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Started by LMNO, April 15, 2013, 08:19:14 PM

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No Miranda Rights for Bombing Suspect
QuoteWASHINGTON -- A Justice Department official says the Boston Marathon bombing suspect will not be read his Miranda rights because the government is invoking a public safety exception.

That official and a second person briefed on the investigation says 19-year-old Dzhokhar Tsarnaev will be questioned by a special interrogation team for high-value suspects. The officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to disclose the information publicly.

The public safety exception permits law enforcement officials to engage in a limited and focused unwarned interrogation of a suspect and allows the government to introduce the statement as evidence in court. The public safety exception is triggered when police officers have an objectively reasonable need to protect the police or the public from immediate danger.
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And the people want MORE MORE MORE

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WANT IT HARDER? HARDER? OH YEAH!
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Cain

Timothy McVeigh killed 168 people and injured over 800 more.  Yet he faced full due process under the law.

I can only assume that Tsarnaev is even more dangerous that McVeigh because of, uh, implied Muslimism.

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Quote from: V3X on April 20, 2013, 06:34:55 PM
No Miranda Rights for Bombing Suspect
QuoteWASHINGTON -- A Justice Department official says the Boston Marathon bombing suspect will not be read his Miranda rights because the government is invoking a public safety exception.

That official and a second person briefed on the investigation says 19-year-old Dzhokhar Tsarnaev will be questioned by a special interrogation team for high-value suspects. The officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to disclose the information publicly.

The public safety exception permits law enforcement officials to engage in a limited and focused unwarned interrogation of a suspect and allows the government to introduce the statement as evidence in court. The public safety exception is triggered when police officers have an objectively reasonable need to protect the police or the public from immediate danger.
Source

And the people want MORE MORE MORE

OH YEAH YOU LIKE THAT, HUH? TELL ME HOW MUCH YOU LIKE IT!
WANT IT HARDER? HARDER? OH YEAH!
    \


I really think this is a bullshit 'exception'. The potential for abuse is enormous and I'm not seeing a particular benefit. It makes my skin crawl.
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Junkenstein

Could the be working under the assumption there are more devices to be found?

"Special Interrogation team" just sounds like "most creative CIA guy we had handy". I can't think how else this could be justified. The eventual defence lawyer will have fun with this too I'm sure.
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Suu

Not sure how I feel about this.  :|
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tyrannosaurus vex

Quote from: Suu on April 20, 2013, 06:58:45 PM
Not sure how I feel about this.  :|

Me either. On one hand fuck this guy, and on the other hand shouldn't a nation's founding principles of consistent rule of law be in effect ESPECIALLY when it is inconvenient?

Yeah maybe I will side with everyone on FB and go wit "fuck that guy" being more important .
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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: V3X on April 20, 2013, 07:03:46 PM
Quote from: Suu on April 20, 2013, 06:58:45 PM
Not sure how I feel about this.  :|

Me either. On one hand fuck this guy, and on the other hand shouldn't a nation's founding principles of consistent rule of law be in effect ESPECIALLY when it is inconvenient?

Yeah maybe I will side with everyone on FB and go wit "fuck that guy" being more important .

Laws are for protection of the people
Rules are rules, and anyone can see
We don't need no hairy-headed Chechens
Scaring decent folks like you and me.
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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 20, 2013, 07:06:34 PM
Quote from: V3X on April 20, 2013, 07:03:46 PM
Quote from: Suu on April 20, 2013, 06:58:45 PM
Not sure how I feel about this.  :|

Me either. On one hand fuck this guy, and on the other hand shouldn't a nation's founding principles of consistent rule of law be in effect ESPECIALLY when it is inconvenient?

Yeah maybe I will side with everyone on FB and go wit "fuck that guy" being more important .

Laws are for protection of the people
Rules are rules, and anyone can see
We don't need no hairy-headed Chechens
Scaring decent folks like you and me.

Something something Kunstler said about making sure the Attica guys got a fair trial even though he hated what they did, something something.
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Junkenstein

I would suggest that it's in times like this it's more important to see everything done according to correct procedure.

"Fuck this guy" becomes "Fuck those guys" easily. That's never a good road.
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tyrannosaurus vex

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 20, 2013, 07:06:34 PM
Quote from: V3X on April 20, 2013, 07:03:46 PM
Quote from: Suu on April 20, 2013, 06:58:45 PM
Not sure how I feel about this.  :|

Me either. On one hand fuck this guy, and on the other hand shouldn't a nation's founding principles of consistent rule of law be in effect ESPECIALLY when it is inconvenient?

Yeah maybe I will side with everyone on FB and go wit "fuck that guy" being more important .

Laws are for protection of the people
Rules are rules, and anyone can see
We don't need no hairy-headed Chechens
Scaring decent folks like you and me.

Seriously.

But don't worry, I'm sure this won't become standard procedure every time some 6th grader bites a Pop-Tart into the shape of an explosion, or anything. It isn't like there's a history of "exceptions" like this quickly becoming the rule.

I'm pretty sure there's a guy on my block with Chechen ancestry, and I would probably be remiss in my duties not to let the authorities know about him. Just in case.
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Cain

Given every other domestic American terrorist has been read their Miranda rights, the only assumption is that this case is special because of the religious and/or ethnic background of Tsarnaev. 

IOW, legalised discrimination.  Yay!

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: V3X on April 20, 2013, 07:14:58 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on April 20, 2013, 07:06:34 PM
Quote from: V3X on April 20, 2013, 07:03:46 PM
Quote from: Suu on April 20, 2013, 06:58:45 PM
Not sure how I feel about this.  :|

Me either. On one hand fuck this guy, and on the other hand shouldn't a nation's founding principles of consistent rule of law be in effect ESPECIALLY when it is inconvenient?

Yeah maybe I will side with everyone on FB and go wit "fuck that guy" being more important .

Laws are for protection of the people
Rules are rules, and anyone can see
We don't need no hairy-headed Chechens
Scaring decent folks like you and me.

Seriously.

But don't worry, I'm sure this won't become standard procedure every time some 6th grader bites a Pop-Tart into the shape of an explosion, or anything. It isn't like there's a history of "exceptions" like this quickly becoming the rule.

I'm pretty sure there's a guy on my block with Chechen ancestry, and I would probably be remiss in my duties not to let the authorities know about him. Just in case.

I'em reasonably certain these things never, ever get out of hand.  But I can't say that for sure, because I can't catch up with America.  It's running too fast, and it's just this speck up the road, near the horizon.  It's gone too far, and I can't even remember what it looks like anymore.  Somewhere between rotary phones and ARPANET it started sprinting, and I am no gazelle.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

Quote from: Cain on April 20, 2013, 06:46:52 PM
Timothy McVeigh killed 168 people and injured over 800 more.  Yet he faced full due process under the law.

I can only assume that Tsarnaev is even more dangerous that McVeigh because of, uh, implied Muslimism.

Yoinking. With attribution.

Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on April 20, 2013, 07:24:07 PM
Quote from: Cain on April 20, 2013, 06:46:52 PM
Timothy McVeigh killed 168 people and injured over 800 more.  Yet he faced full due process under the law.

I can only assume that Tsarnaev is even more dangerous that McVeigh because of, uh, implied Muslimism.

Yoinking. With attribution.

As am I.
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