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Started by Cramulus, November 02, 2011, 08:41:07 PM

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The Good Reverend Roger

I kind of had to stop reading at "K-dizzle".

Because my brain started to hurt real bad.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 03, 2011, 06:23:45 PM
I kind of had to stop reading at "K-dizzle".

Because my brain started to hurt real bad.

That's Ok. I posted it for the Lulz.  Sorry about your noggin.  The pain is a sign that thy mind has still got SOME sanity to it.
You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 03, 2011, 06:43:07 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 03, 2011, 06:23:45 PM
I kind of had to stop reading at "K-dizzle".

Because my brain started to hurt real bad.

That's Ok. I posted it for the Lulz.  Sorry about your noggin.  The pain is a sign that thy mind has still got SOME sanity to it.

Well, there were lulz, just a different kind than you were shooting for, I think.

And did you really just use "thy" in casual conversation?  For real?  Are you fucking turning PAGAN on us?  Because if I have to hear faux-archaic speech on THIS fucking board, I am going to lose my shit all over everything.

And we don't want me to lose my shit.  I eat Indian food, you know?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Don Coyote

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 03, 2011, 06:45:09 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 03, 2011, 06:43:07 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 03, 2011, 06:23:45 PM
I kind of had to stop reading at "K-dizzle".

Because my brain started to hurt real bad.

That's Ok. I posted it for the Lulz.  Sorry about your noggin.  The pain is a sign that thy mind has still got SOME sanity to it.

Well, there were lulz, just a different kind than you were shooting for, I think.

And did you really just use "thy" in casual conversation?  For real?  Are you fucking turning PAGAN on us?  Because if I have to hear faux-archaic speech on THIS fucking board, I am going to lose my shit all over everything.

And we don't want me to lose my shit.  I eat Indian food, you know?

Someone hexed his thinking box so now it makes "thy" pop up. :lulz:

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Donald Coyote on November 03, 2011, 06:46:07 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 03, 2011, 06:45:09 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 03, 2011, 06:43:07 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 03, 2011, 06:23:45 PM
I kind of had to stop reading at "K-dizzle".

Because my brain started to hurt real bad.

That's Ok. I posted it for the Lulz.  Sorry about your noggin.  The pain is a sign that thy mind has still got SOME sanity to it.

Well, there were lulz, just a different kind than you were shooting for, I think.

And did you really just use "thy" in casual conversation?  For real?  Are you fucking turning PAGAN on us?  Because if I have to hear faux-archaic speech on THIS fucking board, I am going to lose my shit all over everything.

And we don't want me to lose my shit.  I eat Indian food, you know?

Someone hexed his thinking box so now it makes "thy" pop up. :lulz:

:lulz:

Sure as fuck.  It says "your" in the quote form, but "thy" in display.

ADMIN ABUSE!  SOMEONE DO SOMETHING!
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 03, 2011, 06:47:17 PM
Quote from: Donald Coyote on November 03, 2011, 06:46:07 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 03, 2011, 06:45:09 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 03, 2011, 06:43:07 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 03, 2011, 06:23:45 PM
I kind of had to stop reading at "K-dizzle".

Because my brain started to hurt real bad.

That's Ok. I posted it for the Lulz.  Sorry about your noggin.  The pain is a sign that thy mind has still got SOME sanity to it.

Well, there were lulz, just a different kind than you were shooting for, I think.

And did you really just use "thy" in casual conversation?  For real?  Are you fucking turning PAGAN on us?  Because if I have to hear faux-archaic speech on THIS fucking board, I am going to lose my shit all over everything.

And we don't want me to lose my shit.  I eat Indian food, you know?

Someone hexed his thinking box so now it makes "thy" pop up. :lulz:

:lulz:

Sure as fuck.  It says "your" in the quote form, but "thy" in display.

ADMIN ABUSE!  SOMEONE DO SOMETHING!

:lulz:  I did that one on purpose 'cuz it's funny.. or it was until you told me you could lose your shit over it... that's not funny  :|.
Neither are pagans... easy, pretentious, but NOT funny.

Accusations of admin abuse are funny as hell!  So is the idea of a creationist winning a debate against an ex-creationist.
You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 03, 2011, 06:58:42 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 03, 2011, 06:47:17 PM
Quote from: Donald Coyote on November 03, 2011, 06:46:07 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 03, 2011, 06:45:09 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 03, 2011, 06:43:07 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 03, 2011, 06:23:45 PM
I kind of had to stop reading at "K-dizzle".

