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Started by Salty, September 09, 2012, 04:09:50 AM

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Juana

#105
September 10, 2012, 10:06:31 PM
Ooooh. That. That's not "you can't understand via parallel experiences". It's a semantic difference between empathetic experience (parallel/compassion) and sympathetic experience (lived experience).
The words kind of got muddled around, flip flopped for each other, etc. but that was the gist of what she meant, I believe.
"I dispose of obsolete meat machines.  Not because I hate them (I do) and not because they deserve it (they do), but because they are in the way and those older ones don't meet emissions codes.  They emit too much.  You don't like them and I don't like them, so spare me the hysteria."

The Good Reverend Roger

#106
September 10, 2012, 10:07:18 PM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on September 10, 2012, 10:06:31 PM
Ooooh. That. That's not "you can't understand via parallel experiences". It's a semantic difference between empathetic experience (parallel/compassion) and sympathetic experience (lived experience).
The words kind of got muddled around, flip flopped for each other, etc. but that was the gist of what she meant, I believe.

So, all of this has been over semantics? 
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#107
September 10, 2012, 10:08:52 PM
Ain't that just the way it goes?   :lulz:

Confusion over terms + shit stirring from SP & SP, and here we are.

OUTFUCKINGSTANDING!
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Freeky

#108
September 10, 2012, 10:10:50 PM
Wow. I don't even.

The Good Reverend Roger

#109
September 10, 2012, 10:11:05 PM
I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE THAT HELPED MAKE THIS POSSIBLE.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Juana

#110
September 10, 2012, 10:11:29 PM
On a purely technical level, it's semantics. There's a valid distinction between them (which we've rehashed a lot and I don't think it would be productive to revive the conversation), so it's semantics in "meaning of the word" rather than "quibbling".
"I dispose of obsolete meat machines.  Not because I hate them (I do) and not because they deserve it (they do), but because they are in the way and those older ones don't meet emissions codes.  They emit too much.  You don't like them and I don't like them, so spare me the hysteria."

The Good Reverend Roger

#111
September 10, 2012, 10:14:26 PM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on September 10, 2012, 10:11:29 PM
On a purely technical level. There's a valid distinction between them (which we've rehashed a lot and I don't think it would be productive to revive the conversation), so it's semantics in "meaning of the word" rather than "quibbling".

Doesn't matter.  This subject has been an unmitigated fucking disaster for me, and I suspect for others, because it was far more important to SHOW US WHAT'S WHAT than actually communicate A) the problem, and B) any potential solutions.

I have officially stopped trying to make sense of it, or of giving a shit in any sense whatsoever.

You guys fix the world.  I no longer have any interest in it.

Venomously yours,
Some Dead Fucker
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

tyrannosaurus vex

#112
September 10, 2012, 10:34:17 PM
Evil and Unfeeling Arse-Flenser From The City of the Damned.

Anna Mae Bollocks

#113
September 10, 2012, 10:35:31 PM
Quote from: Some Dead Guy on September 10, 2012, 09:18:38 PM
Quote from: Some Dead Guy on September 10, 2012, 06:59:48 PM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on September 10, 2012, 06:58:08 PM
That is the most awkward replacement ever. :lulz: The appeal to compassion as a way to understand is exactly what Nigel, SP, myself, and a couple others, have been saying for threads.

That is most emphatically NOT what SP said.  I was there.

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,32979.450.html

Starting with reply 460.

It's amazing that the thread went directly to shit from that point, isn't it?

Quote from: SPMen who come into feminist spaces should not immediately expect, nor feel entitled to, the blind faith or trust that they will be a Good Male Feminist* from the get-go.

Did anybody else flash on the expression "He's one of the good ones" in refererence to old-time Black people who had to grin and shuffle and answer everything "Yassuh" and "Yassum"?

Does "good" here mean "sufficiently cowed"?

