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Started by Doktor Howl, August 09, 2013, 03:10:03 PM

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 12, 2013, 08:31:56 PM

I plan to.  That looks AWESOME.

Dok,
Off to upcycle some used condoms.

Make them into cat sweaters. People love that sort of thing.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: The End on August 12, 2013, 08:31:24 PM
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All other qualifications being equal between two candidates, I absolutely would want the person without the history of driving impaired. 


I mean, think about it, you hire the guy, he comes to work impaired, kills another employee with the forklift.  You think the family might scream for your head if they knew you hired a guy with that known history?

You do understand what the word never means right?


Do you understand the meaning of the word risk?

You mean a word that you totally didn't use?


Sorry, my mistake for assuming everyone understands a fairly basic business concept.

Well, sure, but what if the person has never driven impaired either, like what Dok said? You're making a bit of an assumption there.

Maybe all the substance abusers in Maine just happen to love driving under the influence and that's how they get sent to rehab. That's not a given everywhere though.
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Doktor Howl

Quote from: YOUR Social Science Thinkmonkey on August 12, 2013, 08:34:50 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 12, 2013, 08:31:56 PM

I plan to.  That looks AWESOME.

Dok,
Off to upcycle some used condoms.

Make them into cat sweaters. People love that sort of thing.

I was thinking those toilet seat shaped pillows people use on airplanes.  NOW INFLATABLE!
Molon Lube

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 12, 2013, 08:32:32 PM
Quote from: YOUR Social Science Thinkmonkey on August 12, 2013, 08:32:03 PM
It's basically taking an old thing, improving it or using it to make something nice, and then reinjecting it into the consumer cycle upstream of where it came out, rather than downstream. I know several people who make good livings in salvage and restoration, but then, of course, there is the mommy blogger craft version.

Or worse.  muhaha

I could see you becoming King Crafter on Etsy.  :lulz: That would be AMAZING.

DON'T QUESTION MY ART!  :argh!:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Nephew Twiddleton

Also, I don't imagine most substance abusers won't wait until after work to get fucked up.
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Doktor Howl

Quote from: YOUR Social Science Thinkmonkey on August 12, 2013, 08:36:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 12, 2013, 08:32:32 PM
Quote from: YOUR Social Science Thinkmonkey on August 12, 2013, 08:32:03 PM
It's basically taking an old thing, improving it or using it to make something nice, and then reinjecting it into the consumer cycle upstream of where it came out, rather than downstream. I know several people who make good livings in salvage and restoration, but then, of course, there is the mommy blogger craft version.

Or worse.  muhaha

I could see you becoming King Crafter on Etsy.  :lulz: That would be AMAZING.

DON'T QUESTION MY ART!  :argh!:

It's not art if nobody suffers.   :lulz:
Molon Lube

AFK

Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 12, 2013, 08:33:43 PM
So, basically, "diversion" means the kid (or adult) doesn't go to jail...YET.  The person simply cannot get a decent job ever again, which means poverty, which means prison.

How socially conscious.  How protective.

:lulz:


As I explained before, it's going to depend on the crime, and it varies state by state. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

tyrannosaurus vex

YOU GUYS ARE TOTALLY JUST MAKING AN ISSUE WHERE THERE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ONE

ALL OF THIS WOULD BE COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT IF PEOPLE WOULD JUST DO WHAT RWHN TELLS THEM TO DO IN THE FIRST PLACE, YOU KNOW.

RWHN is the GOOD GUY here. He's just trying SAVE PEOPLE from the CONSEQUENCES OF NOT DOING AS THEY'RE TOLD.
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Doktor Howl

Quote from: The End on August 12, 2013, 08:37:52 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 12, 2013, 08:33:43 PM
So, basically, "diversion" means the kid (or adult) doesn't go to jail...YET.  The person simply cannot get a decent job ever again, which means poverty, which means prison.

How socially conscious.  How protective.

:lulz:


As I explained before, it's going to depend on the crime, and it varies state by state.

Yep.  And the ceiling for these kids will be, what, making fries?
Molon Lube

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 12, 2013, 08:33:43 PM
So, basically, "diversion" means the kid (or adult) doesn't go to jail...YET.  The person simply cannot get a decent job ever again, which means poverty, which means prison.

How socially conscious.  How protective.

:lulz:

It's how bureaucrats ensure a large pool of underemployable serfs, which they largely used to scare the dwindling middle-class and keep the money flowing into the prison system and all the corporations that benefit from the prison system. It's also, largely, where the soldier class comes from; the impoverished but bright children who see the military as a way out of the cycle of crime, discrimination, and imprisonment.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Doktor Howl

Quote from: YOUR Social Science Thinkmonkey on August 12, 2013, 08:39:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 12, 2013, 08:33:43 PM
So, basically, "diversion" means the kid (or adult) doesn't go to jail...YET.  The person simply cannot get a decent job ever again, which means poverty, which means prison.

How socially conscious.  How protective.

:lulz:

It's how bureaucrats ensure a large pool of underemployable serfs, which they largely used to scare the dwindling middle-class and keep the money flowing into the prison system and all the corporations that benefit from the prison system. It's also, largely, where the soldier class comes from; the impoverished but bright children who see the military as a way out of the cycle of crime, discrimination, and imprisonment.

Yeah, well, after "diversion", they can't even do THAT.

Stuck forever, a ruined life...But it makes RWHN feel all important, and isn't that what really matters?
Molon Lube

AFK

Quote from: Aloha Ackbar on August 12, 2013, 08:35:41 PM
Quote from: The End on August 12, 2013, 08:31:24 PM
Quote from: Aloha Ackbar on August 12, 2013, 08:28:33 PM
Quote from: The End on August 12, 2013, 08:19:04 PM
Quote from: Aloha Ackbar on August 12, 2013, 08:06:52 PM
Quote from: The End on August 12, 2013, 07:59:03 PM
All other qualifications being equal between two candidates, I absolutely would want the person without the history of driving impaired. 


I mean, think about it, you hire the guy, he comes to work impaired, kills another employee with the forklift.  You think the family might scream for your head if they knew you hired a guy with that known history?

You do understand what the word never means right?


Do you understand the meaning of the word risk?

You mean a word that you totally didn't use?


Sorry, my mistake for assuming everyone understands a fairly basic business concept.

Well, sure, but what if the person has never driven impaired either, like what Dok said? You're making a bit of an assumption there.


Again, it's about the risk.  It isn't that they are assuming they WILL operate impaired, it's that one would be more likely to do so.  So it's lowering the risk, the potential.  When you are responsible for multiple employees, and the success of the business, you have to make these choices.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: The End on August 12, 2013, 08:42:07 PM
Again, it's about the risk.  It isn't that they are assuming they WILL operate impaired, it's that one would be more likely to do so.  So it's lowering the risk, the potential.  When you are responsible for multiple employees, and the success of the business, you have to make these choices.

It's about a class of unemployable people, who spend their entire lives cycling in and out of the system.

Well done, RWHN.  They've been PROTECTED.
Molon Lube

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Aloha Ackbar on August 12, 2013, 08:37:00 PM
Also, I don't imagine most substance abusers won't wait until after work to get fucked up.

That depends on how you define "abuse". Do you drink at work? Most pot smokers don't use pot at work. However they are still defined under the law as "drug abusers" simply because it's illegal.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Doktor Howl

Quote from: The End on August 12, 2013, 08:42:07 PM
When you are responsible for multiple employees, and the success of the business, you have to make these choices.

:lulz:
Molon Lube