Jazz was one of the first things the one balled arsehole banned as it was black music. (Echoes of this in the Bad Bunny fiasco at the Super bowl) Kids took wind up gramophones to parks & beaches to dance in overt acts of public rebellion. They fought running battles with Hitler Youth & SA units. Often utilising those gramophones as weapons.

Florida kids have taken up the cudgel. Don't be like the German parents were & let them stand alone against tyranny.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2069178570572909



You said two, and then only named one, who other than the Jazzy Jermans?
#79
Aneristic Illusions / Re: The Greenland Invasion Thr...
Last post by Faust - February 08, 2026, 08:24:51 AM
It has permanently damaged the US reputation worldwide, you are not seen as an ally or partner any more  just a vague threat and the EU is making active moves to remove all US IT infrastructure from businesses and utilities
#80
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Money Can't Buy Class - Ex...
Last post by Abbot Mythos - February 08, 2026, 06:03:40 AM
Quote from: Mandelbrot Slapper on February 07, 2026, 10:31:50 PMOh I'm sure he's sacrificed some underling. He's not averse to throwing anyone under the bus to save his own saggy arse. Made a career out of it. Well out of that & nicking..
Well ... given the quotation in the title of the following article, I wouldn't bet the farm on the POSOTUS aiming his catchphrase at a "staffer" today:

Trump won't apologize for sharing since-deleted racist video depicting Obamas as apes on Truth Social

As per this article:

"President Donald Trump refused to apologize Friday after posting and then deleting a racist video depicting former President Barack Obama and former first lady Michelle Obama as apes in a jungle, insisting he hadn't seen the final frames containing the offensive content and blaming a staffer for the mistake"

And, as per further along in this article:

"Trump said after he watched the first section of the video, he passed it on to a staffer, who he said should have watched it to the end.
 
"Somebody slipped and missed a very small part," he said.
 
But when asked directly whether he would apologize amid GOP calls to do so, he declined.

"No," he said. "I didn't make a mistake.""
 
Now, U.S. President Harry S. Truman kept a sign on his desk that read "The BUCK STOPS here!" But, the POSOTUS has little in common with "Give 'em Hell, Harry!" (My father, a Democrat, liked to refer to him as "High tax Harry.")

Quote from: Mandelbrot Slapper on February 07, 2026, 10:31:50 PMNow I think at this time, as the foundations are laid for rise of The Turd Reich, everyone should read a fabulous early 20th century novel called The Berlin of Sally Bowles by Christopher Isherwood.

Lovely depiction of what happens to a dying imperial power's society when the rabble is hungry enough to be thoroughly roused.

There was quite a good Broadway show of it as well. But do read the book.
I'm not familiar with any of the works of Christopher Isherwood. But, I'll put your recommendation on my future reading list.