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[Cain]

New front in Alaska.

http://www.themudflats.net/2012/03/20/help-help-theres-an-elephant-in-my-uterus/

f you're not fully convinced yet that Alaska is the next front in the GOP's war on women, you just have to listen to State Rep. Alan Dick. He said that he doesn't believe that when a woman is pregnant, it's really "her pregnancy." As a matter of fact, he would advocate for criminalizing women who have an abortion without the permission via written signature from the man who impregnated her. He stated, "If I thought that the man's signature was required... required, in order for a woman to have an abortion, I'd have a little more peace about it..."

I give this a week before it becomes proposed legislation.

[Doktor Howl]

I give it half that much time before Arizona Jan Brewer and Debbie Lesko write a bill over it.

This is nothing new, by the way.  This "argument" has been used since Roe v Wade.

These fucking cavemen would be funny, if only they were funny.  It's like looking at a slightly retarded medieval lordling explaining why women shouldn't be able to own property.

[Cain]

They're only hurting themselves in the long run with this kind of thing.  Women voters are utterly disguted with this apparently spontaneous outbreak of rampant, nation-wide misogyny...and relying on the bitter, white, male vote is not going to translate in election victory anywhere outside of Tennessee...maybe.

Of course, that still gives them significant time to inflict serious obstacles to women's reproductive rights before an electoral correction, which is...not good.

Is anyone running a book on the first Democrat to try and justify this, incidentally?  I've been impressed with their opposition thus far, but come on, we all know the Democrats don't have spines or principles.  It wont last.

[Doktor Howl]

They're only hurting themselves in the long run with this kind of thing.  Women voters are utterly disguted with this apparently spontaneous outbreak of rampant, nation-wide misogyny...and relying on the bitter, white, male vote is not going to translate in election victory anywhere outside of Tennessee...maybe.

Of course, that still gives them significant time to inflict serious obstacles to women's reproductive rights before an electoral correction, which is...not good.

Is anyone running a book on the first Democrat to try and justify this, incidentally?  I've been impressed with their opposition thus far, but come on, we all know the Democrats don't have spines or principles.  It wont last.

In some states, this sort of thing does indeed fly.  Tennessee, Arizona, Florida, maybe Georgia.  But in the larger scheme of things, this is a case of the teabagger yahoos having to out-extremist each other to get the nomination for their seat.  Well, that and the fact that some of them ARE dumb enough to think that this sort of shit is actually acceptable anywhere, and that "people are finally coming to their senses".

Right now, women are the most important voter & consumer group...But that doesn't mean they'll reject this sort of shit, at least not in Alaska.  Certainly not in Northern Arizona.  We'll just have to wait and see how far they can be pushed by yahoos like this.

[Cain]

I would ask if we have reached "Peak Wingnut", at long last, but I remember John Cole asked this question way back in 2008, and what happened next.

So I'm not.  Though I'm going to hope it, silently, inside my own head.

[Doktor Howl]

I would ask if we have reached "Peak Wingnut", at long last, but I remember John Cole asked this question way back in 2008, and what happened next.

So I'm not.  Though I'm going to hope it, silently, inside my own head.

My guess is that we'll hit peak from November 2012 to June 2013, no matter who wins the various elections.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

This kind of shit affects everybody, I'm sure there's a lot of guys who don't like the idea of having their wages garnished for 18 years over a busted condom. I mean, what if they can't be tracked down in time to sign the damn thing?

[Doktor Howl]

This kind of shit affects everybody, I'm sure there's a lot of guys who don't like the idea of having their wages garnished for 18 years over a busted condom. I mean, what if they can't be tracked down in time to sign the damn thing?

Well, that's not really the point.  The point is, I wouldn't like to be told what I can and cannot do with my body, and therefore I don't believe that women should be held accountable to men for what they do with their bodies.

This isn't about abortion.  It's about returning women to second class status.

[Cain]

In the exact words of Corey Robin, conservatism is about "defending and restoring privilege against democratic rule".

Limiting abortion makes women more dependent on men, and thus serves that purpose very well, even if they are not explicitly conscious of the linkage and reasoning behind the stance.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

This kind of shit affects everybody, I'm sure there's a lot of guys who don't like the idea of having their wages garnished for 18 years over a busted condom. I mean, what if they can't be tracked down in time to sign the damn thing?

Well, that's not really the point.  The point is, I wouldn't like to be told what I can and cannot do with my body, and therefore I don't believe that women should be held accountable to men for what they do with their bodies.

This isn't about abortion.  It's about returning women to second class status.

Yes, it is.

Just saying it would bite a bunch of men in the ass a lot faster than the usual smash-the-rights-of-(insert group here) stuff usually takes to affect people who aren't members of the disenfranchised group.

[Doktor Howl]

This kind of shit affects everybody, I'm sure there's a lot of guys who don't like the idea of having their wages garnished for 18 years over a busted condom. I mean, what if they can't be tracked down in time to sign the damn thing?

Well, that's not really the point.  The point is, I wouldn't like to be told what I can and cannot do with my body, and therefore I don't believe that women should be held accountable to men for what they do with their bodies.

This isn't about abortion.  It's about returning women to second class status.

Yes, it is.

Just saying it would bite a bunch of men in the ass a lot faster than the usual smash-the-rights-of-(insert group here) stuff usually takes to affect people who aren't members of the disenfranchised group.

ALL of these things bite EVERYONE on the ass, in my opinion.  The moment one person's rights are compromised, then everyones' rights become mere privilege.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

This kind of shit affects everybody, I'm sure there's a lot of guys who don't like the idea of having their wages garnished for 18 years over a busted condom. I mean, what if they can't be tracked down in time to sign the damn thing?

Well, that's not really the point.  The point is, I wouldn't like to be told what I can and cannot do with my body, and therefore I don't believe that women should be held accountable to men for what they do with their bodies.

This isn't about abortion.  It's about returning women to second class status.

Yes, it is.

Just saying it would bite a bunch of men in the ass a lot faster than the usual smash-the-rights-of-(insert group here) stuff usually takes to affect people who aren't members of the disenfranchised group.

ALL of these things bite EVERYONE on the ass, in my opinion.  The moment one person's rights are compromised, then everyones' rights become mere privilege.

Truth.

Funny how people will clamor for a nazi fiefdom clusterfuck.

[Reginald Ret]

It sounds like the world(This growing misogeny is not just a USA thing) needs a fertility god taking credit for every impregnation ever. And consequently and preemptively signing all those abominationable permission slips.
I propose some mix between Chuck Norris, Ron jeremy, various old fertility gods but of course mostly the glorious generalissimo Enrico Salazar.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

It sounds like the world(This growing misogeny is not just a USA thing) needs a fertility god taking credit for every impregnation ever. And consequently and preemptively signing all those abominationable permission slips.
I propose some mix between Chuck Norris, Ron jeremy, various old fertility gods but of course mostly the glorious generalissimo Enrico Salazar.

Needs George Zimmer and GIGGLES.

[Prince Glittersnatch III]

It sounds like the world(This growing misogeny is not just a USA thing) needs a fertility god taking credit for every impregnation ever. And consequently and preemptively signing all those abominationable permission slips.
I propose some mix between Chuck Norris, Ron jeremy, various old fertility gods but of course mostly the glorious generalissimo Enrico Salazar.

The Fertility God is a hermaphroditic Ron Jeremy with penises for nipples and Enrico's fire breathing head on the tip of its 18 inch spike lined member.