The Movie "The Matrix" And Your View of it Before and After Eris.

[Cramulus]

It's a gnostic superhero movie! I thought the first one was excellent, for what it was. I do love narratives with that "gnostic awakening" theme --- to paraphrase Phillip K Dick --- "You and the True God are allied against an imperfect world and its fallen and corrupt creator." And there's this idea of gnosis, this moment of awakening that takes place and allows you to transcend the corrupt world.

I thought the second movie had a lot of good discussion about Free Will vs Determinism, I found that theme to be particularly strong, but they weren't able to resolve to satisfaction.


If you like The Matrix then you should read the Invisibles, by Grant Morrison. He stole a lot of ideas from the Invisibles, and Grant Morrison is a Discordian, so it's probably up your alley too.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Redpill, Machine, all that and more. The movie is now not an action treat for me, but a symbolic piece, a representative of "real" life, more true to it than most viewers could ever dream.

Does anyone else see this?

This is the same sort of rationalization employed by furries, people who think they can throw fireballs, and teabaggers.

[*GrumpButt*]

Mind Bullets *Pew-Pew* ><

[Requia ☣]

The movie predates this board I think... You can graft the symbolism onto it and view it with Discordian eyes but for the most part it was just Plato and Descartes with a full clip on semi-automatic.

It has nothing to do with Plato dammit 

[LMNO]

Sure it does.  The Matrix itself is a NEO-Platonic existence.

[Payne]

Before: Neo was Jesus.

After: Neo was Jesus.

Note - Eris hasn't really affected my views on reality all that much.

[Prince Glittersnatch III]

I was in middle school when The Matrix came out, so yeah I thought that shit was both awesome and mind blowing at the time.  I can remember walking out of the theater doing the whole "Is this real?" thing.  It was my first exposure to that.  Just like a lot of people had the same thought after Inception, whereas those who consider the nature of reality just didn't care about that aspect of the movie.

I still think The Matrix is a good action flic.  The latter two were really, atrociously awful.

This is what I bugs me. The Matrix was such a wasted potential for a franchise.

[Icey]

Redpill, Machine, all that and more. The movie is now not an action treat for me, but a symbolic piece, a representative of "real" life, more true to it than most viewers could ever dream.

Does anyone else see this?

This is the same sort of rationalization employed by furries, people who think they can throw fireballs, and teabaggers.

Please explain how you got your interpretation of that from what I wrote.

[The Johnny]

Redpill, Machine, all that and more. The movie is now not an action treat for me, but a symbolic piece, a representative of "real" life, more true to it than most viewers could ever dream.

Does anyone else see this?

This is the same sort of rationalization employed by furries, people who think they can throw fireballs, and teabaggers.

Please explain how you got your interpretation of that from what I wrote.

I cant speak for TGRR, but, like, justifying-making sense-a posteriori because of what you attribute to it, not what it is itself.

Althought the foremost symbolic theme that is REAL revolves around one jackoff that thinks hes SPECIAL, that KNOWS he can change the world and that wants to be a fucking MARTYR.

To be associated with subversive teenager mentality before they turn into another cog because now "they are more mature, because IT WAS JUST A PHASE AFTER ALL"

FUCK THE MATRIX OR KILLLLLL MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Cramulus]

 

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Dammit, Johnny!  I built up to the punchline, and you swiped it!   

[The Johnny]

EITHER

The early bird gets the worm

OR

... teh second mouse gets the cheese?

OR

[Luna]

EITHER

The early bird gets the worm

OR

... teh second mouse gets the cheese?

OR

Getting up early wasn't a very good idea for the worm, now, was it?

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

EITHER

The early bird gets the worm

OR

... teh second mouse gets the cheese?

OR

Getting up early wasn't a very good idea for the worm, now, was it?

I dunno, maybe he was tired of a life eating dirt ...

[Jasper]

I think the whole thing could have been great if A) it wasn't trying to be a great action flick and a towering riddle of symbology, and B) I think everyone can agree, suffered from less gratuitous use of Keanu.

I did like the Merovingian.  He seems like my kind of fun.