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Started by Icey, January 31, 2011, 05:04:09 PM

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Icey

#15
January 31, 2011, 05:25:03 PM
@Suu: Nice.

@Charley Brown: Zap you with some chaos magic?

@Rev: Fair enough.

Phox

#16
January 31, 2011, 05:25:30 PM
Quote from: Suu on January 31, 2011, 05:23:08 PM
Quote from: Icey on January 31, 2011, 05:21:16 PM
Quote from: Suu on January 31, 2011, 05:16:12 PM
Quote from: Icey on January 31, 2011, 05:14:13 PM
As for chaos magic, if you have anything to say about it, you should say it. You might even help me grow by doing so.

There is no such thing.

Just saying it doesn't exist isn't very productive.

Sure it is. I produced a thought and then a sentence.

But it didn't produce any verifiable madgickal change in the universe, Suu! I should know, I'm a 'ccultist.

Phox,
Is an occultist. For realz, yo.

Suu

#17
January 31, 2011, 05:26:31 PM
Listen. I write horoscopes for a living. Fuck you all, there is no such thing as magic.
Sovereign Episkopos-Princess Kaousuu; Esq., Battle Nun, Bene Gesserit.
Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

Adios

#18
January 31, 2011, 05:28:32 PM
Quote from: Suu on January 31, 2011, 05:26:31 PM
Listen. I write horoscopes for a living. Fuck you all, there is no such thing as magic.

Yes there is. A kiss, a sunset, a beautiful perfect morning. All magic.

Phox

#19
January 31, 2011, 05:28:56 PM
Quote from: Suu on January 31, 2011, 05:26:31 PM
Listen. I write horoscopes for a living. Fuck you all, there is no such thing as magic.
:aww:

B-b-b-but.... my tarot....  :cry:

Quote from: Charley Brown on January 31, 2011, 05:28:32 PM
Quote from: Suu on January 31, 2011, 05:26:31 PM
Listen. I write horoscopes for a living. Fuck you all, there is no such thing as magic.

Yes there is. A kiss, a sunset, a beautiful perfect morning. All magic.
:)

Suu

#20
January 31, 2011, 05:31:16 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on January 31, 2011, 05:28:32 PM
Quote from: Suu on January 31, 2011, 05:26:31 PM
Listen. I write horoscopes for a living. Fuck you all, there is no such thing as magic.

Yes there is. A kiss, a sunset, a beautiful perfect morning. All magic.

Okay, yes. Magic. But not MAGJDICK.
Sovereign Episkopos-Princess Kaousuu; Esq., Battle Nun, Bene Gesserit.
Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

LMNO

#21
January 31, 2011, 05:31:51 PM
Cue Ratatosk the White Knight of Magick in 5... 4... 3...

The Good Reverend Roger

#22
January 31, 2011, 05:34:25 PM
Quote from: Icey on January 31, 2011, 05:21:16 PM
Quote from: Suu on January 31, 2011, 05:16:12 PM
Quote from: Icey on January 31, 2011, 05:14:13 PM
As for chaos magic, if you have anything to say about it, you should say it. You might even help me grow by doing so.

There is no such thing.

Just saying it doesn't exist isn't very productive.

The tooth fairy also doesn't exist.  Pretending that magic exists isn't productive.  Learning to deal with the world as it really is, is productive.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#23
January 31, 2011, 05:37:02 PM
Quote from: Suu on January 31, 2011, 05:26:31 PM
Listen. I write horoscopes for a living. Fuck you all, there is no such thing as magic.

This.

The human brain is weird enough.  The world itself is weird enough, if you know where to look.

There's no NEED for rubbing one out on your "sigil" to make things happen.  If you spend time learning to see The World As It Is, rather than The World As You Want To See It, there's no end of strange shit going on.

Magic(k) is just another way of propping up a weak worldview.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

AFK

#24
January 31, 2011, 05:39:07 PM
Never been awake
Never seen a day break
Leaning on my pillow in the morning
Lazy day in bed
Music in my head
Crazy music playing in the morning light

Ho, ho, ho
It's magic, you know
Never believe it's not so
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

LMNO

#25
January 31, 2011, 05:41:09 PM
Incidentally, "I use the word 'magick' to describe the practices of self-hypnosis and NLP" doesn't count, because we already have words for self-hypnosis and NLP.

Icey

#26
January 31, 2011, 05:41:55 PM
I think some are under a misconception that I have some sort of higher being which gives me power and/or excuses on why bad and/or good stuff happens. I do not. I am firmly agnostic.

And, saying that I'm using magic as a means of propping up a weak worldview is a touch arrogant, don't you think? It's possible that we all can be wrong, correct?

Lies

#27
January 31, 2011, 05:43:20 PM
Quote from: Icey on January 31, 2011, 05:41:55 PM
I think some are under a misconception that I have some sort of higher being which gives me power and/or excuses on why bad and/or good stuff happens. I do not. I am firmly agnostic.

And, saying that I'm using magic as a means of propping up a weak worldview is a touch arrogant, don't you think? It's possible that we all can be wrong, correct?

:lulz: :lulz:
- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!

LMNO

#28
January 31, 2011, 05:45:33 PM
As soon as you can give me a reasonable explanation as to how conciousness can violate known physical laws, I'll conceed your point.

The Good Reverend Roger

#29
January 31, 2011, 05:46:42 PM Last Edit: January 31, 2011, 05:49:20 PM by The Good Reverend Roger
Quote from: Icey on January 31, 2011, 05:41:55 PM
I think some are under a misconception that I have some sort of higher being which gives me power and/or excuses on why bad and/or good stuff happens. I do not. I am firmly agnostic.

And, saying that I'm using magic as a means of propping up a weak worldview is a touch arrogant, don't you think? It's possible that we all can be wrong, correct?

Depends on how you define "arrogant".  I'm an agnostic as well, and I have a pretty strong disdain for cultish thinking like Scientology, the Reverend Moon, and Calvinism, among other weird beliefs.  I extend that disdain to people who believe in cargo cult thinking, supply-side economics, Ayn Rand, and magic(k).

ETA:  There's a possibility my worldview is inaccurate...In fact, it's a certainty that my worldview is to some degree inaccurate, as I am not omniscient (As a Holy Man™, I AM, however, omnifallible).  However, this does not imply that consciousness can - in and of itself - alter objective reality.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.
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