ATTN: BLEACHERS

[Freeky]

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=001990

IT KEEPS HAPPENING!

[Nephew Twiddleton]

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=001990

IT KEEPS HAPPENING!

Errr... just what?

[Freeky]

I flashes if you click on the buttons, and the sound repeats. 

No, it doesn't make sense out of context.  I realize this, and know it won't be funny.  BUT IT IS SHINEFLASHYCOLORS/

[Nephew Twiddleton]

I'm not going to get it tonight. Sorry, just not in the right headspace. But you know me on facebook and dok has my phone number, so PM, PM, or text. 

On Saturday. Working then Frost Heaves show later today.

[President Television]

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=001990

IT KEEPS HAPPENING!

You read Homestuck? Awesome.

[Freeky]

Fuck yeah dude!  I got hooked on it recently.  I'm rereading it to kill time until it's updated again.

[President Television]

Fuck yeah dude!  I got hooked on it recently.  I'm rereading it to kill time until it's updated again.

I love how there are something like four layers of metafiction by the time it even gets to its central premise, and that's before things start getting recursive.

[Cain]

Part of it might be the slavery thing. Us whitens know we dun wrong if only fer th' treason.

We may have had very bad race relations since... well... 1776, but race is inherently part of our history. American history is whites vs everyone else until, I prefer to think the 1960s. But all of us have that in the back of our minds. We had a civil war over slavery based on racism.

Australia, like America, was built on genocide of the original population, partially through disease and partially through design.  Hell, for a long time, the Aborigines were seen as one step above animals (barely), and up until the 1970s, Aboriginal children were being stolen from their families to be raised as wards of the state (an ideology driven by the blatantly racist idea that "half-caste" Aborigines could be "turned white" through subsequent generations of breeding, at least in the 1930s, and by more subtle forms of racism later on).

Hell, just look at the average life expectancy of an Aboriginal compared to a white Australian.  47 years, in some places.  Also, a sociologist I know has found strong correlation between birth mortality rates and official discrimination, and in Australia in 2006, the rate of indigenous infant deaths was 10 out of every 1000, while the non-indigenous rate is 4.4 of every 1000.

Australia has also traditionally feared the "Yellow Peril" and "Asian invasion", frequently passing immigration laws aimed at excluding such groups from the country as much as possible.  They even called it "the White Australia Policy".  The enemy changed every generation or so, Chinese goldminers, invading Japanese (which, to be fair, was a credible threat post 1937), Chinese Communists, Indonesian terrorists etc but there pretty much always has been one, and even though the Whitlam Admin officially abandoned the policy, that Australia still acts in a heavy-handed and totally inappropriate manner when dealing with illegal immigrants and asylum seekers is almost certainly a legacy of this worldview.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Honestly, I don't think that Lysergic was trying to offend anyone, obviously since most of us are Bleachers, and I think everyone is part Bleacher at the least (correct me if I'm wrong), but maybe he needed to blow off some steam? Sort of like, tried to go for the lulz, but fell short? I dunno, I'm not a prison colonist.

Also, I thought he was part Native Australian, but he's part Asian?

Twid,
realizing that sometimes being here a year and a half still kinda makes you a noob sometimes....
Also thinks Bleacher sounds funny.

I'm glad to see *someone* around here is able to use their brains.

I think we all are, but sometimes the humor doesn't necessarily translate as funny.

I thought it was funny. But if I didn't know you to a degree I might have found it offensive. Maybe because making fun of white people is funny, even if you're white. I dunno, like, in my sphere, other white people make fun of each other for their specific nationality. You even see it here. roger makes fun of me being Irish, Dimo is a fucking guinzo, Nigel's Welsh, that sort of thing. :shrug:

IT TURNS OUT

I AM NOT FUCKING WELSH

HALLELUJAH@!