Because my brain started to hurt real bad.

That's Ok. I posted it for the Lulz.  Sorry about your noggin.  The pain is a sign that thy mind has still got SOME sanity to it.

Well, there were lulz, just a different kind than you were shooting for, I think.

And did you really just use "thy" in casual conversation?  For real?  Are you fucking turning PAGAN on us?  Because if I have to hear faux-archaic speech on THIS fucking board, I am going to lose my shit all over everything.

And we don't want me to lose my shit.  I eat Indian food, you know?

Someone hexed his thinking box so now it makes "thy" pop up. :lulz:

:lulz:

Sure as fuck.  It says "your" in the quote form, but "thy" in display.

ADMIN ABUSE!  SOMEONE DO SOMETHING!

:lulz:  I did that one on purpose 'cuz it's funny.. or it was until you told me you could lose your shit over it... that's not funny  :|.
Neither are pagans... easy, pretentious, but NOT funny.

Accusations of admin abuse are funny as hell!  So is the idea of a creationist winning a debate against an ex-creationist.


Creationists don't debate.  They legislate.

See:  Kansas, school boards of
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 03, 2011, 06:47:17 PM
Quote from: Donald Coyote on November 03, 2011, 06:46:07 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 03, 2011, 06:45:09 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 03, 2011, 06:43:07 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 03, 2011, 06:23:45 PM
I kind of had to stop reading at "K-dizzle".

Because my brain started to hurt real bad.

That's Ok. I posted it for the Lulz.  Sorry about your noggin.  The pain is a sign that thy mind has still got SOME sanity to it.

Well, there were lulz, just a different kind than you were shooting for, I think.

And did you really just use "thy" in casual conversation?  For real?  Are you fucking turning PAGAN on us?  Because if I have to hear faux-archaic speech on THIS fucking board, I am going to lose my shit all over everything.

And we don't want me to lose my shit.  I eat Indian food, you know?

Someone hexed his thinking box so now it makes "thy" pop up. :lulz:

:lulz:

Sure as fuck.  It says "your" in the quote form, but "thy" in display.

ADMIN ABUSE!  SOMEONE DO SOMETHING!

WE'VE GOT TO STOP ABUSING THE ADMINS IMMEDIATELY

I WILL PM THE MGT ABOUT THIS TERRIBLE ADMIN ABUSE.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Kai

Oh fuck, Cram. No you fucking didn't.

I swear, I'll PM the fucking management and 'mark all as read', just you wait.  :argh!:
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

Her Royal Majesty's Chief of Insect Genitalia Dissection
Grand Visser of the Six Legged Class
Chanticleer of the Holometabola Clade Church, Diptera Parish

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: 'Kai' ZLB, M.S. on November 04, 2011, 12:03:11 AM
Oh fuck, Cram. No you fucking didn't.

I swear, I'll PM the fucking management and 'mark all as read', just you wait.  :argh!:

THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT HAPPENS WHEN DAWKINS ATHEISTS ARE ALLOWED TO DEBATE CREATIONISTS.

Seriously, though, these are two groups of people who are almost 100% stupid, douchey, or a combination of the two. It doesn't matter who wins, you end up cringing and laughing either way. It couldn't get any better, except maybe by adding Libertarians and Anarchists and having them square off in a tag-team cage fight to the death.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Kai

Quote from: Nigel on November 04, 2011, 12:19:23 AM
Quote from: 'Kai' ZLB, M.S. on November 04, 2011, 12:03:11 AM
Oh fuck, Cram. No you fucking didn't.

I swear, I'll PM the fucking management and 'mark all as read', just you wait.  :argh!:

THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT HAPPENS WHEN DAWKINS ATHEISTS ARE ALLOWED TO DEBATE CREATIONISTS.

Seriously, though, these are two groups of people who are almost 100% stupid, douchey, or a combination of the two. It doesn't matter who wins, you end up cringing and laughing either way. It couldn't get any better, except maybe by adding Libertarians and Anarchists and having them square off in a tag-team cage fight to the death.

I gained back a little respect for PZ Myers when he said he wasn't going to 'debate' creationists of any kind for any reason anymore, because it's fucking stupid.

