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Started by AFK, January 20, 2013, 12:56:35 AM

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AFK

Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 24, 2013, 12:48:19 AM
Over a few fucking guns.  Wow.

Yep.  Or over free speech, or freedom of the press, or the right not to have troops quartered in my home, or the right to a trial.

As I said, it's a matter of principle.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

AFK

It's a principle, when held to that degree, that, in the end, costs lives.  I just can't subscribe to that.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 24, 2013, 01:12:34 AM
It's a principle, when held to that degree, that, in the end, costs lives.  I just can't subscribe to that.

Everything costs lives.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

AFK

And that doesn't mean I'm some freedom hating scum bag.  Freedom is an important value for any society to have.  However, the reality is that we are a society, a community, and I've explained this in the drug threads.  By definition, if we are goong to agree to live in communities, in soceities, there is absolutely no way that can happen in a way where we have absolute, unchecked freedom.  We have to give ground to coexist.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

AFK

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 24, 2013, 01:20:36 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 24, 2013, 01:12:34 AM
It's a principle, when held to that degree, that, in the end, costs lives.  I just can't subscribe to that.

Everything costs lives.


Some things cost a lot more.  Progress being arrested for academic idealism, in this case, is one of them.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

AFK

But, in the end, I don't think you have to worry.  There is clearly a strong coalition between the conservatives and gun-owning liberals/democrats to ensure that there is no change whatsoever.  Obama and Biden will talk some talk but it will be dead on arrival.  Hooray!
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 24, 2013, 01:22:54 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 24, 2013, 01:20:36 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 24, 2013, 01:12:34 AM
It's a principle, when held to that degree, that, in the end, costs lives.  I just can't subscribe to that.

Everything costs lives.


Some things cost a lot more.  Progress being arrested for academic idealism, in this case, is one of them.

The very idea that liberty is "academic idealism" is pretty pathetic.  Doesn't matter which right you're talking about.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 24, 2013, 01:36:12 AM
But, in the end, I don't think you have to worry.  There is clearly a strong coalition between the conservatives and gun-owning liberals/democrats to ensure that there is no change whatsoever.  Obama and Biden will talk some talk but it will be dead on arrival.  Hooray!

I'm not worried.  I'm more worried about the assholes chiseling away at amendment I, IV, V, VI, VIII, IX, and X.  They're actually making progress (in a very negative way), rather than just screeching whatever the latest CNN/Fox atrocity hype came on last.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

AFK

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 24, 2013, 01:40:15 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 24, 2013, 01:22:54 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 24, 2013, 01:20:36 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 24, 2013, 01:12:34 AM
It's a principle, when held to that degree, that, in the end, costs lives.  I just can't subscribe to that.

Everything costs lives.


Some things cost a lot more.  Progress being arrested for academic idealism, in this case, is one of them.

The very idea that liberty is "academic idealism" is pretty pathetic.  Doesn't matter which right you're talking about.


It is when you divorce it from the reality that is on the ground.  In this case, that reality being that a few guns off of the market doesn't keep people from being able to bear arms but can contribute to smaller death tolls, therefore, saving lives.  Liberty is still well intact. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 24, 2013, 02:03:46 AM


It is when you divorce it from the reality that is on the ground.


Yeah, that's the voice of expedience, all right.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

East Coast Hustle

RWHN should have been born as an ant. Their social structure seems more his speed.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Anna Mae Bollocks

"IF IT SAVES ONE CHILD FROM GETTING HIGH SHOT SOMETHING-OR-OTHER IT'S WORTH EVERYBODY LIVING IN A HORRIBLE DYSTOPIAN FASCIST POLICE STATE"
          /
:retard:  <-----RWHN
Scantily-Clad Inspector of Gigantic and Unnecessary Cashews, Texas Division

East Coast Hustle

He seems to miss the irony of accusing everybody else of "having religion" over these sorts of subjects as he prattles on about all the rights we shouldn't have in the name of THE CHILDREN.

I mean, sorry bro, but I'm not required to give two shits about children and neither is anybody else.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

AFK

Quote from: Wuli Fufu on January 24, 2013, 02:26:05 AM
"IF IT SAVES ONE CHILD FROM GETTING HIGH SHOT SOMETHING-OR-OTHER IT'S WORTH EVERYBODY LIVING IN A HORRIBLE DYSTOPIAN FASCIST POLICE STATE"
          /
:retard:  <-----RWHN


See?  This is precisely what I'm talking about and it makes you sound like a fucking idiot.  Having a few less options for purchasing a gun does not make a "fascist police state", that's just an incredibly assinine statement to make. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.