Oh wait but I'm fucking Orkadian

Dammit Nigel, I feel uncomfortable enough making your certificate WITH the Welsh, and now you have to pull that cracker ass Celtic commonality rug out beneath my feet? FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

I heard the news, and I said to myself, "WHAT THE FUCK IS AN ORKADIAN???"

Turns out it's some assholes the Celts didn't want on their island, so they put them on some even smaller islands. Jesus. Who the hell has ever heard of "The Orkneys"? It sounds like something my cat threw up.

[Lies]

Part of it might be the slavery thing. Us whitens know we dun wrong if only fer th' treason.

We may have had very bad race relations since... well... 1776, but race is inherently part of our history. American history is whites vs everyone else until, I prefer to think the 1960s. But all of us have that in the back of our minds. We had a civil war over slavery based on racism.

Australia, like America, was built on genocide of the original population, partially through disease and partially through design.  Hell, for a long time, the Aborigines were seen as one step above animals (barely), and up until the 1970s, Aboriginal children were being stolen from their families to be raised as wards of the state (an ideology driven by the blatantly racist idea that "half-caste" Aborigines could be "turned white" through subsequent generations of breeding, at least in the 1930s, and by more subtle forms of racism later on).

Hell, just look at the average life expectancy of an Aboriginal compared to a white Australian.  47 years, in some places.  Also, a sociologist I know has found strong correlation between birth mortality rates and official discrimination, and in Australia in 2006, the rate of indigenous infant deaths was 10 out of every 1000, while the non-indigenous rate is 4.4 of every 1000.

Australia has also traditionally feared the "Yellow Peril" and "Asian invasion", frequently passing immigration laws aimed at excluding such groups from the country as much as possible.  They even called it "the White Australia Policy".  The enemy changed every generation or so, Chinese goldminers, invading Japanese (which, to be fair, was a credible threat post 1937), Chinese Communists, Indonesian terrorists etc but there pretty much always has been one, and even though the Whitlam Admin officially abandoned the policy, that Australia still acts in a heavy-handed and totally inappropriate manner when dealing with illegal immigrants and asylum seekers is almost certainly a legacy of this worldview.

WHOOT IM PART OF THE YELLOW PERIL ASIAN INVASION, THAT SHIT SO FUCKING GANGSTA YO

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Honestly, I don't think that Lysergic was trying to offend anyone, obviously since most of us are Bleachers, and I think everyone is part Bleacher at the least (correct me if I'm wrong), but maybe he needed to blow off some steam? Sort of like, tried to go for the lulz, but fell short? I dunno, I'm not a prison colonist.

Also, I thought he was part Native Australian, but he's part Asian?

Twid,
realizing that sometimes being here a year and a half still kinda makes you a noob sometimes....
Also thinks Bleacher sounds funny.

I'm glad to see *someone* around here is able to use their brains.

Here's the big secret: I'M HALF BLEACHER. OH NOES THE SHAME

What's the other half? (genuinely curious at this point)

Also, I am sad to inform you that Americans do actually consider Australia to have a worse problem with racism than we do. FYI.

The other half is filipino.

And I think it's hilarious that Australians consider Americans to be the worst offenders of racism and you guys believe it the other way. The irony is just amazing.

OK.   I am having a hard time believing that you really don't know that Australia is considered the absolute worst of the worst when it comes to treatment of aborigines. As in, movies have been made about it, books have been written, and it's not because of a hideous history, (which is amply shared by the US) it's because the horrible treatment continues to the present day. As, indeed, it also does here, but not to the same ugly degree.

During MY lifetime, Lies, Aboriginal children were still being stolen from their mothers. By the government.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Also you grow facial hair like a woman. Grow a pair so you can get some testosterone in your face follicles.

Yeah, that was an old photo from back when I was bald and in high school. Racism was sarcastic.

Protip:
Don't joke around with that shit here. Just look at what happened to Lies, and he's a darky.

Yeah, the head-shaving was the result of a moment of insanity and the dead look in my eyes is because that photo was taken the day after and the consequences had dawned on me.
Figured the horrible, horrible gratuitous German would tip people off. I'll just go sit in the corner.