But we've already decided that Dawkins deserves a fallacy named after him, so I don't think there's much more to say.
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

Her Royal Majesty's Chief of Insect Genitalia Dissection
Grand Visser of the Six Legged Class
Chanticleer of the Holometabola Clade Church, Diptera Parish

Phox

Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2011, 09:00:46 PM
Atheist OWNED by a Christian 5 - quick summary:
Atheist Statement: academics believe that Christianity was influenced by other religious beliefs from earlier eras.
Q: Oh yeah? When was there a concept of a dying/resurrecting god prior to Jesus? Where's the evidence?
A: One example would be Dionysus.
Q: hahaha but what's the DATE? When did it happen?
A: Well, we've got vase paintings depicting Dionysian mythology going wayyyy back in time.
Response: Uhhh you  missed the point of the question. I'm not asking about vases, I'm asking about resurrection. When was Dionysus resurrected???

:169:
Osiris: First attestation ~ 2400 BCE.  :lulz:


I win this game.


Kai

Quote from: Doktor Phox on November 04, 2011, 12:25:19 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2011, 09:00:46 PM
Atheist OWNED by a Christian 5 - quick summary:
Atheist Statement: academics believe that Christianity was influenced by other religious beliefs from earlier eras.
Q: Oh yeah? When was there a concept of a dying/resurrecting god prior to Jesus? Where's the evidence?
A: One example would be Dionysus.
Q: hahaha but what's the DATE? When did it happen?
A: Well, we've got vase paintings depicting Dionysian mythology going wayyyy back in time.
Response: Uhhh you  missed the point of the question. I'm not asking about vases, I'm asking about resurrection. When was Dionysus resurrected???

:169:
Osiris: First attestation ~ 2400 BCE.  :lulz:


I win this game.



But it probably started much earlier, centered around deities that died and resurrected according to the seasons. I mean, the whole resurrection deity idea goes part and parcel with the human fear and facination of transformation; it's probably as old as religion.

But what's really interesting to me (and what I was talking about when I came to visit) is how the Greek gospels really make Jesus out to be a Greek hero in the old tradition of Homer. I mean, all the elements: divine parentage and special circumstances of birth, fighting with monsters (the 40 days in the desert with Satan, the driving off of Legion), the production of miracles that show his lineage, and the trip to and return from the underworld. If Jesus was a character of Homer, he would have been considered one of the greatest heroes, right up there with Odysseus in terms of popularity. Even the particular framing of each vignette in Matthew is something right out of a Greek epic, or at least the more 'modern' equivalent.
If there is magic on this planet, it is contained in water. --Loren Eisley, The Immense Journey

Her Royal Majesty's Chief of Insect Genitalia Dissection
Grand Visser of the Six Legged Class
Chanticleer of the Holometabola Clade Church, Diptera Parish

Phox

Quote from: 'Kai' ZLB, M.S. on November 04, 2011, 12:35:20 AM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on November 04, 2011, 12:25:19 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on November 02, 2011, 09:00:46 PM
Atheist OWNED by a Christian 5 - quick summary:
Atheist Statement: academics believe that Christianity was influenced by other religious beliefs from earlier eras.
Q: Oh yeah? When was there a concept of a dying/resurrecting god prior to Jesus? Where's the evidence?
A: One example would be Dionysus.
Q: hahaha but what's the DATE? When did it happen?
A: Well, we've got vase paintings depicting Dionysian mythology going wayyyy back in time.
Response: Uhhh you  missed the point of the question. I'm not asking about vases, I'm asking about resurrection. When was Dionysus resurrected???

:169:
Osiris: First attestation ~ 2400 BCE.  :lulz:


I win this game.



But it probably started much earlier, centered around deities that died and resurrected according to the seasons. I mean, the whole resurrection deity idea goes part and parcel with the human fear and facination of transformation; it's probably as old as religion.

But what's really interesting to me (and what I was talking about when I came to visit) is how the Greek gospels really make Jesus out to be a Greek hero in the old tradition of Homer. I mean, all the elements: divine parentage and special circumstances of birth, fighting with monsters (the 40 days in the desert with Satan, the driving off of Legion), the production of miracles that show his lineage, and the trip to and return from the underworld. If Jesus was a character of Homer, he would have been considered one of the greatest heroes, right up there with Odysseus in terms of popularity. Even the particular framing of each vignette in Matthew is something right out of a Greek epic, or at least the more 'modern' equivalent.

Certainly correct, but the fellow in the video was asking for a resurrection deity that predates Jesus. Osiris is the oldest I can think of off-hand.

And you're absolutely correct about Jesus as a Greek hero, as we have discussed before.  :lulz: