Miley Cyrus, Pedobear, and the Hollywood Spectacle

[Ben Shapiro]

So, a woman couldn't plan something like this all by herself?

I approve of what ever you're doing! I reserve to not get involved for I have no self control.

[Ben Shapiro]

The disconnect here seems to be that while you are exactly right about this episode epitomizing the grotesque theatrics of American pop culture, that seems to have flown over the heads of tens of millions of people completely. Here they are all wrapped up in whole industries and lifestyles that revolve around exactly this, but when it loses the thin veil of civilization and they are confronted directly with a naked representation of everything they stand for, they are immediately repulsed and disgusted.

I wonder whether this reaction says more about Miley Cyrus, or about the awkwardly disguised self-disgust at the core of most of our pop culture. Were they were really that offended by Cyrus' performance, or are they just angry that she gave them exactly what they asked for but without that veneer of cheap gloss that separates "art" from plain old blind animalistic hedonism? Maybe the whole thing was too accurate a reflection of what they worship, and they couldn't escape the blatant depiction of their soulless gods.

MAD FUCKING RESPECT!

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I must do more tests for science to see if all my posts have become invisible.

Did you already predict Miley as a Juggalette? Because, surely, had I seen such delicious prophecy, I would have uttered a squeal of delight and declared you a genius.

[Ben Shapiro]

MEANWHILE, IN FLYOVER COUNTRY...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2403248/Here-Comes-Honey-Boo-Boo-Mama-June-downs-shots-grinds-bachelorette-party.html

READ IT.  FUCKING READ IT.

DON'T MAKE ME WRITHE IN HORROR ALONE.

I WANNA GET COMMITTED

[Ben Shapiro]

<3 HER EVEN MORE!

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

BUMP for Nigeling purposes

[Don Coyote]

BUMP for Nigeling purposes

DAMN IT NIGEL I HAVE HALF OF BEOWULF TO FUCKING READ BY TUESDAY AND NOW MORE MILEY WHILE I LISTEN TO MILEY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

BUMP for Nigeling purposes

DAMN IT NIGEL I HAVE HALF OF BEOWULF TO FUCKING READ BY TUESDAY AND NOW MORE MILEY WHILE I LISTEN TO MILEY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ben Shapiro]

We got ourselves a hipster/for the children puritan.

The post I'm on is public.
Basically the Sinead one.

https://www.facebook.com/sleepsweepers/posts/10200669934819791?comment_id=5111587&offset=0&total_comments=110&notif_t=share_reply

Pretty much I'm using wrestling/carnival lingo to get them to understand.

[Ben Shapiro]

Yeah they might be related to RWHN.

[Ben Shapiro]

+1 For 15 year old Nigel Jr. for laughing at the question.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Oh, she thinks those people are unbelievably stupid. She is, granted, a whole lot smarter than most people, including me, but she literally just thinks they're beneath the effort of responding because they aren't capable of grasping complex social analysis anyway.

[Ben Shapiro]

The sad thing is. They'll never know I was the one vouching for them when it came to them hanging out with us. Teeheehee. Bear is a awful awful man.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

The sad thing is. They'll never know I was the one vouching for them when it came to them hanging out with us. Teeheehee. Bear is a awful awful man.

Y U SO MEEN, BAER? 

[AFK]

This one hits it out of the park, and I noted when I brought up this angle before, how Miley was objectifying others with her performance, that everyone here ignored it:

"it seems...that ann magnuson has similar things to say as sinead, just more stream of consciousness and less preachy. that "brilliant" commentary is also riddled with cliches. and that part about hashtags being a means of self prostitution is ridiculous compared to what your run in the mill pop star does to promote him/herself. Miley Cyrus is selling her product more than most in a shameless fashion. Shit, it isn't even original, it's booty shaking. It's a white girl miming a caricature of an increasingly mainstreamed minority subculture and packaging it as "edgy.""

"all i'm saying is that even if miley wanted that performance to go the way it did and those background dancers to be seen in the light they were seen in, it doesn't legitimize her actions or make her a "genius of a troll." Objectification doesn't mean "makes people feel bad about themselves." Objectification means, "causes the viewer to see the performer as an object and not a person." That definitely occurred, no matter what the performer's intentions were. I like to read both sinead's and ann magnuson's comments as statements against the institutionalized marginalization of women in a broader society. It's not about the individual, it's about the institution, and, like you said, it is through discourse that we learn from situations such as this. Discourse, I might add, that Sinead help foster."