EDIT: I was Captain Slack for a while, then I was Doktor Plague, then I was Unqualified. I was always kind of a lurker, partly out of sheer shyness and partly due to everyone always saying what I was going to say before I'd read the thread.

I like you. Post more.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Honestly, I don't think that Lysergic was trying to offend anyone, obviously since most of us are Bleachers, and I think everyone is part Bleacher at the least (correct me if I'm wrong), but maybe he needed to blow off some steam? Sort of like, tried to go for the lulz, but fell short? I dunno, I'm not a prison colonist.

Also, I thought he was part Native Australian, but he's part Asian?

Twid,
realizing that sometimes being here a year and a half still kinda makes you a noob sometimes....
Also thinks Bleacher sounds funny.

I'm glad to see *someone* around here is able to use their brains.

Here's the big secret: I'M HALF BLEACHER. OH NOES THE SHAME

What's the other half? (genuinely curious at this point)

Also, I am sad to inform you that Americans do actually consider Australia to have a worse problem with racism than we do. FYI.

The other half is filipino.

And I think it's hilarious that Australians consider Americans to be the worst offenders of racism and you guys believe it the other way. The irony is just amazing.

Oh, except that the entire rest of the word, including Canada sees Australia as being especially awful, and fuck, as a native, that's saying something.

There's a reason why I want to move to canda. Not the racism thing though. I just think, from the sounds of it, it's a better, saner version of Australia.

But I find it extremely interesting you guys think Australia is inherently racist. Sure, we do have our racists, but you'd be very hard pressed to find one without digging around under a few rocks before you do.

Sure, as long as you pretend the Aborigines don't exist. Everyone else is white as you please and butter don't melt in your mouth.

Are you fucking kidding me? You seriously don't know?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Honestly, I don't think that Lysergic was trying to offend anyone, obviously since most of us are Bleachers, and I think everyone is part Bleacher at the least (correct me if I'm wrong), but maybe he needed to blow off some steam? Sort of like, tried to go for the lulz, but fell short? I dunno, I'm not a prison colonist.

Also, I thought he was part Native Australian, but he's part Asian?

Twid,
realizing that sometimes being here a year and a half still kinda makes you a noob sometimes....
Also thinks Bleacher sounds funny.

I'm glad to see *someone* around here is able to use their brains.

Here's the big secret: I'M HALF BLEACHER. OH NOES THE SHAME

What's the other half? (genuinely curious at this point)

Also, I am sad to inform you that Americans do actually consider Australia to have a worse problem with racism than we do. FYI.

The other half is filipino.

And I think it's hilarious that Australians consider Americans to be the worst offenders of racism and you guys believe it the other way. The irony is just amazing.

Oh, except that the entire rest of the word, including Canada sees Australia as being especially awful, and fuck, as a native, that's saying something.

There's a reason why I want to move to canda. Not the racism thing though. I just think, from the sounds of it, it's a better, saner version of Australia.

But I find it extremely interesting you guys think Australia is inherently racist. Sure, we do have our racists, but you'd be very hard pressed to find one without digging around under a few rocks before you do.

Part of it might be the slavery thing. Us whitens know we dun wrong if only fer th' treason.

We may have had very bad race relations since... well... 1776, but race is inherently part of our history. American history is whites vs everyone else until, I prefer to think the 1960s. But all of us have that in the back of our minds. We had a civil war over slavery based on racism.

It's ongoing, but changing. Race relations here have really shifted just during my lifetime, and even more during my dad's lifetime... when he was a kid there were still "whites only" drinking fountains and businesses. People who think it's a part of our distant past weren't raised by someone who literally grew up with Jim Crow laws... it's present to me every time my dad expresses amazement and the opportunities we HAVE now.



For the  most part, people are conscious of our abysmally racist history, which is a great starting point.

[Cain]

Although, Nigel, you know who else was aware of America's abysmal racial history?

Hitler.