A challenge for all Bush-Haters

[Chaplin_Sinatra_Fonzarell]

If that was true, Hannibal Lector would be a zombie.

[EraPassing]

::Steals Rog's head from Era::

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMNNNnnnnnnumy!

*kills Ythactha leisurely, with much splashing of blood and vitals*

[LMNO]

Maybe they're not all talking shit about "America". Maybe some of them are questioning policies they believe are unfair and have a good reason to do so. Maybe they're patriots who don't equate government with country. Maybe they're foreigners who of course would want to live here (why wouldn't they? Our way is the only way worth living after all.) Maybe they're messing with people such as yourself.

Good point, Hosh-- uh, Goldie.  This is a pitfall many people get sucked into.  The Government is not static, and is (nominally, at least) subject to change by the people.  When many people trash the US, they are trashing policies imposed by the government, not the country.  The implication of "This country is great, I don't see why you radicals talk shit about America" is that once the current administration (whoever it might be) does something, it should immediately be accepted, not questioned, and not protested.  If the US were a fascist and/or totalitarian state (insert cynical joke), then yeah, there would be no reason to complain, because other than violent revolution or creeping education, nothing could be changed. But in a Democracy (or a Republic), such change can be effected.

Simply put, "I hate America" seems to be shorthand for "many of the the current policies and laws enforced by this administration run counter to my idea of how a country should be run."  It's a pretty good country, underneath the thick layer of bullshit modern politics spreads around.  I just can't stand the smell.

[/o\]

Can i have some freedom fries with that?

[LMNO]

Only if you spend 20 minutes Freedom kissing me.

[Cain]

Do you have Freedom Wine in America too?

[LMNO]

Why yes!  It comes in it's own box, as well!




We sell no wine that isn't absolute crap.

[Wishfarple]

Come now, LMNO.  There's no need to insult the wine like that.  Drunk Jesus loves all his booze-children equally, even the cheap ones that are only good for sucking down really fast until you can't taste them anymore.  

It really does make me sad when people say bad things about alcohol.  I wonder if this is a sign of something?

[LMNO]

Now hold on there.  Much like barnyard animals, some alcohol is more equal than others.


Right, Snowball?

[Cain]

Does America do any wine? I never knew.  And is is better than the beer?

[LMNO]

Actually, some of the vinyards in California are actually pretty good.  As good as many spanish wines, and some French & italian wines.  And believe it or not, I've found some east coast wines that actually can pull off some interesting whites.

If you're really interested, I can post some links.

[Cain]

Why not?  There is a rather good winestore in town, they may have a few.  Go on then.

[LMNO]

Well, Bonny Doon is my current favorite, and they have some very good wines.

I used to be big into Ravenswood, but they have gone slightly commercial recently, although I still love their logo ad motto.  So I'm a sucker for packaging.  Shoot me.

Ridge is usually over my head, price-wise, but when I can afford it, I get it.

For the east coast, it's pretty small, but Westport Rivers has a surprisingly good sparkling wine, and an excellent Pinot Blanc.



LMNO
-Amatuer Wine Snob

[Cain]

Thanks, I'll be sure to see if they have any of them in stock.

[gnimbley]

Gets in a time machine and goes back to before Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:38
am and says "I agree with everything Hoshiko is going to say in her post
of Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:38 am before I even know what she is going to
say." Bows.