Because that's EXACTLY the impression I got. "Bow and scrape enough and MAYBE we'll let you work in the house and not in the field."  :x




Scantily-Clad Inspector of Gigantic and Unnecessary Cashews, Texas Division

The Good Reverend Roger

#114
September 10, 2012, 10:53:22 PM
Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on September 10, 2012, 10:35:31 PM
Quote from: Some Dead Guy on September 10, 2012, 09:18:38 PM
Quote from: Some Dead Guy on September 10, 2012, 06:59:48 PM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on September 10, 2012, 06:58:08 PM
That is the most awkward replacement ever. :lulz: The appeal to compassion as a way to understand is exactly what Nigel, SP, myself, and a couple others, have been saying for threads.

That is most emphatically NOT what SP said.  I was there.

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,32979.450.html

Starting with reply 460.

It's amazing that the thread went directly to shit from that point, isn't it?

Quote from: SPMen who come into feminist spaces should not immediately expect, nor feel entitled to, the blind faith or trust that they will be a Good Male Feminist* from the get-go.

Did anybody else flash on the expression "He's one of the good ones" in refererence to old-time Black people who had to grin and shuffle and answer everything "Yassuh" and "Yassum"?

Does "good" here mean "sufficiently cowed"?

Because that's EXACTLY the impression I got. "Bow and scrape enough and MAYBE we'll let you work in the house and not in the field."  :x

No argument here.

And apparently, all of this has made a few people uncomfortable.  Good.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Salty

#115
September 11, 2012, 12:09:32 AM Last Edit: September 11, 2012, 12:29:57 AM by Alty
This thread is dildos.

:piss:
^^^OP in action.

Reactions to this thread in no particular order:

I don't actually give a fuck.

Yes, I'm quite aware of that and you have no idea how hard my irony-sense is tingling.

Well, let me do you the favor of ensuring you never have to. Call it the final act of friendship.

Jesus Fucking Christ.

Think of it as selling the baby on the black market to get a hot tub instead.

:dok:
The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

The Good Reverend Roger

#116
September 11, 2012, 01:30:27 AM
Quote from: Some Dead Guy on September 10, 2012, 10:14:26 PM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on September 10, 2012, 10:11:29 PM
On a purely technical level. There's a valid distinction between them (which we've rehashed a lot and I don't think it would be productive to revive the conversation), so it's semantics in "meaning of the word" rather than "quibbling".

Doesn't matter.  This subject has been an unmitigated fucking disaster for me, and I suspect for others, because it was far more important to SHOW US WHAT'S WHAT than actually communicate A) the problem, and B) any potential solutions.

I have officially stopped trying to make sense of it, or of giving a shit in any sense whatsoever.

You guys fix the world.  I no longer have any interest in it.

Venomously yours,
Some Dead Fucker

Okay, the bolded part was rage.  Retracted. 
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

#117
September 11, 2012, 01:31:26 AM
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

East Coast Hustle

#118
September 11, 2012, 05:50:18 AM
For what it's worth, SP apologized to me for her comment to me that ended up being such a large part of the shit-stirring. It's not my place to explain her position to the board at large, but I will say that I found her apology more than satisfactory and her reasons for acting how she acted completely understandable (and something I have been guilty of myself on more than one occasion). I have literally not one single hard feeling towards her, and a fair amount of respect for her being the one to decide to reach out and try to end the cycle of "OOK OOK!"

Y'all can make of that what you will.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

The Good Reverend Roger

#119
September 11, 2012, 02:21:21 PM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on September 11, 2012, 05:50:18 AM
For what it's worth, SP apologized to me for her comment to me that ended up being such a large part of the shit-stirring. It's not my place to explain her position to the board at large, but I will say that I found her apology more than satisfactory and her reasons for acting how she acted completely understandable (and something I have been guilty of myself on more than one occasion). I have literally not one single hard feeling towards her, and a fair amount of respect for her being the one to decide to reach out and try to end the cycle of "OOK OOK!"

Y'all can make of that what you will.

I must have missed that.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.
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