Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

And both of them just coincidentally have sex scandals linked to the same Wall Street blackmailing pimp, which despite them both seemingly going for the jugular with sex scandals, they have conveniently avoided even mentioning.

Clinton and Trump serve the same masters.

Hillary Clinton has a sex scandal? Wow, I think I missed that one.

Click a few pages back to all the Epstein stuff.

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

Why does everyone powerful have hidden sex scandals?

Blackmail. Its SOP in DC, also in London apparently if you look at the Saville case.

[Vanadium Gryllz]

Why does everyone powerful have hidden sex scandals?

Blackmail. Its SOP in DC.

So it's just the powerful being blackmailed for it but really everyone has some weird shit they wouldn't want to get out?

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

Why does everyone powerful have hidden sex scandals?

Blackmail. Its SOP in DC.

So it's just the powerful being blackmailed for it but really everyone has some weird shit they wouldn't want to get out?

More like people are chosen for their ability to be blackmailed, as well as people opting in to blackmail to solidify deals and prove loyalty.

[Faust]

The operative word in my previous point is "proven".


Do you even know what QED means?

So you dispute that Obama and Bush have been nearly identical?

Bush started two protracted wars that served no purpose and taken on their opening goals, were both wars lost.
Apart from small conflicts and gradually unwinding his inherited wars, Obama managed to go 8 years without getting tangled up with another one, even when Syria was dangled right in front of him.

Its a small difference, and the advent of drone technology could possibly have shaped Bushes approach differently, nevertheless it doesn't change what happened for each of them

We are currently bombing 7 different countires(as opposed to Bushs 4), one of those being Syria, and none of these count as wars? Like, shit man, I guess were just going to accept that my definition of war and your definition of war are different and leave it at that.

Perhaps I should have said ground conflict. The key difference is that in this case they can pack up and leave at any time, which wasn't possible with the occupations of the other counties.

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

The operative word in my previous point is "proven".


Do you even know what QED means?

So you dispute that Obama and Bush have been nearly identical?

Bush started two protracted wars that served no purpose and taken on their opening goals, were both wars lost.
Apart from small conflicts and gradually unwinding his inherited wars, Obama managed to go 8 years without getting tangled up with another one, even when Syria was dangled right in front of him.

Its a small difference, and the advent of drone technology could possibly have shaped Bushes approach differently, nevertheless it doesn't change what happened for each of them

We are currently bombing 7 different countires(as opposed to Bushs 4), one of those being Syria, and none of these count as wars? Like, shit man, I guess were just going to accept that my definition of war and your definition of war are different and leave it at that.

Perhaps I should have said ground conflict. The key difference is that in this case they can pack up and leave at any time, which wasn't possible with the occupations of the other counties.

So he started more unwinnable, region destabalizing wars with a policy of actively targeting civilians but its all good because we arent occupying them? It doesnt seem like a huge difference to me. Which is likely my fault, I lack degrees, I dont use QED right, I am voting for Trump, the complexities of Obama's Drone wars are probably over my head.

[LMNO]

Unintentional jokes, on the other hand....

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

Unintentional jokes, on the other hand....

Nice meme there bud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji-cT58rgNc

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I am just sitting here watching smart people try to argue with crazy.

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

I am just sitting here watching smart people try to argue with crazy.

You see thats the fun part, crazy is winning! Pretty soon, more and more people you know are going to be crazy. Pretty soon this whole country is going to be run by crazy. Youd think a bunch of SMART PEOPLE^tm like yourselves would have had the foresight to see this coming and used those smarts to formulate a plan. Instead youre all voting for Clinton and hoping it just goes away. It wont.

BTW. Trump isnt a Fascist, Fascists are what come AFTER Trump.

[Faust]

The operative word in my previous point is "proven".


Do you even know what QED means?

So you dispute that Obama and Bush have been nearly identical?

Bush started two protracted wars that served no purpose and taken on their opening goals, were both wars lost.
Apart from small conflicts and gradually unwinding his inherited wars, Obama managed to go 8 years without getting tangled up with another one, even when Syria was dangled right in front of him.

Its a small difference, and the advent of drone technology could possibly have shaped Bushes approach differently, nevertheless it doesn't change what happened for each of them

We are currently bombing 7 different countires(as opposed to Bushs 4), one of those being Syria, and none of these count as wars? Like, shit man, I guess were just going to accept that my definition of war and your definition of war are different and leave it at that.

Perhaps I should have said ground conflict. The key difference is that in this case they can pack up and leave at any time, which wasn't possible with the occupations of the other counties.

So he started more unwinnable, region destabalizing wars with a policy of actively targeting civilians but its all good because we arent occupying them? It doesnt seem like a huge difference to me. Which is likely my fault, I lack degrees, I dont use QED right, I am voting for Trump, the complexities of Obama's Drone wars are probably over my head.

You asked for the differences between bush and Obama, I don't care who you are voting for in this election, they are both terrible, regardless of any of the conspiracy theory stuff.

Targetting civilians is reprehensible, beyond measure, but that just seems to be the norm for US foreign policy, it's not acceptable in any way shape or form, but it seems to be the-best-you-get.

The creation of IS and the destabilisation of those regions started long before Obama. He's not blameless, I hold him and Clinton as secretary of state accountable for turning Libya into a third world country, and I hold Bush accountable for an entrenched mess that devoured Afghanistan and Iraq and spread to Syria. Taken objectively Obama was probably the least worst option. If you want better then that you need reform, not a candidate.

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

Which is why we are currently taking over the Republican party.

[Faust]

Ok, the best place the republican party could be right now, is in opposition, so I hope you and they are doing their best to lose the election.

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

Ok, the best place the republican party could be right now, is in opposition, so I hope you and they are doing their best to lose the election.

You dont understand. The battle is not over until the streets run red with cuckservative blood.

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

The creation of IS and the destabilisation of those regions started long before Obama.

Yeah, it's mostly the Bush administration's fault!